Chaos2Frozen
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wtf is a kernel security failure and why does it keep happening?!
For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?
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My friends play in console is one of the reasons.
But my main reason is when I game I like to multitask, like browsing Google as I play a jrpg or YouTube a podcast while playing a fighting game.
I do have a gaming pc but I spend most of the time just on YouTube or buying steam games I won't play.
My other problems is I can't use a mouse and keyboard at all. So I get destroyed when I go online on fps.
But my main reason is when I game I like to multitask, like browsing Google as I play a jrpg or YouTube a podcast while playing a fighting game.
I do have a gaming pc but I spend most of the time just on YouTube or buying steam games I won't play.
My other problems is I can't use a mouse and keyboard at all. So I get destroyed when I go online on fps.
Too many games did not launch on my pc. A couple of times they did not launch after having perfectly worked for weeks before the issue
Of course, going by forums I understood what was the issue and found a solution
But this is not how I Intend playing. You already have my money you can't ask also for my time. So I quit PC gaming very soon and never regret it
Of course, going by forums I understood what was the issue and found a solution
But this is not how I Intend playing. You already have my money you can't ask also for my time. So I quit PC gaming very soon and never regret it
I loved PC gaming for about 3 to 6 years. Mostly college time. After I built a nice gaming rig I comfortably played for about 2 years before games advance enough that I was getting performance issues. After that I decided chasing the dragon in gaming was not something I wanted to deal with. I ended up spending more time tinkering with settings and mods more than I was just enjoying playing with the games themselves. I will come back with a new rig eventually but hopefully by that time, I will be able to build something more akin to a gaming/work station for a good price or laptop that can handle everything without going broke. PC gaming took too much time and money for my liking. People say console gaming is more money but I would counter that with launch ps4 400 trade in day one for pro 360, I only paid 560 to play good games at decent settings for 3/4 years and I paid 800 for my PC to be reliable for about same time.
Hollywood Hitman
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I game on ps4 plenty. But to me the ease of using a Pc and console is virtually the same for both anymore
Correctomundo
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I've mentioned it before, and I apologize if I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but I abandoned PC as a gaming platform around 2004 - 2005 for several reasons.
1 - My main motivating factor is that buying physical games just isn't viable anymore. I'm not in for a digital future, and as I already feel forced to buy digital on current gen consoles, this is likely the last generation I participate in. I'm aware that there are some physical releases, yes, and that I can order them online, but this is offset even further by the rest of my reasons.
2 - I'm not impressed by technology. I've never given a squirt of piss about resolution, and while I can differentiate in frame rates, in all honesty, anything above 25fps is playable. I don't care about shaders or aliasing or anything of that sort. Immersion is not something I get. With no dragon to chase, keeping up with the tech isn't a priority in the slightest.
3 - The exclusives aren't there. Oh yes, I'm aware there are exclusives, but not the ones I want to play. Pretty self explanatory.
4 - Price. Yes, I know I can throw together a middling rig for the same price I'm dropping on a console, but then I've got to forget buying the games I want for the console I want for a PC I didn't want. Maybe if I were rolling in money and felt like having a gaming PC so I could say I had a gaming PC, but I've got financial priorities, and a gaming PC isn't on that list anywhere.
5 - I'm sick of managing stuff on my PC. I'm tired of folders, tired of mods, tired of drivers, tired of tweaking ini files, tired of fiddling with options just to get games to run, tired of periodic reformats, tired of installing every goddamned thing... I grew up in the 70s and 80s. I love popping in a game and going.
6 - And this is probably the most important thing, but PC has absolutely nothing to offer me. Literally nothing. I've been there. I was a heavy PC user for most of my youth (well, computers, anyway, if not specifically PC). I know what they can do, but none of it is worth the hassles for me. I realized that I was spending more and more time on consoles, spending more and more money on console games, and that my PC had been relegated to a Diablo 2 machine. Why would I continue to put money into upgrading something I was going to assuredly neglect?
Barring some unforseen paradigm shift, I'm done with PCs. I'm getting everything I need with consoles, but even that appears to be diminishing now.
1 - My main motivating factor is that buying physical games just isn't viable anymore. I'm not in for a digital future, and as I already feel forced to buy digital on current gen consoles, this is likely the last generation I participate in. I'm aware that there are some physical releases, yes, and that I can order them online, but this is offset even further by the rest of my reasons.
