• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Floyd Mayweather used WADA-banned IV before Manny Pacquiao fight

Status
Not open for further replies.

Omega

Banned
I mean that's what happens when you've never seen Floyd fight before.

or when you pretend he isn't as good as he is.

People complaining about Floyd fights are the same people who complain about hadouken spamming in Street Fighter, or people that block too much.

I can't stand the guy but everyone has these delusions that Bum #324 is gonna be the guy to finally beat Floyd because reasons.
 

ApharmdX

Banned
This is common in the UFC (though recently banned) for rehydration. It's not a major deal, although obviously if it was against the rules of the commission that Mayweather fought under, he should not have done it.

As far as banned substances like steroids/HGH, this doesn't go towards that one way or another. And as far as the outcome of the fight, Mayweather made Pacman look stupid using boxing skills, not by being faster or stronger. There's so much bitterness about PBF winning that fight. I don't understand it.
 
'doping' with salt water and vitamins?

Seems dumb, why wouldn't you want the athletes to be hydrated?
so they dont hide peds, he took it not only at home(away from the medical field), but he also took enough to clear his system. thats the worrying part
 

TheStruggler

Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
'doping' with salt water and vitamins?

Seems dumb, why wouldn't you want the athletes to be hydrated?

the way of doing it is banned, however it states in the article that doing it this particular way with the amount of saline and vitmains could be because it is hiding other substances
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
Who the fuck shoots up vitamins and salene lol doesn't he feel a little weird doing that? It would feel like steroids even if it wasnt
Same type of person who would sit in a cry chamber to recover faster.


This is making a mountain out of a molehill
 
"Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed."

So not a banned substance but a banned format of how it was taken.

Don't think this is a big deal.


The act itself isnt that big a deal, people are making a stink becaudr mayweather didnt let pacquiao get a anti inflammatory injection in his shoulder b4 thw fight. Similar procedure but mayweather got an exemption and pac didnt... Either way maywather would have won lol
 

pulsemyne

Member
The fact that he did something dodgy before a fight with a fighter he repeatedly accused to using PED's is hilarious. Floyd walks around pretty much at the weight he fights at so why would be need to rehydrate with an IV before a fight? Unless your doing something naughty.
 
"Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed."

So not a banned substance but a banned format of how it was taken.

Don't think this is a big deal.

He was re-hydrating from dropping weight. There's a reason they only allow so much IV.
 
The fact that he did something dodgy before a fight with a fighter he repeatedly accused to using PED's is hilarious. Floyd walks around pretty much at the weight he fights at so why would be need to rehydrate with an IV before a fight? Unless your doing something naughty.

Most deff, however for all the evidence that we do have it's just a "if" at this point. Did he do something that is WADA Banned? Yes. Could it be used to mask something else in his system? Yes. But that's all we have to go off. No HGH/PEDS, no banned substance.
 
Manny been using illegal voodoo on fight night for all his fights. Need to fine him.

IdioticPleasingAoudad.gif
 
Why would they take a old news story (first reported May 22, 2015) and re-report it as new?

"Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions."


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...390.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
 
Why would they take a old news story (first reported May 22, 2015) and re-report it as new?

"Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions."


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...390.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

Damn, I guess it's the same as when all those bloggers and people came out of the woodwork to talk about his domestic violence cases that happen about 5 years ago and served time for.
 

Alexlf

Member
Why would they take a old news story (first reported May 22, 2015) and re-report it as new?

"Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions."


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...390.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

Welp, there it is. Crazy how far people will stretch the truth for a story.
 
Damn, I guess it's the same as when all those bloggers and people came out of the woodwork to talk about his domestic violence cases that happen about 5 years ago and served time for.

God forbid people bring up the fact that he's an unrepentant serial beater of women and that boxing at large and all of his fans ignore it because they don't want their fun televised sport to go away.

But yeah if boxing can overlook that, they'll overlook this.
 

see5harp

Member
I don't care how many steroids these assholes took. It wouldn't have made that an entertaining fight. Manny had no sort of answer. At least go down on your sword homie. Floyd will always have an asterisk because of the style of his fights. Boring as fuck.
 
Why would they take a old news story (first reported May 22, 2015) and re-report it as new?

"Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions."


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...390.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

Obvious attempt by boxing commission to taint Mayweather being undefeated is obvious.
 

Oxirane

Member
So can USADA grant these exemptions (the retroactive ones in particular)? Or do they have to present the findings to the relevant sporting commission to make the judgement?
 

Leunam

Member
I don't care how many steroids these assholes took. It wouldn't have made that an entertaining fight. Manny had no sort of answer. At least go down on your sword homie. Floyd will always have an asterisk because of the style of his fights. Boring as fuck.

This is the greatest thing ever, holy crap.
 
This doesn't even get to the crux of the issue presented in the article.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada

The more troubling issue is USADA's failure to report testing results in a timely fashion (if at all) to the state governing body, but instead to the promoter that has contracted them, and also enabling the promoter to begin and end the drug testing window as they see fit.

What if Floyd couldn't read the rules? How can we hold him responsible when the American education system has failed him?
 

Brashnir

Member
No banned substances in the IV. Minor.

The reason IVs are banned is that in combat sports with weight classes, cutting weight prior to weigh-in is incredibly draining. Using an IV between weigh-in and the actual fight is an absolutely massive advantage, probably bigger than taking steroids for the entire run-up to the fight.
 
The reason IVs are banned is that in combat sports with weight classes, cutting weight prior to weigh-in is incredibly draining. Using an IV between weigh-in and the actual fight is an absolutely massive advantage, probably bigger than taking steroids for the entire run-up to the fight.

Bigger than taking steroids? Nah, the IVs aren't banned it's the amount that he took with the IVs within a 6 hour time frame is prohibited.
 

Heel

Member
The reason IVs are banned is that in combat sports with weight classes, cutting weight prior to weigh-in is incredibly draining. Using an IV between weigh-in and the actual fight is an absolutely massive advantage, probably bigger than taking steroids for the entire run-up to the fight.

That's not true at all.

IVs are banned by WADA because of the risk of being used to mask blood doping, not rehydration.
 
First of all - this is an old story and came up weeks after the fight. Weird that it's resurfacing and making the rounds again now. From my understanding, IV rehydration is allowed by NSAC but by WADA (USADA goes by WADA guidelines). It's also my understanding that Floyd got this cleared by NSAC on the day of the weigh ins, but not with USADA. He received them after the fight from what I have read. The USADA cleared him retroactively. Not sure on what grounds he was granted the exemption honestly. But the whole thing seems pretty benign, just handled weirdly by the USADA.
 
The reason IVs are banned is that in combat sports with weight classes, cutting weight prior to weigh-in is incredibly draining. Using an IV between weigh-in and the actual fight is an absolutely massive advantage, probably bigger than taking steroids for the entire run-up to the fight.

Do you have citations for IV usage to rehydrate being more advantageous than PED usage?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom