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Either get better shoes from a professional assessment by a physio (for feet) or try walking barefoot for a few months. Chances are you muscles are cramped because they are 'too short', that is, never fully relaxed to actual ground level, because your shoes prevent your foot muscles from fully adjusting to that level.
I have walked on bad shoes for years, and only after getting in-lay soles and walking barefoot did cramps in my feet and lower legs go away. That's been three years ago now, so don't expect instant changes. The major cramps in my feet due to walking a lot without the in-lays went away immediately though. So that was money well spent.


As for cut or bulk ( broscience, here we go! ): since you're after the aesthetic aspect and not 'git gud' of lifting, I would say cut. Just exercise to maintain the muscle mass so you only drop fat (if you don't exercise, you will lose lean mass too) and get to the beach body you want for the season. You can always bulk later, and you can even build some muscle on a lower calorie diet, it's just going to take much more effort and time. Just making sure you get the sufficient amount of protein (about 100 grams max per day can be converted into muscle, so much more than that isn't really necessary if you get that dose every day) during the cut, and you should be fine. Hell, you can even mix in 'bulk days' in with a general cut. Though I think most here would consider that cheat days. Ultimately it's up to you and your specific body needs / data, of course.

Broscience-man out.


edit: btw, I found a fitness book from 1986 as it's just the same crap as any modern fitness book published today. Like, disturbingly so. This really is an evergreen market, isn't it?
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
Could you explain a little about your progress?

How long have you been doing it?

I've been doing it since march. It's on and off for me, many times I fail to keep it up because it's pretty tough. Even so, it works well when I do it right so my net losses are pretty good. I eat the proper macro balance recommended by https://healthyeater.com/flexible-dieting-calculator for losing with high protein because I am still lifting as I lose. I usually eat between 3-8PM each day. One meal at the start of my feeding period, and one meal at the end. That's it!
 
I'm just a lurker here but wanted to thank you guys for helping me out without even knowing it.

With all the information in this topic I learned about calories, macros, best workouts, etc. Things that I had no idea I needed... For years I have been just working out so that I could eat whatever I wanted. Now I eat what I need to workout and just be as healthy as I can.

Just keep doing what you do. I's sure there are many others like me that are lurking and continuously learning from you. Thanks.

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Fantastic. The difference is huge. I can't wait to see what else you can do a year from now.
 
I've been doing it since march. It's on and off for me, many times I fail to keep it up because it's pretty tough. Even so, it works well when I do it right so my net losses are pretty good. I eat the proper macro balance recommended by https://healthyeater.com/flexible-dieting-calculator for losing with high protein because I am still lifting as I lose. I usually eat between 3-8PM each day. One meal at the start of my feeding period, and one meal at the end. That's it!

Thank you. I will check out the link.

Yes. It's more of a habit these days.

I just skip breakfast. Still gotta watch calories.

I find 24 hour fasts the most effective in fat burning. Two 24 hour fasts once a week and you will be shredding fat.

Sorry to be ignorant, what does the 24 hour fast entail? Just water? How does that work if you're exercising also? I'm trying to picture a weekly schedule.
 

entremet

Member
Thank you. I will check out the link.



Sorry to be ignorant, what does the 24 hour fast entail? Just water? How does that work if you're exercising also? I'm trying to picture a weekly schedule.

Only drink water for 24 hours.

It's easier than it sounds.

Here's how it looks. Eat breakfast and lunch. Don't eat dinner. Sleep. Wake up to a new day. Skip breakfast and lunch. Eat dinner to break your fast (breakfast. get it lol)

You've fasted for 24 hours.

You won't collapse or die. We would have never survived as a species if we had to eat three square meals to survive.

However, that's an advanced technique. I'd start with 16 hour fasts, followed with 8 hour eating window if you've never done it.

Cooter is big into fasting. I think he does 16 hour fasts.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
I've been fasting for 16-20 hours recently, without even realizing it because of shift work. I will have my last meal at 7-8pm and won't eat again til 1-3pm the next day, I do drink fluids though. It hasn't affected my weight or my strength yet.
 
On the subject of... fast whilst injured or not? I had read that it's supposed to help with the healing process, but not entirely convinced.
 

Tater Tot

"My God... it's full of Starch!"
Only drink water for 24 hours.

It's easier than it sounds.

Here's how it looks. Eat breakfast and lunch. Don't eat dinner. Sleep. Wake up to a new day. Skip breakfast and lunch. Eat dinner to break your fast (breakfast. get it lol)

You've fasted for 24 hours.

You won't collapse or die. We would have never survived as a species if we had to eat three square meals to survive.

However, that's an advanced technique. I'd start with 16 hour fasts, followed with 8 hour eating window if you've never done it.