2 - I'm not impressed by technology. I've never given a squirt of piss about resolution, and while I can differentiate in frame rates, in all honesty, anything above 25fps is playable. I don't care about shaders or aliasing or anything of that sort. Immersion is not something I get. With no dragon to chase, keeping up with the tech isn't a priority in the slightest.
3 - The exclusives aren't there. Oh yes, I'm aware there are exclusives, but not the ones I want to play. Pretty self explanatory.
4 - Price. Yes, I know I can throw together a middling rig for the same price I'm dropping on a console, but then I've got to forget buying the games I want for the console I want for a PC I didn't want. Maybe if I were rolling in money and felt like having a gaming PC so I could say I had a gaming PC, but I've got financial priorities, and a gaming PC isn't on that list anywhere.
5 - I'm sick of managing stuff on my PC. I'm tired of folders, tired of mods, tired of drivers, tired of tweaking ini files, tired of fiddling with options just to get games to run, tired of periodic reformats, tired of installing every goddamned thing... I grew up in the 70s and 80s. I love popping in a game and going.
6 - And this is probably the most important thing, but PC has absolutely nothing to offer me. Literally nothing. I've been there. I was a heavy PC user for most of my youth (well, computers, anyway, if not specifically PC). I know what they can do, but none of it is worth the hassles for me. I realized that I was spending more and more time on consoles, spending more and more money on console games, and that my PC had been relegated to a Diablo 2 machine. Why would I continue to put money into upgrading something I was going to assuredly neglect?
Barring some unforseen paradigm shift, I'm done with PCs. I'm getting everything I need with consoles, but even that appears to be diminishing now.
Hollywood Hitman
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Fire up steam, plug in any controller you want, click to big screen mode and you're done
It then turns steam into a console type menu setup with game selections. You can plug in a 360 controller, ps4 etc... And run simply the hdmi from your video card to your display and you're set.
It really is that easy
Spaced Harrier
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I Know 2 PC master race guys in real life.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
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This is reality for a lot of PC gamers yet ppl on forums will talk like it NEVER happens. It isn't the 90s anymore man! All the ppl I know in real life that have had issues don't exist. All the ppl my friend helps weekly with issues don't exist.
Chairmanchuck
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Connect your PC with a HDMI cable to your TV or use a Steamlink if your homenetwork is good, connect the controller wirelessly to your PC or Steamlink and configure Steam that BPM launches when you start the PC.
I am not doubting your friends, but somehow every time in those threads people come in and talk about their friends having so many problems with PC gaming that they cant even start any game, while actually, when you look at forums, most games dont make any problems besides some bad ports.
I dont see any posts on GAF that ask you to move certain DLLs into the isntallation folder, revert back to a GPU driver from 1 year ago just to play modern games.
Being out of the PC game for a while I'm mostly just too intimidated to get into it again. It's probably way simpler now but I just don't have time. After a long day at work it feels like I would just come home to another desk, struggle with settings and drivers and maybe play some games.
Other than that the cost of building a PC in my country really is quite high. Together with my country's crime rate, I just really can't afford it. My last 2 gaming laptops were stolen.
Other than that the cost of building a PC in my country really is quite high. Together with my country's crime rate, I just really can't afford it. My last 2 gaming laptops were stolen.
This is the wrong attitude to have.
In reverse, there are plenty of people who are not interested in playing on console and are much happier with PC's positives. Its the same for console users. Dismissing their reasons as excuses doesn't make much sense to me.
Benzychenz
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-It's more work. Have to worry about upgrades, which means you have to know how to swap parts out or pay someone to do it for you. Also updating drivers and any other compatibility issues (for stuff like controllers too).
-A ton of games I play aren't even on PC. Look at what I'm interested in this year:
Gravity Rush 2, Dragon Quest 8, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Digimon World Next Order, Nioh, Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, Persona 5, The Silver Case, Dragon Quest Heroes 2, Danganronpa 3, Tokyo Xanadu, Final Fantasy XII HD, Arms, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey, Ni No Kuni 2.
What percentage aren't on PC?
-I can't get platinum trophies on PC.
