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Football Thread 13/14 |OT17| I'm Spartacus
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The_Hitcher89
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I'd take the pair in a heartbeat, although you lot clearly overvalue Khedira if that rejection of £30m is anything to go by.
Vivalaraza
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I hope Mourinho says "I hope they stand by him after another bad moment" after the game. Pls.
ashecitism
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I don't believe him.
They hadn't scored in like 4 games prior to this iirc?
10 point gap in 8 games... can't see it.
Forest are blowing it and I don't want Wigan or QPR to go back up. Wigan coz it will be a short away trip next season and QPR because they will financially implode
John Dunbar
correct about everything
only just noticed the draw for the next round of CL. if bayern's route to the final will be arsenal-manu-chelsea, then there is no justice in the world. premier league mugs.
The_Hitcher89
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He should have sent everyone away and given himself 30 seconds to think of any advantage that they could be trying to gain by pretending it was Ox. Then the logical conclusion would be that he was telling the truth and he'd look like a bit of an idiot instead of a complete twat
To be fair, if I had to try and write Alex Oxlade Chamberlain in a notebook that small, I'd probably say "fuck it" and send off Gibbs too.
The_Hitcher89
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:lol
They hadn't scored in like 4 games prior to this iirc?
10 point gap in 8 games... can't see it.
Forest are blowing it and I don't want Wigan or QPR to go back up. Wigan coz it will be a short away trip next season and QPR because they will financially implode
Yeah I don't see it either. Hoping they come up; wouldn't mind Forest or Brighton either. Reading, QPR and Wigan all just went down so they can fuck off, let someone else have a go.
the midfield and full-backs; it's such a stupid, simple thing to fix. doesn't even need Flamini to play to solve that problem, just stop telling Sagna and Gibbs to recklessly charge forward when the world's flimsiest midfield is probably going to get pressured off the ball and walk straight into a 3 on 2 counter and concede a goal off the flanks. it's so simple Wenger's ACTUALLY FIXED IT BEFORE. we don't play like this at home, we didn't play like this against Dortmund away, etc. It's fucking infuriating. we know Arsenal can play compact and defensively, and get results while playing that way, so why doesn't Wenger set the team up like that in every single big game?
if we didn't have such a shit striker, maybe we wouldn't have to commit so many players forward? whatever. fuck giroud.
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lol Flamini and Jenkinson on? might as well wave the white flag, I guess
if we didn't have such a shit striker, maybe we wouldn't have to commit so many players forward? whatever. fuck giroud.
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lol Flamini and Jenkinson on? might as well wave the white flag, I guess
I think there's some sort of remit for Ref's to just ignore everything the players say. I remember Robbie Fowler telling the ref when Liverpool were playing Arsenal that the penalty he had given Liverpool was wrong, and the Ref didn't change his mind.
The_Hitcher89
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Then he missed the penalty on purpose. Even though he hit it on target. And the keeper had to dive to save it.
The intent doesn't matter. It was going wide, so it's not a red. He hasn't denied a goal. If he hadn't touched it, there is not chance a goal would have been scored.
RT @FA: Clubs can appeal mistaken identity to The @FA, although The @FA can pro-actively review also. 1/2
RT @FA: Following a red card clubs can also review possibility of a wrongful dismissal claim to The @FA, unless dismissal is for 2 yellow cards 2/2
Well there's that, at least. Haha.
RT @FA: Following a red card clubs can also review possibility of a wrongful dismissal claim to The @FA, unless dismissal is for 2 yellow cards 2/2
Well there's that, at least. Haha.
The intent doesn't matter. It was going wide, so it's not a red. He hasn't denied a goal.
Well, it would have been very hard for the ref and lino to see it was going wide from there. Ox didn't think it was going wide either. Justified red for his stupidity.
FortuneFaded
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I think Phil Neville is ready for the big time.
ashecitism
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So can Flamini tbf
Wenger is such a bizarre manager
He's the one thing propping you up in 4th, yet he's also the man most responsible for you failing to mount a proper title challenge since what, 2004?