Cooter is big into fasting. I think he does 16 hour fasts.

For example you eat 2k calories in a day.

ON your 24 hr fasts how do you divide the calories?

Example you eat breakfast and lunch on tuesday then fast until wednesday night.

On wednesday night do you eat all 2k calories for dinner?

But if you are just breaking up your meals to say 666.66 cal per meal (2000/3)

and only have one meal at the end of you 24 hr fast ( wednesday night for 666.66 cal)

then it just sounds like you are doing the eat stop eat diet.
 
I'm just a lurker here but wanted to thank you guys for helping me out without even knowing it.

With all the information in this topic I learned about calories, macros, best workouts, etc. Things that I had no idea I needed... For years I have been just working out so that I could eat whatever I wanted. Now I eat what I need to workout and just be as healthy as I can.

Just keep doing what you do. I's sure there are many others like me that are lurking and continuously learning from you. Thanks.

AcEI0Bv.jpg

Nice transformation. You should share your experience and your method (or personal implementation), you'll probably inspire a few people.

Some weird fasting talk here right now. With all the overcomplication going on, some people may be legitimately better off not fasting lol.
 

entremet

Member
For example you eat 2k calories in a day.

ON your 24 hr fasts how do you divide the calories?

Example you eat breakfast and lunch on tuesday then fast until wednesday night.

On wednesday night do you eat all 2k calories for dinner?

But if you are just breaking up your meals to say 666.66 cal per meal (2000/3)

and only have one meal at the end of you 24 hr fast ( wednesday night for 666.66 cal)

then it just sounds like you are doing the eat stop eat diet.

No. I don't divide the calories.

This is if I want to get very lean. I just eat a slightly bigger meal when I break my fast.

I only do one 24 fast per week. But I do that more for "other" reasons than body composition.

I really don't need to count calories for 24 hour fasts since the average is still very low for that day.

I don't go full on cheat meal, though.
 

mdsfx

Member
Some weird fasting talk here right now. With all the overcomplication going on, some people may be legitimately better off not fasting lol.
Not sure what you mean. Many people fast without even considering it due to busy schedules. Is not uncommon. However, I don't think fasting should take priority over counting calories, which I consider to be most important, followed by a basic awareness of macros.
 

entremet

Member
Nice transformation. You should share your experience and your method (or personal implementation), you'll probably inspire a few people.

Some weird fasting talk here right now. With all the overcomplication going on, some people may be legitimately better off not fasting lol.

Someone literally asked the question about it lol.

It wasn't brought up randomly.

On the subject of... fast whilst injured or not? I had read that it's supposed to help with the healing process, but not entirely convinced.

I've heard it too. Fasting isn't a new thing. It's been a medical therapy for hundreds of years.

Your body naturally loses appetite when sick. Some believe this is mechanism at play.

I don't know if this is the case with orthopedic injuries.
 
Not sure what you mean. Many people fast without even considering it due to busy schedules. Is not uncommon. However, I don't think fasting should take priority over counting calories, which I consider to be most important, followed by a basic awareness of macros.

I mean, look at the line of questioning. What does a 24 hour fast entail? Do you eat all your calories after the fast or just part of your calories? etc etc.

Don't get me wrong, fasting is great. I still do it daily. Except at this point it's just a fancy word for "not eating." I guess what I'd be saying is that, the whole point of it is to not think about food. By focusing on the act of fasting is basically to think about the fact that you're not shoving something in your mouth which is contrary to the point of doing so. The most basic guide to (non-religious) fasting is to have near zero calorie intake for a minimum of 12 hours of the day. Anything more than that starts to approach the realm of overcomplication for very little benefit.
 
Just added some hack squats to my routine on leg day. Not too bad. Never done them before but I feel like it loads my hams some more over my quads unless I'm doing them wrong.

I do them pretty much like deads except I sit into the pull just a tad more and drag the bar up straight and keep my shoulders back and spine neutral.

Not a replacement lift but a supplement accessory for sure. I'll start legs with a couple light sets of extensions and empty bar squats to get warmed up, hit 4 sets of heavy squats then 3 sets of higher rep hacks, then move on to the rest of my routine.

Not bad. Feels a lot different but it also feels fairly comfortable. I do think being tall has an advantage here as I sit dead parallel when setting up for the hack as I've seen these done but shorter folks have a shorter ROM. I don't think it feels as good as going deep, but I shoot up and slowly lower the weight down controlled. A good burner and follow up right after traditional squats. Will def wind up keeping these as an accessory.
 

sphinx

the piano man
gaf, what are your go-to exercises for deltoids??