-A ton of games I play aren't even on PC. Look at what I'm interested in this year:
Gravity Rush 2, Dragon Quest 8, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Digimon World Next Order, Nioh, Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, Persona 5, The Silver Case, Dragon Quest Heroes 2, Danganronpa 3, Tokyo Xanadu, Final Fantasy XII HD, Arms, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey, Ni No Kuni 2.
What percentage aren't on PC?
-I can't get platinum trophies on PC.
I do game on PC, but only strategy and older stuff on my laptop. Love grand strategy-games and p&c games for instance, which mostly exist on PC.
However, when it comes to contemporary, modern games, I actually did some researching back when Dark Souls 3 came out. My thinking was that i should be able to build a pc that i can hook up to the tv like a console, and play the game as the same or better fidelity for the same price as a ps4 right? Well, i asked for advice on some forums and the impression i got was that the PS4 is simply a much more affordable option then a pc. And then there is also the exclusives like Bloodborne, and while the PC have amazing exclusives too, most of the ones im interested in, play fine on my laptop. So yeah, price was the deciding factor for me.
However, when it comes to contemporary, modern games, I actually did some researching back when Dark Souls 3 came out. My thinking was that i should be able to build a pc that i can hook up to the tv like a console, and play the game as the same or better fidelity for the same price as a ps4 right? Well, i asked for advice on some forums and the impression i got was that the PS4 is simply a much more affordable option then a pc. And then there is also the exclusives like Bloodborne, and while the PC have amazing exclusives too, most of the ones im interested in, play fine on my laptop. So yeah, price was the deciding factor for me.
Thornton Reed
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i honestly was expecting more than that. If i buy gears from the MS store will that appear in my steam library? same with origin?
Chairmanchuck
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Nope, but you can connect them to Non-Steam games to Steam if you want. They just wont have the Steam APIs, so no achievements, cards, Community guides and other Steam (BPM) features.
Some PC guys in here are not helping the cause.
You don't have to act offended when people say they are not interested in your preferred way of playing games and list their reasons. If they are not good reasons to you, that is irrelevant to the discussion.
There have been "why PC gamers wont move to consoles" threads and i just never click the thread because i dont belong.
There's a difference between clarifying misconceptions about PC gaming and being actively hostile or mocking with an elitist attitude.
SmokedMeat
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You're countering with hardware costs. In that battle consoles will be cheaper overall. However PC more then makes up for it in cheaper games and lack of online subscription fees.
Chairmanchuck
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Thats not the point and I can totally get the argument when someone says he doesnt want to configure much or prefers console exclusives.
But usually in those threads people somehow live in the 90s, think you have to sit in front of a monitor, update your GPU drivers every 2 days, fiddle with games till they work, prefer a controller etc.
These arguments are "facts" that are wrong nowadays. Heck. You can even let Windows (and Steam afaik) automatically update your GPU drivers now.
There are huge benefits to PC (free online multiplayer, choice of stores to buy games from and subsequently better sales, can spec to your desired level so can play games on higher graphics settings etc) but I can see the appeal of a console. As someone whose PC gaming was primarily on a laptop I've survived the last few years and had some great experiences, but it's starting to fall behind on specs quite noticeably now, and having just got a PS4 for Christmas there's a comfort in knowing that all games released for it are going to run to a reasonable standard (assuming no major shift to Pro-only games). I don't have to worry about upgrading or not meeting minimum specs etc.
At some point I might end up building a small factor PC to keep near the TV and get it set up for comfy couch gaming and media centre stuff, but without much experience in parting out or building PCs, and with the relatively higher cost, I'm happy just to stick to the PS4 in the meantime. Of course I still have my laptop for any games that come along where I don't need a beast to play them.
At some point I might end up building a small factor PC to keep near the TV and get it set up for comfy couch gaming and media centre stuff, but without much experience in parting out or building PCs, and with the relatively higher cost, I'm happy just to stick to the PS4 in the meantime. Of course I still have my laptop for any games that come along where I don't need a beast to play them.
Supermanisdead
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I have a Mac
Yeah, but there are greater barriers to entry on console than PC, so I don't have to worry if a game won't launch do to not having an exe file.
