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Football Thread 2017/18 |OT2| Fractured but Ox

LNBL

Member
End of an era
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Thanks Arjen :’(
 
GG guys. Good luck in the playoffs. I believe in you Swedes :)

See you in Russia bois! French team was uninspired and we'll have to do much much better if we want to have a chance next year. We have so much talent and yet we're so far away from our true potential. Save us Mbappé!

Thanks! Good luck to you in Russia, maybe we'll bump into each other again...
 
Silly banter aside, what was Netherlands problem during this quali*?


*Didn't really follow all of qualification till today

First they kept a shitty coach(Danny Blind) in the job for too long. Also a lot of the players they could rely on before they aren't as good anymore + the newer generation is pretty crap.

That's my take.
 

Firemind

Member
They suck. Mostly just that.
Nah. Blind was insecure and rotated too many players to hide his incompetence. You need a team you can build on, like Sweden and Iceland did. That's how you get solid performances. That Babel only now entered the picture just because he scored a bunch of goals in the Turkish league speaks volumes.

Okay, maybe Strootman sucks.
 

LNBL

Member
Silly banter aside, what was Netherlands problem during this quali*?


*Didn't really follow all of qualification till today

In the previous years we relied on players from the golden generation, like Sneijder, Robben and V.D. Vaart. Robben was pretty much the only one that held out this long and the current generation just lacks talent and commitment. The current generation is more occupied with shit off the pitch, than on the pitch. Also they just suck, we have players in our first 11 lineup that arent even starters at their own club. Also shitty choices in terms of the coach selection, they put Danny Blind in charge of the national team. The guy never performed anything noteworthy as a coach after he retired back in the day, but our entiry Football federation is (was) run by people from outside football, atleast that seems to be changing now.
 
Back to back tourneys without the Netherlands. At least they tried?

Now to worry about potentially facing either Croatia, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden or Greece in November.
 

John Dunbar

correct about everything
Hungary, Faroe Islands, Latvia, Andorra. It was a competition with Portugal and they scored less goals, totally fair.

yeah, the group was a joke, but hungary did make it as far as switzerland did in the last euros. and they were the only team to score more than 1 goal against portugal in that tournament.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
Well, no Argentina means that both the runner up and third place aren't present. Crazy.

Silly banter aside, what was Netherlands problem during this quali*?


*Didn't really follow all of qualification till today

We're bad. But if you look at the roster and today's game still easily 2nd best team in this group. Not getting in a second place is shameful.

This qualification started sour, with a coach the players and public didn't even want. After all we failed to qualify for Euro 2016 even. A guy that has no authority, and a bad rep as a coach. Danny Blind is shit, and he was shoehorned in by buddies. No one liked him.

Then you have the first game against Sweden, bad as expected, but ultimately we score the winner and the ref says no. That shouldn't be a problem, because you get Belarus, Luxembourg and Bulgaria next. But Blind kept rotating, hiding behind excuses, leading into the worst and clueless game ever played (Bulgaria away game). Dick Advocaat takes over, wins his first games, then expectedly loses in France but with perhaps too many goals difference. Wins the rest. Sweden somehow beats Lux with 8-0, a team that held France at 0-0 in Paris. We're done and we know it.

The problem is, we don't have a generation of players that can lock the opponent down on their own half like we used to. Not anymore. We're too arrogant in thinking we should stick to our philosophy of the game, despite what admirers like Guardiola say. The time that we didn't even call up Bundesliga and Premier league top scorers because of no room for them are over. Most of our players are at second rate teams today. We essentially swapped with Belgium.

As LvG showed in Brazil, you need to play to the strengths of your squad. That is, accent on defense and luring for counter attacks. If we go forward, todays physically strong midfielders murder us. Ofcourse another generation will rise, one that might be able to dominate games, still not winning silverware but everyone happy. We're a small nation with a small pool.
 

Zasa

Member
I mixed up the starting hour, but I'm still awake.

Kind of want Chile and Colombia to qualify. Although I'm torn between Peru and Colombia. Peru did well in this campaign.
I don't blame you tbh, Peru will be a great underdog team to root for in the WC. Think they'll be pretty popular in general.
 

manfestival

Member
I am in Peru right now surrounded by Peruvians and a part of me wants to cheer for Colombia just because but I know this is a bad idea. I almost know nothing about Football but this almost almost seems like a bad idea
 

Zasa

Member
Grande Bravo!

Man, I have no faith in us holding the line here & sitting back for another half. Brazil have too much quality, & we’re barely getting a decent attack going
 

Kyoufu

Member
Argentina are terrible tbh. They'd be nothing without Messi.

Like, I don't get why Messi has to win a World Cup to cement his legacy as the GOAT. Maradona/Pele couldn't carry this team.
 
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