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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT| The Beautiful Game
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Mr. Luchador
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Really?
Has 2-3 good games in a season. If he can gain any consistency perhaps.
Has 2-3 good games in a season. If he can gain any consistency perhaps.
I can't quite figure out why Arsenal's management are playing such hardball with RVP. They are turning all interest in the player away with their stance and we need to sell him if he doesn't want to sign.
I just so wish he would have a change of heart and be commited to the club. But he wont so he needs to go.... 15-20mil will do at this point, imo.
I just so wish he would have a change of heart and be commited to the club. But he wont so he needs to go.... 15-20mil will do at this point, imo.
Mr. Luchador
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When was the last time Arsenal managed to have a good transfer window/deal?
I hope that's not directed at Nani.
Mr. Luchador
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Yes. We need to build another winger into the side gradually. We couldn't just swap a player like Nani for someone.
Young isn't it. It would take years for Moura to get close to being it.
Not going to argue that he's perpetually lethal. But he gets goals, and makes them, and is a fast, strong, intelligent bastard who has a decent understanding with the rest of our attack.
Mr. Luchador
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Nani is 25 now, so he'll be around his peak physically so this will probably be the height of his football career with a mix of physical ability and mental understanding. I can't see him ever getting better, or becoming consistent.
Are there better wingers out there? Probably.
Will you bid for them? Probably not.
So in that sense I can understand why you'd want to resign him, but I wouldn't throw money at him.
Are there better wingers out there? Probably.
Will you bid for them? Probably not.
So in that sense I can understand why you'd want to resign him, but I wouldn't throw money at him.
Thierry Henry leaving before 07/08? That was the last time the whole "sell superstar, hope rest of team is spurred on by their departure" worked, partly because Wenger bought very shrewdly in that window and partly because we relied too heavily on an aging, increasingly injury-prone striker in decline (hmm...now why does this sound familiar). Eduardo, Diarra (even if he was sold shortly afterwards), Sanga were all effective, while allowing players like Cesc, Adebayor, RVP, Flamini to really come into their own.
Mr. Luchador
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Yeah, I guess that's about right. Seems like a cliché now that Arsenal seem to mess up the transfer windows.
Mr. Luchador
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I was talking to a coach that was once an apprentice footballer (before it was renamed as Youth/Development/Professional Youth) about the differences when he was coming through the ranks 20 years ago to now.
Basically the guys now don't do anything.
They had to clean the changing rooms.
Clean boots.
Do errands for the senior players.
Ball boy duties
All of which engrained a bit of respect and understanding into him (also bumped the meager pay they got back then).
Basically the guys now don't do anything.
They had to clean the changing rooms.
Clean boots.
Do errands for the senior players.
Ball boy duties
All of which engrained a bit of respect and understanding into him (also bumped the meager pay they got back then).
Gareth Bale
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Harry makes youth players clean boots. Not much point to it now though. It won't teach them anything considering how well they are paid.
There are not many better wingers in the world right now and Nani has always been doing the job thats been asked be it on the right or left. Within the PL i believe he along with Valencia are the best Right wingers so yea it would be stupid to let him go even if we signed Moura.
Gareth Bale
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Investors are killing the beautiful game.
Who knows.
It has been described as an entirely owner-driven move, though. Which is a bit sad. If a team is going to spend absurd money, it should at least be doing it because a manager has plans about how a player could fit in or alter his squad.
Huge shock, Cazorla had officially joined arsenal
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-sign-spain-midfielder-santi-cazorla
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-sign-spain-midfielder-santi-cazorla
Fixtures for NextGen Series announced: http://www.nextgenseries.com/FixturesResultsTables
Sky's Graeme Bailey believes the fee to be around 19m.
I think there's a strong case to suggest Arsenal could come out of this transfer window very well. Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla could be excellent signings. And aren't they still in for Sahin?
Mr.Copyright
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Welcome to Arsenal Football Club Santi Cazorla!
My dad will probably be over the moon that Arsenal are doing so well transfer-wise. Real sign of intent. If Van Persie does stay - even until January at least - they will be a true force to be reckoned with. That is unless the usual Arsenal luck kicks in and they still can't do any better than *just* compete for top 4.
IF they dont sign any good defenders they will be doing just that.
For Arsenal, the best form of defence has always been offence!
But yeah, a solid back 4 would bring the finishing touches to the team.
choodi
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So who is the 30+ goals a year striker they are referring to?
I still back them to fall apart. Injuries, hilarious defending, wantaway key striker, dawdling and petulant midfielders.
Freewheelin'
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YES.
I love the Arteta pics btw, he's so awesome :lol
Broder Salsa
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and I thought my smile was bad.
FK specialist, dude scores them with his eyes closed
I hope barcelona buys Alex Song he is exactly what we need. Mascherano at CB is a beast, as a DM he doesn't work as well in Barcelona. Song is the player we need after Keita's departure. the CB position is covered up well with Mascherano, Puyol, Pique, Bartra.
not really, but he scores a lot of them
I hope barcelona buys Alex Song he is exactly what we need. Mascherano at CB is a beast, as a DM he doesn't work as well in Barcelona. Song is the player we need after Keita's departure. the CB position is covered up well with Mascherano, Puyol, Pique, Bartra.
FootballFan
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Damn good signing for Arsenal.
Also lol @ goal.coms top 50:
3.Messi
2.Casillas
1.Ronaldo
Only 1 Bayern player in whole top 50 as well. Ahh that site is such a joke.
Also lol @ goal.coms top 50:
3.Messi
2.Casillas
1.Ronaldo
Only 1 Bayern player in whole top 50 as well. Ahh that site is such a joke.
Gareth Bale
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Miguel Delaney said his source at United was convinced that Lucas was going o sign for them. Now says that the PSG approach has United "concerned".
Read somewhere that PSG don't even need Lucas. They're just buying him as a message to other clubs in Europe. They're seeing it as a coup. Basically saying "look at us, we can compete with the biggest clubs in Europe and win out because we have lots of money".
Read somewhere that PSG don't even need Lucas. They're just buying him as a message to other clubs in Europe. They're seeing it as a coup. Basically saying "look at us, we can compete with the biggest clubs in Europe and win out because we have lots of money".
How would you feel if RVP signed a new deal? He won't but hypothetically speaking.
Our back 4 are decent, aside from Gibbs, and if we can get Sahin as we are obviously trying too then we should be okay. I'm hopeful that Steve Bould being our assistant coach will help our defence. The players have already confirmed, well Szczesny and Vermaelen have, that Bould is working with them defensively so we will see how that goes.
goal.com is to football what ign.com is to gaming. both sites are trash.
I think Giroud and Podolski would be justified in being a bit pissed at having to rotate with a (presumably first choice) striker who has slated the club so hard and done his utmost to get out.
On the one hand, it's just how things go in football and they're paid silly money to deal with it. On the other, that's kind of a fucked up Tevez-like situation in the making. Granted, RVP isn't the morally shambolic nutcase that Tevez is, but he can sulk.
Wenger should stop asking for such a fucking daft wedge. It's almost small-time of him.
Your back four are decent on paper. But they are liable to crumble under sustained pressure and we've seen this countless times over the last few seasons.
I'm probably the only United fan here who would agree with you, I'd be happy enough to let Nani leave for a reasonable fee.
Whilst he has his moments he's immensely frustrating to watch at times, and is either very good or very poor, very few times he has anything inbetween.
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