Not to mention Valve doesn't police early access at all. Plenty of games on there will never be finished and they just let them sit there instead of removing them.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I game on PC (about 50/50 PC/Console TBH) and I still don't game on my PC on the TV / Couch.
Most of my games require a keyboard & mouse, a pain in the ass with couch gaming. (And yes, I've tried all combos of wireless kb with built in trackpad etc, still clunky and horrible).
PC is too big to move back/forth to my TV from my desk, too many cables to unplug / replug if I wanted to do so, risk of damage from moving it, risk of leaks (watercooled) if moved too much etc, can't run an extra long HDMI as I have family to consider using the living room too.
I can see why the PC is at a disadvantage to consoles for some, if I'm gaming on my TV, I'll use one of my consoles, if I want to play a specific PC game, I'll do it at my desk, and that coming from someone who games on PC.
Most of my games require a keyboard & mouse, a pain in the ass with couch gaming. (And yes, I've tried all combos of wireless kb with built in trackpad etc, still clunky and horrible).
PC is too big to move back/forth to my TV from my desk, too many cables to unplug / replug if I wanted to do so, risk of damage from moving it, risk of leaks (watercooled) if moved too much etc, can't run an extra long HDMI as I have family to consider using the living room too.
I can see why the PC is at a disadvantage to consoles for some, if I'm gaming on my TV, I'll use one of my consoles, if I want to play a specific PC game, I'll do it at my desk, and that coming from someone who games on PC.
BareKnuckle
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I play a tonne of local multi in my living room, more than I play single player.
The only game I play online is SFV with my friends who are PC players (Im on PS4) and one of them will always have a forced restart or a driver issue.
You can say that SFV is poorly made for PC but I want to play it, why not play the more stable version?
The only game I play online is SFV with my friends who are PC players (Im on PS4) and one of them will always have a forced restart or a driver issue.
You can say that SFV is poorly made for PC but I want to play it, why not play the more stable version?
CouchMaster
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Using a Macbook.
Again, you can clarify misconceptions and what you feel are big misrepresentations of PC gaming without the implication that its 'fanboying' to not be interested, or make up mocking shitposts like 'lol30fps' or 'lolconsolehasnogames'.
Some people just prefer the ecosystem they are in, some people are fine with performance of games on their preferred platform, and some people just are not interested in the huge amount of steam games or indie titles on the platform as oppose to the console games they are into.
I think people are posting their reasons for not playing on PC in general, not by principle specifically.
If I built a gaming PC I'd want something cutting edge, which of course would cost a lot of money and then be obsolete in 4 years..no thank you.
Console gaming is just easier, I don't have the time, desire or knowledge to build a PC and deal with tweaking settings for each game or hoping a port of a AAA title doesn't run like dogshit. Also my wife wouldn't bother playing a game on a computer it would be too much hassle and she'd lose interest instantly.
But mostly I just don't want to deal with the extra effort and BS of a PC setup and much prefer simple plug and play living room gaming.
Console gaming is just easier, I don't have the time, desire or knowledge to build a PC and deal with tweaking settings for each game or hoping a port of a AAA title doesn't run like dogshit. Also my wife wouldn't bother playing a game on a computer it would be too much hassle and she'd lose interest instantly.
But mostly I just don't want to deal with the extra effort and BS of a PC setup and much prefer simple plug and play living room gaming.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
From that short description, it's pretty clear his GPU is unstable. Most likely from an unstable overclock he tried to apply 😂😂😂😂
No one has been forced a PC since 2015.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
I posted two links to ppl having issues in fall 2016 not the 90s. The guy I quoted didn't reply tho imagine that. Pc gaming isn't as simple as console gaming this is the reality. That's fine if you don't mind troubleshooting issues that seem simple to you because you have delt with it for years but ppl who haven't don't want to start. Why do pc gamers ignore or act like this isn't something that happens. Why not say " yea minor issues occur but we have a great knowledgeable community that will help you so it's not s huge deal" isn't that closer to the truth??
Most don't spend much time on maintenance after the initial build. Much of updating is automated in the same way it is on a PS4. For controllers Steam even supports using a DS4 with tons more configurability should you want it so if you prefer a controller and a couch that is easy to achieve as well.