His blind spots are ludicrous, especially for someone of his experience. Something I've really liked about Rodgers is his willingness to discard his idea of perfect football to lessen the impact that our weak spots have.
If we're failing to keep hold of the ball and have the lead, drop back, ride our luck, see it through. If the other team is pressing high, put Sturridge on the shoulder and loft the ball over their defense. If we play ourselves into trouble, twat one down the line and give the strikers something to chase. If Skrtel and Toure are the centrebacks, play the line deep as fuck, especially with Mig's reluctance to leave his line.
Then there's the nuances of his formations based on opposition, like turning the 4-3-3 into a 4-4-2 diamond, putting 5 at the back when we expect to be threatened from crosses.
Where is the compromise from Wenger? The sacrifices made for the greater good? The safe options to make 1-0 a probability, rather than a 3-0 and a 0-3 being equally likely? Why is he sticking so resolutely by his philosophy when he's spent the last 3 years filling the team with personnel who are more likely to flourish in a different system? Why does he drop the idea of a pure DM so easily, when it's become such an important role especially in these season-defining games?
Wenger is an enigma.
Now for Rodgers to fuck it up against Cardiff ala Aston Villa
He was always like this, even in our successful times. Had one good formula and only used it. But back then we had the luck of having some tough guys and class players who could make a difference.
Definitely hard to see. Incredibly stupid. Just not a red for me. Can see why it was given, but an incorrect decision (on two fronts).
Keep in mind though, that I'm enjoying watching this crumbling Arsenal here.
The_Hitcher89
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Shit, wasn't he a target?
Good. That means we can focus on someone else.
Steverulez
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The intent doesn't matter. It was going wide, so it's not a red. He hasn't denied a goal. If he hadn't touched it, there is not chance a goal would have been scored.
Thats a shit rule then and I dont have any sympathy for him because it was fucking stupid thing to do.
Edit: To add to that, I also think that the rules are completely unfair to the teams who the fouls are against. It was a deliberate attempt by Ox to cheat and stop us gaining any possible advantage from that situation. As I said before in my long ass post about Demichellis I think it was when City played Barcelona, no-one put a gun to Ox's head to do it.
Its like all the supporters of abolishing the last man rule, its all said to suit their own teams and not the team who are being wronged and denied an opportunity they worked for. You take down a last man, you deserve a red, you deserve the suspension and you deserve the play the rest of the match without that player. Dont like it, dont foul, dont handball. Obviously its different if it wasnt a handball or a foul but also the idea of "ruining a big match" is rubbish too.
ashecitism
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I hope Mourinho will trash talk or make some snarky remarks towards Wenger after the match
totally deserves it
totally deserves it
velociraptor
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I think Wenger might be a problem because he has no tactical nous.
Even with CL, Liverpool can't sign players
At least they aren't us.
Remember the Fer debacle?
Bloody Hell!
That was nobody's fault. Fer just has a shitty knee.
christ almighty that has got to be one of the most hysterical first halves of football ive ever seen... and for arsenal to implode on wenger's 1000th, they def were shitting on him of all ppl. bad luck arsenal gaf, for your promising season didnt deserve this, but wallopings from city, liverpool and now chelsea... something has got to give. not even beating united at all this season is also fucked
The_Hitcher89
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Sterling suffering from fatigue I imagine. Bit disappointed he isn't starting, the more pace the better imo. Coutinho's gotta step it up. Think we could be troubled if Cardiff play like they'd be happy with a draw, Sterling attacks more relentlessly than Coutinho and Allen, and Coutinho can be a bit of a liability when we're up against a congested defense, and he keeps giving it away.
Dutch Gronk
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I think Ivanovic just needs to face facts and shave his head.
RT @RobHarris: BBC says Andre Marriner has admitted off camera to them he made a mistake. So why not have ref explain that for us all to hear at half time?
Crazy.
Very inconsistent, but his highs are very high.
Crazy.
Very inconsistent, but his highs are very high.
Or he's just being rotated with the Sunderland game in mind. Could start Sahko, Lucas and Sterling in the next match.
Baconsaurus Rex
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My title was better
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