No idea. Recorded it off film4 about a month ago. It's 191 minutes long including ads.
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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT2| @agent_89: My sources tell me the season has started
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No idea. Recorded it off film4 about a month ago. It's 191 minutes long including ads.
Facism
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Ah you watch my league, then? The galatasaray game was tense stuff on monday.
Being injured and then not playing football for nearly a whole year puts him in a better position fitness wise than anyone in Arsenal's first team.
I've a feeling they show the extended one.
Still big. Not huge. Not for a while now. And they're a decade of consistent achievement off being massive.
Sure, but do you generally trust the opinions of babbling morons?
"Big" is loosely defined. If we're talking amount of fans, then the two biggest clubs are United and Liverpool. If we're talking "big" in terms of historical significance, current success, overall revenue, quality of players, and amount of fans, then Arsenal are a big club without question. To say otherwise is... well, it's something only Robbie Savage or internet trolls would say.
Vivalaraza
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All comes down to what defines "big" or "huge" or whatever word you use.
Arenal's history is fantastic. If you compare that aspect of the club to say, City (not trollin', they're a good example here)...Arsenal are well ahead. They've been a club which has operated at the top level in alot of aspects for years and years. They have worldwide appeal, a top quality stadium, amazing facilities etc.
In that sense, they will always be a "big" club and it would take a long period of stagnation, probably even going backwards, to change that.
But if you're talking about competitively...obv. they have fallen off. The mentality of a club also comes into it IMO. I think part of being an elite club is to retain your best players, to bring the best players in...it's all part of having the best of everything. Maybe there are some question marks there regarding Arsenal.
I consider Newcastle a big club so I can't really agree with Robbie Savage regarding Arsenal.
My definition of "big" is history and fan support though, not sheer financial muscle/trophies.
Yep pretty much this.
My definition of "big" is history and fan support though, not sheer financial muscle/trophies.
Yep pretty much this.
mocolostrocolos
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Guys, Sleeping Dogs is a great game, but like every Sandbox I play, I will get tired of it.
Just did the Minibus mission. Hilarious.
Just did the Minibus mission. Hilarious.
Savage's main contribution to the stock of human pleasure is the way he sniggers in the background at callers on 606.
Same.
Something something MASSIVE club
Arsenal will be fine, but they'd definitely benefit from keeping good players alongside making these signings so I can understand the discontent.
I don't know what's worse. Pundits who don't know what the F they're talking about or football fans who don't know what the F they're talking about.
That Liverpool fan who was having a go at Robbie Savage made me facepalm.
mocolostrocolos
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How do you measure how big a club is? By incomes, by trophies, by club dimension?
Arsenal hasn't win anything in like 8 years or so, right? However they're always there to fight for something.
Broder Salsa
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Saints Row 2 > Saints Row 3 > Sleeping Dogs
Vivalaraza
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No.
Clubs like Reading, Swansea, Stoke...just off the top of my head, are not "big" clubs under any definition.
No disrespect to them, to achieve what they achieved by getting to the PL and in the case of the first two staying there, is amazing. But they're not "big" clubs just because they managed to get promoted.
Edit - My bad, you said most. I guess you are right in that sense.
Roland Garros
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Big is a rubbish term to describe footy clubs because it cold be easily argued Wigan and Reading are big clubs, such is there exposure on the world stage.
'World class' is a more accurate description because to me it denotes the ability to mix it with the top clubs in the world. City, United, Chelsea, and to a lesser extent Arsenal all fit into this category at the current time, thanks to their squad of players. Spurs recently were but seem to be on the slide. The rest of the teams in the PL aren't world class in my opinion.
'World class' is a more accurate description because to me it denotes the ability to mix it with the top clubs in the world. City, United, Chelsea, and to a lesser extent Arsenal all fit into this category at the current time, thanks to their squad of players. Spurs recently were but seem to be on the slide. The rest of the teams in the PL aren't world class in my opinion.
HotHamWater
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Fixed.