I think that's the part of my body that has changed the least all this time, I'd wish for them to pop out, samus-aran style but that just hasn't happened.

what exercises are my best bet to make them increase in size and pop out?

straight lateral raise perhaps?
 

entremet

Member
gaf, what are your go-to exercises for deltoids??

I think that's the part of my body that has changed the least all this time, I'd wish for them to pop out, samus-aran style but that just hasn't happened.

what exercises are my best bet to make them increase in size and pop out?

straight lateral raise perhaps?

OHP, Incline Bench, Face Pulls.

Just be aware delts have a huge genetic component to them. Sometimes you're blessed, sometimes you're not.

Delts also have among most concentrated androgen receptors of muscle tissues. A common PED use "tell" is massive 3D delts popping up early in training. They really take a long time to develop naturally. And again, genetics still play a huge role.
 
I'm just a lurker here but wanted to thank you guys for helping me out without even knowing it.

With all the information in this topic I learned about calories, macros, best workouts, etc. Things that I had no idea I needed... For years I have been just working out so that I could eat whatever I wanted. Now I eat what I need to workout and just be as healthy as I can.

Just keep doing what you do. I's sure there are many others like me that are lurking and continuously learning from you. Thanks.

AcEI0Bv.jpg

nice. when you get fit you get an even tan in the process.
 
gaf, what are your go-to exercises for deltoids??

I think that's the part of my body that has changed the least all this time, I'd wish for them to pop out, samus-aran style but that just hasn't happened.

what exercises are my best bet to make them increase in size and pop out?

straight lateral raise perhaps?
I like OHP, Arnold Press, Lateral Raises. I will frequently use the one arm super heavy lateral while holding on to something with my other arm for stability for low rep work.

Sitting down or kneeling for lateral raises changes the game, too.
 
Anyone have any luck with intermittent fasting?

Heck yes. I have tried the same diet on and off intermittent fasting and I lose weight significantly faster when fasting and I even come out of it with more energy somehow. Cuz science.

For example, I have been eating a primarily plant based diet (high protein, high carb, low fat) and working out moderately and I have lost over 20lbs in the last month. I'm frequently in shock when I look at myself in the mirror. I'm somehow gaining muscle and strength, yet losing a lot of weight.

Definitely give it a go for a couple weeks and see how you like it after being adjusted.
 

malfcn

Member
So I come to Fitness GAF looking for help.

I have no real routine of anything, but play hockey.
For over 15 years I have been playing as goalie, with heavy use of butterfly techniques to stop the puck.

My hips hate me now. I've heard other goalies talk about impingement.
For those that don't know, the saving technique relies on dropping down with your knees close together and flaring out your feet to create a wide surface for blocking.

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I am 33 now, and play once a week. For the rest of a day, and the next day or two I have severe pain and difficulty walking. The rest of the week the pain lingers. And as soon as next week rolls around and I get into a stance I already hurt.

Anyone familiar with this problem? Are there good stretches, work out or routine that would help? I would like to continue playing.
 
Anyone have any suggestions on zero/low carb snacks? I don't really have access to a fridge so anything that needs to stay cold is kinda out.

thx
 

mdsfx

Member
Anyone have any suggestions on zero/low carb snacks? I don't really have access to a fridge so anything that needs to stay cold is kinda out.

thx
No fridge makes it a lot harder. Beef jerky, tuna, nuts, shakes, quest bars...? Peanut butter maybe depending on what qualifies as low carb to you.
 

studyguy

Member
GAF, what do you think of sparkling water? I speak of San Pellegrino, Perrier, and the sort. Natural flavor, nothing added.

I think water is sorta shit. I drink tons of it, but water is boring, at least cold carbonated water gives me the tingles. I like it a lot.
 

NIN90

Member
Anyone have any suggestions on zero/low carb snacks? I don't really have access to a fridge so anything that needs to stay cold is kinda out.

thx

You can probably buy pre-boiled eggs somewhere. Those are amaze and you don't need to cool them.


Stupid question:

Chewing gum probably doesn't count as far as intermittent fasting goes, right? Because I'm chewing on one pretty much all day when I'm out and about.
Black coffee too.
 

mdsfx

Member
I had some amazing tasting cucumbers in a Mexican restaurant in the US. No idea what was on them (I'm thinking chilli and lime), but they were fucking delicious.
My family often uses diced cucumber with lime, cilantro, and onion. It's such a simple but amazing combination.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
My daughter continues her assault on the deadlift. Today she got 200x3 way too easy and then proceeded to get 205x3 even easier. I think she might have 235 or even 240 right now if she attempted it.
 

blackflag

Member
gaf, what are your go-to exercises for deltoids??

I think that's the part of my body that has changed the least all this time, I'd wish for them to pop out, samus-aran style but that just hasn't happened.

what exercises are my best bet to make them increase in size and pop out?

straight lateral raise perhaps?

