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[Meus Renaissance]

You still haven't learned your lesson, have you? Never bet on Arsenal

No I didn't bet on them. I've learnt my lesson

 

[fuenf]

aw fuck, lucky ass Dortmund. First these conditions and now JT scores.

 

[Awesome Animals]

After discussing it this past week the gf and I made Rice balls. They were really good. Here was the finished product:

 

[Ushojax]

Why are Arsenal playing in slow motion. Its like they are not even trying.

This is what they've been like for the last 2 years. Except they don't have RVP anymore. Arsenal were often sluggish and too pretty but RVP would convert the most difficult half chances and the performance was papered over.

 

[Kyoufu]

After discussing it this past week the gf and I made Rice balls. They were really good. Here was the finished product:

Rehost!

 

[Salvadora]

Take Ramsey off at half-time please.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Well I'm assuming Cleverley or Wilshere is slotting into the forward most position in a middle three, and Wilshere's a much greater goal threat than Cleverley, as is Shelvey.

Cleverley could slot into the midfield position alongside an experienced player like Gerrard/Carrick/Lampard, but in two years I fully expect Shelvey to have eclipsed Cleverley in overall worth to the England first 11.

Ah, so the underlying argument is basically that it is a given the Shelvey will be a first 11 fixture in the England team. Let's just say you (unsurprisingly) have considerably more confidence in his development than I.

Well, Hodgson seems to switch between playing a 4-4-2 and 4-2-3-1, so assuming you have a DM & Wilshere as a midfield 2, the 3rd position would either be taken by a striker or someone to play 'in the hole'. Shelvey, as an example, would be far more suited to playing in the advanced position than Cleverley even if he still has a long way to develop. Unless England switch to more of a 4-3-3 then it's difficult for Cleverley to fit.

I think Cleverley is better able to play in a midfield 2 than Shelvey. I also think he can shift roles in central midfield more capably than Shelvey - be it deep midfield build up or last third intricacy. In fact, the only thing I think Shelvey does better currently is kick the ball harder. He's much more likely to go for a long range shot or a Gerrard-eque Hollywood ball than Cleverley.

I think that having a holding midielder with two smaller more intricate players in Wilshere and Cleverley would be a quite intriguing shift in philosophy for England, as opposed to always needing Gerrard/Lampard/Carrick Hollywood ball style midfielder in there.

 

[Yurt]

 

[Moobabe]

Links to the Arsenal game please! THANKS!

 

[Meus Renaissance]

To be honest I fancy a draw at the Arsenal game. If QPR score, then Arsenal will not get 3 points

 

[Kyoufu]

To be honest I fancy a draw at the Arsenal game. If QPR score, then Arsenal will not get 3 points

Need Arsenal to win and Fulham to draw.

 

[Awesome Animals]

Fixed!

 

[Alucard]

Take Ramsey off at half-time please.

Gervinho time?

That was a very tepid first half for Arsenal. The tempo just isn't there. They're playing awkwardly and just seem to randomly be kicking the ball around without any real rhythm or purpose. They're not playing as a cohesive unit, and that needs to change if they are to have success.

 

[Phantast2k]

aw fuck, lucky ass Dortmund. First these conditions and now JT scores.

/leave Kehl alone :|

 

[Blablurn]

Fucking dortmund scum

 

[SunhiLegend]

My word that was a boring first half.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

Fixed!

Best ever iPod!

 

[fuenf]

I dont get it. I thought playing in the snow would level the playing field for Freiburg, but it looks like they cant even complete a single pass, let alone move foward.

 

[Hixx]

Another 45 mins without a shot on target. Keeping the ball better but... playing against Stoke. 0-0 all over this, not changed my mind after 45 mins.

 

[snoopen]

Yawn.. Arsenal put me to sleep. 2am, recording the rest for tomorrow.

