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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT8| Made it to the Championship play-offs

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I can see United cracking up knowing the goal difference is out of reach and one slip up now before the city game would be huge

Oh fuck I forgot rovers were playing today
 
Damn big win for City. Momentum is key in title races and we handed it back to them on Wednesday. Won't catch that GD now so we can't afford any slip ups if City are to beat us (which I think they will!). Gonna be nervous tmrw.

I think the percentage is pretty low..
Even if it is, whatever it is, it's been good enough over the last 3 years to dominate world football.
 

Wilbur

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So what would you do? Let him roth on the bench and pay him £5m in salary?

Let me get this right: you would rather want your club lose out on a title? On principle?

Most fans would say they'd do anything for a title.

Maybe its different for me because my club has won leagues recently, but yes. He'd be getting paid whether or not he plays.

If City win the title directly because of Tevez, I don't think I'd be able to look at it without thinking its with an absolutely spineless manager in charge and a player who epitomises the mercenary attitude that the club has.
 

GorillaJu

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Carroll has really cleaned up his act apparently. He shies away from the camera, always comes across as nice and level headed when he's on it, and he does indeed work very hard for the team.

Two goals this week for him, and he didn't look bad out there at all. He could well be a part of our team in the coming years.

Maybe its different for me because my club has won leagues recently, but yes. He'd be getting paid whether or not he plays.

If City win the title directly because of Tevez, I don't think I'd be able to look at it without thinking its with an absolutely spineless manager in charge and a player who epitomises the mercenary attitude that the club has.

While I think the Tevez situation looked awful from the outside, this post looks like only one thing to me:

salt-word-m.jpg
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
City are back with a vengeance. If the ref hadn't bottled it during the Fulham game at Old Trafford...
 

Manager

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It's a balancing act. Long term it could be a problem because it basically says a good player can be bigger than the club and the manager and have his own way. If you allow for that and then don't succeed, then the other players will either feel they can do the same or feel aggrieved that though they behave properly, they won't be treated the same way as other players (Dzeko for example).

Of course if you end up winning those things may be forgotten, but it's a risky strategy.

Even if City don't get the title, Tevez has showed what a player he is. I don't think there's much risk of what you say happening. The squad loves him (for some reason).

I would agree if Tevez returned and was shit, then it would create shit feelings. But Dzeko & CO now sees what a great player he actually is. I mean, Tevez acting has resulted in City selling him. Everyone knows he's off. It's punishment in a way.

Dzeko must stop complaining and play well. I don't see any other player disliking this, for some reason they all seem to adore Tevez.

I mean, he's a cunt. But he'll be off this summer. Dzeko knows he won't get as high salary in other clubs, so he can't act like Tevez.
 

Mastadon

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Carroll has really cleaned up his act apparently. He shies away from the camera, always comes across as nice and level headed when he's on it, and he does indeed work very hard for the team.

Two goals this week for him, and he didn't look bad out there at all. He could well be a part of our team in the coming years.



While I think the Tevez situation looked awful from the outside, this post looks like only one thing to me:

salt-word-m.jpg

This. Jesus christ, give me £40k a week when I was 18/19 and the things I'd do would make Carroll look like a boy scout.

He's clearly matured since moving to us.
 

Manager

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Maybe its different for me because my club has won leagues recently, but yes. He'd be getting paid whether or not he plays.

If City win the title directly because of Tevez, I don't think I'd be able to look at it without thinking its with an absolutely spineless manager in charge and a player who epitomises the mercenary attitude that the club has.

I doubt anyone care how City won it. A title is a title. Mancini, spineless or not, would be a winner.

Of course other fans would call him all kinds of insults. But they would anyway, no matter what happened.
 

GorillaJu

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Aguero.
Rooney.
RVP.
Wilshere.
Modric.
Bale.

Fixed. I'm sorry but what manager in his right mind would trade a 25 year old world class striker for a 30 year old midfielder, an overrated child, a pouty, unreliable Dutchman, etc.?

A few close calls like Mata, but even then.. Nah. Not over Suarez.
 
Even if City don't get the title, Tevez has showed what a player he is. I don't think there's much risk of what you say happening. The squad loves him (for some reason).

I would agree if Tevez returned and was shit, then it would create shit feelings. But Dzeko & CO now sees what a great player he actually is. I mean, Tevez acting has resulted in City selling him. Everyone knows he's off. It's punishment in a way.

Dzeko must stop complaining and play well. I don't see any other player disliking this, for some reason they all seem to adore Tevez.

I mean, he's a cunt. But he'll be off this summer. Dzeko knows he won't get as high salary in other clubs, so he can't act like Tevez.
May be true but the biggest problem has to be how the manager is undermined. Mancini will do damn well to have total respect of his players when he's already shown that he can basically be bullied by one of them.

Anyway I like Mancini so I hope it works out for him, just not at City! :)
 
Did Carroll not twat his bird or something?

Why do people presume he's a nice guy? Just because he's a bit shit?

Back when we played for Newcastle reserves he went out with a friend of mine. Total piece of shit. Cheated on her with underage girls I knew etc etc. Her Dad fucking hated him, they got in a physical fight one time...Big Andy came off worse.