Standing OHP
Seated DB press
dumbell laterals
cable laterals
face pulls
bent over DB delt rows

I think big delts have a lot to do with genetics though. It's not as bad as calves but similar.
 

mdsfx

Member
My daughter continues her assault on the deadlift. Today she got 200x3 way too easy and then proceeded to get 205x3 even easier. I think she might have 235 or even 240 right now if she attempted it.
That's it guys. I'm out. It's been fun.

*walks away hanging head in shame, never to lift again*
 
Decided to try some post-injury dragon flags.

Results were decent. I already did a whole set of core workouts before the flags. At least, my back felt fine.

Walking - 3 "reps"
https://youtu.be/PWlzwRG8aTA

Stalled
https://youtu.be/XxP5TAHGyX4
Nice, dude!

My daughter continues her assault on the deadlift. Today she got 200x3 way too easy and then proceeded to get 205x3 even easier. I think she might have 235 or even 240 right now if she attempted it.
Stronger than 99% of adult men. Nicely done!
 

Slamo

Member
Nice transformation. You should share your experience and your method (or personal implementation), you'll probably inspire a few people.

Some weird fasting talk here right now. With all the overcomplication going on, some people may be legitimately better off not fasting lol.

Thanks.

That's not for me. I knew from the start that any kind of diet was not gonna work. I had to change my eating habits and dieting would just pause them. If my mind was set on something permanent, I would be able to change. Dieting would just be something that I would do for a few months and then everything would be the same.

I simply controlled the amount of food that I ate. I figured out my TDEE installed my fitness pal, bought a kitchen scale and worked from there. I run practically everything through MFP. During the firsy few weeks I had to adjust my TDEE but from there it was pretty simple. Just started eating less 500 cal per day and always had one cheat meal per week where I ate around my TDEE (this was essential for my sanity...).
I basically eat everything if it fits my macros/calories for the day.
Right now I'm eating at maintenance and will start eating around 200 over my limit.

I always worked out but after I got married in 2008 things started to change. I had my first son the next year (I'm a 40 year old father of 3 now) and all the "free" time was gone. On top of that I have a job where I basically sit all day.
For the past years I did beachbody workouts (P90x, Focus25, 21 Day Fix, etc.), which I really enjoyed but everything just changed once I changed my eating habits. It's really true that your results are made in the kitchen.
Right now and for the past 8 weeks (2 weeks off because of my summer vacations and another week off for a back injury) I've been doing Reddit's PPL and I'm really enjoying it (my lifts suck but hey I'm just trying to be healthy).

TLDR: I ate everything but smaller quantities and worked out 6 days/week.

Fantastic. The difference is huge. I can't wait to see what else you can do a year from now.

Thanks. I will update in the future.

nice. when you get fit you get an even tan in the process.

I didn't even notice it lol
 
At what point should I put weights on my back when planking? I managed a 3:30 min plank (and two 2:00min sets afterwards) yesterday and wonder if I'm better off putting weights on my back. I'm really liking my progress but planking for 3 mins is a little dull. I prefer short but intense workout.

Also, how do I go about putting weights on my back when I'm alone?
 
At what point should I put weights on my back when planking? I managed a 3:30 min plank (and two 2:00min sets afterwards) yesterday and wonder if I'm better off putting weights on my back. I'm really liking my progress but planking for 3 mins is a little dull. I prefer short but intense workout.

Also, how do I go about putting weights on my back when I'm alone?
When you feel it's necessary.

I would take a plate and hold it against my back while standing or kneeling upright, then bend over.
 

ldcommando

Banned
At what point should I put weights on my back when planking? I managed a 3:30 min plank (and two 2:00min sets afterwards) yesterday and wonder if I'm better off putting weights on my back. I'm really liking my progress but planking for 3 mins is a little dull. I prefer short but intense workout.

Also, how do I go about putting weights on my back when I'm alone?

Let me hook you up, friend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOBgnZuFvQs
 

Szu

Member
At what point should I put weights on my back when planking? I managed a 3:30 min plank (and two 2:00min sets afterwards) yesterday and wonder if I'm better off putting weights on my back. I'm really liking my progress but planking for 3 mins is a little dull. I prefer short but intense workout.

Also, how do I go about putting weights on my back when I'm alone?

Dragon Flags? :)
 
Fitgaf! I hit a major milestone today - benched 100lbs 3x5, which puts me squarely in the 'intermediate' category for my weight as a girl. When I eventually hit 135lbs I think everyone in the whole world will hear my victory screaming.

Leangains has been working quite well - have lost almost 4lbs in the last month but my strength has only been increasing!
 
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