 

[GorillaJu]

After discussing it this past week the gf and I made Rice balls. They were really good. Here was the finished product:

Haha, cool. Nice job.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Need another goal in the Fulham and Wigan matches, need Arsenal to win (lol) and less than 5 goals in the Sunderland match (lulz)


Scratch that, Celtic have fucked it up by the looks of it. And Malaga


No more betting after CL matches for me

 

[Arnie]

Ah, so the underlying argument is basically that it is a given the Shelvey will be a first 11 fixture in the England team. Let's just say you (unsurprisingly) have considerably more confidence in his development than I.

Considering he's competing admirably for a position alongside Nuri Sahin at the age of 20, I'd say your pessimism is anchored by your club allegiance, rather than common sense.

I think Cleverley is better able to play in a midfield 2 than Shelvey. I also think he can shift roles in central midfield more capably than Shelvey - be it deep midfield build up or last third intricacy. In fact, the only thing I think Shelvey does better currently is kick the ball harder. He's much more likely to go for a long range shot or a Gerrard-eque Hollywood ball than Cleverley.

Yet Shelvey's put in a top performance as a holding midfielder against City, and been able to score goals and impact games as an attacking midfielder, like he did in Europe against Young Boys.

No offense, but I don't think you know what you're on about, and the Shelvey versus Cleverley arguments been dragged out enough already.

 

[Salvadora]

Only two goals in the four 3pm kick offs. Not much of a super Saturday so far.

 

[Awesome Animals]

Best ever iPod!

The new touch is pretty great. And nothing beats a classic. I have like six iPods or iPhones. It is gross. That's the gfs though

Haha, cool. Nice job.

Thanks

 

[Elephantstone]

such a joy to watch Gundogan plays.....


Now Klopp puts Perisic on, I can sense a Freiburg goal coming =\

 

[Arnie]

such a joy to watch Gundogan plays.....

I think he'll stay at Dortmund for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a deluge of bids come in for him in the summer.

 

[Salvadora]

Arsenal not making any changes.

 

[bud]

giroud's first touch is almost as bad as gervinho's.

WILSHERE INJURED

 

[Clegg]

Why are Arsenal so shite?

They used to be the best in the league at slick passing and movement. Now it's sideways pass to static midfielder followed by another pass to a static midfielder.

 

[luxstellarum]

Arsenal not making any changes.

I thought Walcott for Ramsey was the obvious choice..

 

[Salvadora]

WILSHERE IS DOWN

 

[Meus Renaissance]

Arsenal not making any changes.

This is Wenger dude. He won't make changes till the 77th minute where he brings on a striker and puts him on the wing

 

[Tc91]

Uh oh..

 

[Slizz]

This Ref has been skipping and hopping about all game.


And like clockwork Wilshere's out.

 

[G17]

I'm not aware of Gundogan's contract situation. How much would Dortmund be willing to sell him for?

 

[Ushojax]

Wilshere down. As expected.

lol Fergies hat

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

OH GOD NO

Fucking QPR cunts

 

[bud]

frogo-san looks like he walked off the set of eastern promises.

 

[Salvadora]

Aaron Ramsey has to have some of the worst crossing I've ever seen.

 

[G17]

Looking fashionable!

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

Almost didn't recognise Fergie there

 

[Clegg]

I'm not aware of Gundogan's contract situation. How much would Dortmund be willing to sell him for?

Whatever it is, United will be there day one.

 

[Wilbur]

Dat swag

 

[Slizz]

Whatever it is, United will be there day one.

To bid for Lewandowski.

 

[Ushojax]

Aaron Ramsey has to have some of the worst crossing I've ever seen.

He shouldn't be in that position to start with. Walcott for Wilshere soon I think.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Whatever it is, United will be there day one.

I thought he was a CM?

 

[fuenf]

Whatever it is, United will be there day one.

Why would he move to a lesser club? Especially with Kagawa's struggles.

 

[Clegg]

To bid for Lewandowski.

You're probably right.

Frogie loves him some strikers.

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

Fucking book Granero already

Jesus Christ what a cunt