Tim the Wiz
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Arsenal is a big club and well set-up for the future. Its management, stadium, philosophy, support and history is all impressive. And I don't see the club dropping out of the top four like Liverpool any time soon. Can they win trophies? I think that depends largely on whether the board can lift its ambition, particularly when it comes to the wage structure.
Oh yeah, forgot about Guerilla. Awesome game, but I remember it being borked on ATi cards.
Merely being the Premiership makes a club bigger than 99% of other clubs simply due to the immense global reach of the PL. Then when you add on CL the only foreign clubs that could actually compete with Arsenal in the transfer market are Madrid, Barca & Bayern Munich (and the stupid money clubs ofc). That to me makes them a big club.
This thread can't agree on the correct usage of "world class."
Broder Salsa
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It is and yeah you need to start it. I always end up using half my time playing the game in the character creator though, but I am happy with my current one
Just the opening of SR3 alone beats anything SR2 did.
Phantast2k
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Am I the only one who feels like neither Liverpool, nor Arsenal/Spurs need Sahin as much as Utd.? :O
Dortmund have made a € 40m profit (not sure if before of after tax) in 11/12 according to an ad-hoc report while the revenue was € 215m.
*feels good, etc*
Dortmund have made a € 40m profit (not sure if before of after tax) in 11/12 according to an ad-hoc report while the revenue was € 215m.
*feels good, etc*
It's only sad because he played for Schalkeh.Christian Poulsen's clubs over the last 10 years:
7 clubs in 7 different countries. Surely that's a record. A sad one maybe, but a record nonetheless.
mocolostrocolos
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Dammit, I've only played an hour or so of SRIII.
Vivalaraza
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A football club is, or at least should be, defined by alot more than just what it wins though, and how good it's first team is - a football club offers alot more than just the first team squad and how it performs on a Saturday.
That "world class" or "big club" status is built up over years and years, not over a short term. If City lost the Sheikh...they'd be nowhere next season. They're currently a highly competitive club...I don't think they're "world class" or "big" for now...the clubs plans are definitely making sure they get there though.
Plz tell Frogson.
If Sleeping Dogs is like Saints Row then chances are I won't enjoy it. Found the latter to be shallow wank, much preferred GTA IV, despite everyone's insistence that the game was 'boring'. And then RDR is in a class of it's own in terms of open world games this generation, so there's no way it's matching that.
Oh and I actually enjoyed LA Noire (the story devolved into utter bunkum at the end, though) because it was something completely new and fresh. The core of the game might've been odd, and lacking at times, but it was a unique experience and one that I was enjoying despite it's problems.
Oh and I actually enjoyed LA Noire (the story devolved into utter bunkum at the end, though) because it was something completely new and fresh. The core of the game might've been odd, and lacking at times, but it was a unique experience and one that I was enjoying despite it's problems.
Gareth Bale
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It's not like Saints Row. It takes itself a lot more seriously.
Sleeping dogs is better by far,you can´t compare.
That's good then. I'll give it a look when it hits the bargain bins. Still need to play Max Payne 3.
You should finish it,RDR is an absolute masterpiece.
Ballad of Gay Tony is the best GTA IV game.
Also, for the people that enjoyed driving in GTA IV, you are going to be very dissapointed by Sleeping Dogs.
Vivalaraza
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Haven't gamed in ages.
Is Sleeping Dogs worth going back for?
Is Sleeping Dogs worth going back for?
Yeah, I picked up that GTA pack in the Steam sales, so I'm definitely going to play the episodes soon.
Broder Salsa
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Possible the most overhyped game of this generation. When you make cutscenes unskippable they better not be full of shitty characters and shitty story telling. The gameplay itself ranges from decent to kind of good, glad it bombed.
LabouredSubterfuge
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As will Sleeping Dogs, no doubt. GAF-hype is never wrong.
Lol, this is great: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921
Hadn't either. If you like open-world games, fun hand-to-hand combat and have a gaming itch to scratch, I'd say yea.
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