I play both on a PC and PS4 and the main difference is that PC games run better, look nicer and have more options for controls. I still can't believe how almost no PS4 games use gyro for aiming, it makes such a huge difference in aiming with a controller. I play most games with the Steam Controller nowadays.
CitizenCope
Member
Better exclusives on console IMO.
Mouse and Keyboard, no thanks.
Consoles still easier.
Mouse and Keyboard, no thanks.
Consoles still easier.
Chairmanchuck
Member
I didnt do that and I am aware you dont mean me. Of course its not fanboying to prefer a console. I can totally see the pros of a console compared to a PC.
I just try to show that PC gaming isnt like the 90s anymore and in these threads a lot of people still think it is, it seems.
I never said that PC games never have problems. Heck. Batman ran like shit as well as Dishonored 2. Those ports had a lot of problems. I am just saying that its not really that common anymore. Otherwise you would see threads like "Fix for Doom crashes", "DLL missing in newest Skyrim Remastered port" and stuff like that on GAF far more often.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I'm not, that's the point, so even though I could, I see the disadvantages in doing so.
Plenty of people have PC's and don't use them for gaming, needing to use other shit on them at a desk is a big reason for some.
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I think the biggest thing that consoles have over PC is the social aspect of gaming. Friends and family can join in on the fun. The User Experience is more streamlined and consumer friendly out of the box.
It's also nice from a branding aspect, and with a brand you come to expect polish and quality with their products.
PC can be anything you want them to be, made up of several parts new and used and that is really cool. Once you fiddle with a plethora of options within PC gaming it's hard to go back.
However, consoles do have a purpose here. Nintendo for instance gives us new ways to play a game that you can't get on PC either.
The experience > better graphics.
It's also nice from a branding aspect, and with a brand you come to expect polish and quality with their products.
PC can be anything you want them to be, made up of several parts new and used and that is really cool. Once you fiddle with a plethora of options within PC gaming it's hard to go back.
However, consoles do have a purpose here. Nintendo for instance gives us new ways to play a game that you can't get on PC either.
The experience > better graphics.
This was definitely the biggest barrier and it's frustrating because you are sometimes met with hand waving. There are a billion budget PC/console comparison articles out there but the initial entry into PC gaming is still markedly more expensive. Even with a cheap mouse + keyboard, I don't think it's fair to assume that people just happen to have an old monitor lying around. As far as the OS goes, it's either not acknowledged, or people make not so subtle references to piracy, or that one guy insists on Linux. Then you're met with "you don't have to go expensive, you can just get a budget PC and play 2D indies or older games" but the thing is that my garbage laptop can do that too or I can spend some time tinkering with my tablet.
There's going to be some breaking in pains if you want all the positives of PC gaming. Once you get over that initial hump and you're smart about how you do it, you can piecemeal upgrade and have a very economical machine but that doesn't mean that initial hump doesn't not exist or should be ignored. That doesn't even take into account pricing outside of the US. I just went to newegg.ca and added all the parts from the Budget column from the "I need a new PC" thread. I didn't shop around as best I could but even after picking the cheapest option that search results returned I ended with a build costing $650 CAD pre-tax.
The second was friends. If all my friends are playing a game on device X then I'm going to get device X. It worked better when I was still in school because we could take controllers over to each others houses or share games. Most of my friends have dropped non-Nintendo consoles and I'm slowly moving towards that too.
That I can agree with. I have purchased about 60 games this year on my PC. I paid about 100 bucks on them. Problem is I paid about 200 on ps4 for about 30 games, but the games quality is stronger with my ps4. And as a counter to paid online. I have plus. It's 40 to 50 a year. They give me plenty of games to play as I don't play online. I'm a couch co-op gamer to the core. And with plus discounts and flash sales I've gotten to purchase more AAA games for same price or slightly above the cheap steam games/ humble what have you. I don't think the games are cheaper works as well on PC anymore. Plenty of times this year I bought a game ps4 because it was cheaper than steam.
Oppo
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every year there's a game or 3 i read about that has huge PC technical pains. your Batmen, your Dishonored 2s etc. and it's almost always a game i really enjoyed on console.
i am going to get a new gaming PC this year for the first time in forever, but i am bracing for some harsh disappointments to be honest.
i am going to get a new gaming PC this year for the first time in forever, but i am bracing for some harsh disappointments to be honest.