She took a photo once when he was giving her head, that was good for a laugh haha! Seen him in the casino at Newcastle aswell, so pissed he couldn't sit on his chair, abusing the staff etc. He's a piece of shit.
 

Clegg

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Rooney
Valencia
Vidic
Berbatov
Aguero
Tevez
Silva
Kompany
Toure
Rvp
Mata
Dempsey
Modric
Bale
Ba
Cisse

Thats all I could get.

And Salazar caught a few with that delicious bait.
 

GorillaJu

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Not salt at all. Just confuses me how every City fan is all over his dick all of a sudden

WAYNE ROONEY

United had been willing to make him the highest earner at the club, with a weekly salary of £150,000, and the club's chief executive, David Gill, had stated several times earlier in the year that the matter would be resolved as soon as Rooney was back from the World Cup.

That now appears to have backfired on Gill, with the message already conveyed to senior figures at Old Trafford that Rooney is now counting down his days at the club

You should know how it feels. Not confusing at all.
 

Manager

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May be true but the biggest problem has to be how the manager is undermined. Mancini will do damn well to have total respect of his players when he's already shown that he can basically be bullied by one of them.

Anyway I like Mancini so I hope it works out for him, just not at City! :)

But was Mancini really bullied? Tevez lost £9m in salaries.

I wouldn't call Mancini spineless. He had no choice. No club wanted Tevez in January, and it would be a retarded decision business wise to let him rot when he returned.

His biggest fault was the interview where he said Tevez would never play again. It was just one of his many stupid statements he has done. Like when he resigned for Inter straight after a CL match.
 

Kyoufu

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Go on then.


1 Robin van Persie
2 Wayne Rooney
3 Sergio Agüero
4 Clint Dempsey
5 Yakubu Aiyegbeni
6 Demba Ba
7 Edin Dzeko
8 Mario Balotelli
9 Emmanuel Adebayor
10 Grant Holt
11 Papiss Cisse
12 Hatem Ben Arfa
13 Carlos Tevez
14 Gareth Bale
15 Javier Hernandez
16 Theo Walcott
17 Rafael Van der Vaart
18 Daniel Sturridge
19 Vincent Kompany
20 Juan Mata

and that's just a rough list.
 

Manager

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Not salt at all. Just confuses me how every City fan is all over his dick all of a sudden

Who? I think it has been pretty clear that both me and dc think he's a bastard, but that Mancini has no choice but to play him since we both want the league title.

Screaming "Tevez!!" when he scores doesn't mean we're on his dick.
 

GorillaJu

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Well, Kenny's not.

I did pick mostly advanced players, to my credit.

And rofl at world class striker. He wouldn't have got near a goal today if not for a career-defining cock up.

What the fuck are you rofling about? For a self-declared "lit guy," you seem confused about two simple words.

1 Robin van Persie
2 Wayne Rooney
3 Sergio Agüero
4 Clint Dempsey
5 Yakubu Aiyegbeni
6 Demba Ba
7 Edin Dzeko
8 Mario Balotelli
9 Emmanuel Adebayor
10 Grant Holt
11 Papiss Cisse
12 Hatem Ben Arfa
13 Carlos Tevez
14 Gareth Bale
15 Javier Hernandez
16 Theo Walcott
17 Rafael Van der Vaart
18 Daniel Sturridge
19 Vincent Kompany
20 Juan Mata

and that's just a rough list.

And most of those are laughable. Come the fuck on with this shit. You're pathetic.

Keep it coming haters, I'll be here all night.
 

Wilbur

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WAYNE ROONEY



You should know how it feels. Not confusing at all.

For a year I was wildly indifferent to him. He fucked me off a lot and three days later it was over. For a year and a half now he's been fine.

Tevez has been away for half a year, repeatedly disrespected the manager, the club, the fans... It's different. Similar circumstances but you can't deny they're different.
 
Threads about to get messy.

Rooney and Tevez situations are comparable but a few key differences. That said its obv why City fans love him again, they need wins he's got them a win. Simple as that really. In the summer when he goes this will be a moment of weakess like when you drift back to your ex on a desperate night.

Kyoufu's list is amazing. 3 pages out of that alone.
 

Salvadora

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For a year I was wildly indifferent to him. He fucked me off a lot and three days later it was over. For a year and a half now he's been fine.

Tevez has been away for half a year, repeatedly disrespected the manager, the club, the fans... It's different. Similar circumstances but you can't deny they're different.

To be fair with Rooney you never know what will happen.
 

elseanio

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1 Robin van Persie
2 Wayne Rooney
3 Sergio Agüero
4 Clint Dempsey
5 Yakubu Aiyegbeni
6 Demba Ba
7 Edin Dzeko
8 Mario Balotelli
9 Emmanuel Adebayor
10 Grant Holt
11 Papiss Cisse
12 Hatem Ben Arfa
13 Carlos Tevez
14 Gareth Bale
15 Javier Hernandez
16 Theo Walcott
17 Rafael Van der Vaart
18 Daniel Sturridge
19 Vincent Kompany
20 Juan Mata

and that's just a rough list.


It's mainly just this list..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/top_scorers/default.stm

Why not use the top goal scorers from last season too?
 
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