Lil'DigiOp
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Don't know how it makes a difference when Manny could barely land a punch on him. He pretty much doped up for nothing.
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Floyd Mayweather used WADA-banned IV before Manny Pacquiao fight
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Don't know how it makes a difference when Manny could barely land a punch on him. He pretty much doped up for nothing.
jmaine_ph
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Manny was denied due to a paper work mishap from him and his camp. But I agree I'm always up for a discussion just stating my opinions.
DoktorEvil
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It was fairly common for pro athletes to use injections of vitamins and nutrients instead of ingestion. It's immediate compared to waiting.
But, because of steroids and PEDs making national headlines, using IVs are now a near universal no-no.
The Faceless Master
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so... REMATCH?
Please no. Just when Boxing is getting good again, let's not drag it back down with these two knuckle heads
Rehydration through IV is extremely common in boxing. I had no idea that there were rules against it.
Boxers frequently put on 10-20 pounds in the 24 hours from the weigh in to the actual fight and IV's are the best/safest way to do this. This is the first reference I've ever seen to the practice being discouraged or the notion that it could be used for masking PEDs.
Boxers frequently put on 10-20 pounds in the 24 hours from the weigh in to the actual fight and IV's are the best/safest way to do this. This is the first reference I've ever seen to the practice being discouraged or the notion that it could be used for masking PEDs.
I don't want to see a rematch, but the guy who pushed this fight back until Manny was no longer in his prime because suspicion of alleged drug use goes and does this? How stupid is this guy? Don't answer. I think we all know. He of all people should know the rules as he was so quick to enforce them on his opponent.
Stormhammer
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i cant wait to watch first take this morning
PHOENIXZERO
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Vitamin injections/IVs are a lot more effective than taking a pill.
Off-Kilter
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Stormhammer
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oh boy here we go,
stephen a smith's face lolol
stephen a smith's face lolol
Yeah I would have thought IVs for dehydration were legal.
DonasaurusRex
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ooooOOOOOH he took saline solution! I can't even...
Mammoth Jones
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After all the years he gave Paq shit about drug testing I'm not giving that hypocrite any benefit of the doubt.
Beelzebufo
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Um no. Why would he need to speed up the process in an illegal way that's also convinuently good for PED?
what he's doing is trying to dilute his urine so that there is no detectable levels of illegal substances being excreted in his urine.. Vitamin levels are checked to see if the person is diluting their urine to hide illegal substances. this is why some dopers will take HUGE amounts of vitamins, so that their vitamin levels appear normal once diluted to shit. Vitamin levels are the only way to check if the user is trying to cheat a drug test by diluting
DoktorEvil
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It's banned in the UFC. BJ Penn supported the decision.
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/b-j-penn-supports-ufcs-iv-rehydration-ban-says-ivs-are-for-wimps
When you go into partnership with the world anti doping agency, its bound to happen .
jmaine_ph
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Many athletes do it to speed up rehydration
DudeWithNoName
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You're a Patriots fan I bet.
CassidyIzABeast
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So we're dropping the he just ran the whole time excuse and running with juice being the reason Manny lost?
dont worry Manny is doping as well
Beelzebufo
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But you could also just drink water earlier... And not do the illegal and totally shady thing.
Ganzlinger
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Pac Man the best confirmed.
It is specifically done in boxing after weigh-ins. Boxers cut 10-20 pounds of water for the weigh-in and then put it back in the next 24 hours before the fight.
Let's be real, Pacquiao is probably the last person that ought to be taken the moral high ground here.
The Hermit
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Oh snap
Looks like it lol.
John Dunbar
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frankly, i'm for anything that could strip mayweather the win for that bullshit match.
It's not banned yet, still another month until it'll be enforced.
_illmatic_
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Love it!
However I did find a nice article about the USADA testing methods here: http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada?_ga=1.177002604.873139457.1433772212
Goes in depth about the methods between the agencies, the contracts, etc. Of course there is a shadow cast on the method, however it's just that, unless he truly tested positive for a PED or was using banned substances.
Subpar Spatula
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Probably thought it was something else. This stuff happens when you can't read.
hydragonwarrior
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y didnt pac use dempsey roll
WesternHeretic
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So realistically what does this mean? Is it just a slap on the wrist or serious shit can go down?
Discotheque
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Yep, while I hope mayweather gets fined for this I still doubt it affected the fight much
Manny just couldn't hack it
_illmatic_
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Hard to say really. Was it illegal? Yes, was it a PED or banned substance found? No. Also will the reasoning behind the IV be a legit excuse that just isn't public knowledge at the moment? Personally I think it'll just be a slap on wrist fine and going forward USADA will not be able to give waivers within the state.
Mayweather too smart to use PEDs. When he fights dirty it's in the ring and often under the nose of the referee. It's little things like body shots to the hips, leaning on the necks of ducking opponents, covering their faces with the palm of his gloves and, the most notorious examples, striking opponents when they're looking to the referee (Gatti) or are dealing with some other distraction (Ortiz) - all under the excuse of "protect yourself at all times." It's all within the accepted degree of dirt in boxing and doesn't classify as cheating, but it's low. Very few boxers are 100% clean fighters.
If this goes viral then you can bet your house on it, lol.
Slap on the wrist.
Mayweather's camp can reasonably plead ignorance I would think and the fallout simply wouldn't be worth it over such a non issue. The world may hate Mayweather but boxing loves him.
If this goes viral then you can bet your house on it, lol.
Slap on the wrist.
Mayweather's camp can reasonably plead ignorance I would think and the fallout simply wouldn't be worth it over such a non issue. The world may hate Mayweather but boxing loves him.
Ya, it's not exactly the same. The point is it allows the stuff to take effect instantly versus having to wait for digestion. The covering up illegal PED thing is a bit worrying though, but I'd just keep an eye on the guy. You can't just stop taking PEDs without any effects, so if he is doping it'll be easy to discover.
NinjaMouse
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They can potentially allow you to mask the actual use of PEDs, is the real reason for concern. Between that, and the fact that they can actually design a "boutique" PED just for you that has an undetectable (or nearly undetectable) profile.
I'm not in for a rematch, though. I was scammed out of my $100 from both sides. I'll just spend my time hoping for more Broner losses at this rate. The MayPac ship has sailed.
_illmatic_
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Seems like you'll get your money's worth with more Broner losses lmao
NinjaMouse
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I'm ok with that...after seeing his antics leading up to the Porter match and still losing, it made my day. That guy's attitude really rubs me the wrong way.
injection of vitamins is considered doping. that's hilarius.
Byakuya769
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Saline is a new form of HGH, right?
I don't know, I can't tell with some of the overblown reactions in here.
I don't know, I can't tell with some of the overblown reactions in here.
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