I don't care about better graphics/60fps or PC exclusives... also I should have to buy and built it to be little enough to be on my room with the tv and couch... so I can't just go out and buy it.
I prefer my PS4, plug&play, game patches itself even with console in standby for when i'm home and no need to configure anything, PSVR for VR games, PSVITA for remote play& other games... perfect. Also comes with many exclusives I like.
I'm pretty satisfied like this and that is the reason.
EDIT:
I add... I have friends that comes to play? They can just take with them their DualShock 4 and play in a minute, no need to configure nothing particular, also have already 2 pad... so also the "social" aspect is very important. It's all ready to play and use... no troubles of any kind to fight with...
Probably is a bit more expensive overall, but in the last years also digital prices are dropping in PSN so it's not like before with steam games much cheaper.
EDIT2:
Standby mode on PSVITA/PS4 is game changing. I can stop playing whenever I want and get back in seconds when I like. Another feature I find necessary now that I have it...
I prefer my PS4, plug&play, game patches itself even with console in standby for when i'm home and no need to configure anything, PSVR for VR games, PSVITA for remote play& other games... perfect. Also comes with many exclusives I like.
I'm pretty satisfied like this and that is the reason.
EDIT:
I add... I have friends that comes to play? They can just take with them their DualShock 4 and play in a minute, no need to configure nothing particular, also have already 2 pad... so also the "social" aspect is very important. It's all ready to play and use... no troubles of any kind to fight with...
Probably is a bit more expensive overall, but in the last years also digital prices are dropping in PSN so it's not like before with steam games much cheaper.
EDIT2:
Standby mode on PSVITA/PS4 is game changing. I can stop playing whenever I want and get back in seconds when I like. Another feature I find necessary now that I have it...
The ecosystem isn't as appealing to the eye. Everything can be convoluted ex: having to update drivers, check if your specs are high enough to run a particular game, the process of upgrading isn't something I want to deal with.
The pros of console also keep me there: easy UI, console exclusives, easy multiplayer parties.
It's not much that holds me back, but I just enjoy how easy it is to play on a console. Yes, PC can be easy too, but I would argue that consoles are always easier.
The pros of console also keep me there: easy UI, console exclusives, easy multiplayer parties.
It's not much that holds me back, but I just enjoy how easy it is to play on a console. Yes, PC can be easy too, but I would argue that consoles are always easier.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
I know ppl who deal with troubleshooting. One of best friend helps ppl online with their issues all the time. This is reality. I've posted links to it happening recently. Plz explain if it doesn't happen who are these non existent ppl asking for help online?
That certainly seems to always end happening in these type of threads lol
There's always that one...
That's definitely true. But on the other hand, it seems like some more enthusiastic PC users feel its their personal duty to defend the PC and look down on those who don't play on PC for whatever reason they may have.
Why are there so many people arguing against console gamers in this thread anyway? People have their reasons, but it feels like a lot of people are trying to sell PC gaming as if they were selling a product when it doesn't need to generally be sold. PC is growing at a very good rate regardless of who feels more comfortable playing on console.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
The fact is it happens. On pc. Consoles don't need troubleshooting to play games because it's a closed system. A lot of ppl prefer that. It's not an excuse or tribalism or lol30fpslol it's I just got off of work after going to school I got 3 hours to game I don't want any possibility that I'll have to spend a hour troubleshooting. At all. Period.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
For me it's laziness. I like to buy something, then not consider it in any way for the next six or seven years. All the PC gamers I know seem to be intimately aware of the shelf life of one component or another in their machines, with plans for further upgrades based on when new processors are out, when a GPU will drop in price and the like. I prefer simple generations, being able to tune out for half a decade and then trading in the old box at the end of it.
I had fun gaming on a PC, but I find these conversations usually end up in hyperbole from each side trying to counter the other - one saying you have to sit at a desk and use kb/m, whilst the other claims PC gaming is as simple as console gaming now; neither statement is remotely true.
I had fun gaming on a PC, but I find these conversations usually end up in hyperbole from each side trying to counter the other - one saying you have to sit at a desk and use kb/m, whilst the other claims PC gaming is as simple as console gaming now; neither statement is remotely true.
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