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[Tubie]

To think 2010-2013 were the final years of Formula 1.

I will always remember 2012 fondly.

RIP

 

[nekkid]

Oh God...I just realised something. Let's hope someone doesn't say, "Bernie was right, this was bad. Let's go with his reverse grid idea".

 

[Bitch Pudding]

This season is already dead to me.

 

[jey_16]

we got next year i guess....rule changes always mix things up a bit

 

[ElTorro]

Everybody is having an existential crisis right now.

Everbody except #blessed.

 

[PdotMichael]

Either they are just scrapping qualifying and do reverse grid stuff or they should just accept that embrace the fact that qualifying will result with the natural speed order of the cars. The "best years" for many people were when we had two long qualifying sessions after all.

Any attempts of making it more "exciting" and introducing chaos elements will just hurt the sports.

 

[Zeknurn]

This has been the best start to a F1 season since 2013.

 

[Lunar FC]

Everybody is having an existential crisis right now.

Qualifying was all we had left to hang on to.

 

[darkinstinct]

Just caught that. Damn, what an awful start and total chaos.

How come the revert didn't go back to commission?

Because that's not making it better. Having two seperate qualifying formats in one qualifying is even more annoying. Just go back to what you had in 2015, there was no need to change it at all. The problems are elsewhere.

 

[Line_HTX]

This is way too short to be a qualifying session of any kind...

=/

 

[+Aliken+]

Man Q1 was so good, but Q2 sucked

And Q3 even worse.

 

[Dilly]

That's what you get when you take one concept in F1 that actually works and make it needlessly complicated.

Not being allowed to talk about strategy over the pit radio is also useless.

This sport is so fucked.

 

[thenexus6]

These new rules are complete bullshit, what a joke.

 

[Tempy]

Feeling pretty good about my predictions based on qualifying.

 

[hamchan]

It sure is fun following this sport isn't it.

 

[brotkasten]

I can't hear this whole "fantastic job by the team" anymore. God, it's so old.

 

[ElTorro]

If sex were like F1, everybody would pull out after three thrusts to save the condom for the next day.

 

[PdotMichael]

If were like F1, everybody would pull out after three thrusts to save the condom for the next day.

The analogy fails because no one would use and trust Pirelli condoms.

 

[nekkid]

If were like F1, everybody would pull out after three thrusts to save the condom for the next day.

I've heard that analogy somewhere before.

 

[Lunar FC]

Girls love the supersofts.

 

[nekkid]

Girls love the supersofts.

No. Full wets.

Obviously.

 

[Line_HTX]

That podium finish is going to be exactly the same the entire season, with the championship detemined way before the USGP.

Fucking puking.

 

[Tubie]

I'm just now hoping for more Q3s where everyone in the top 5 is happy and never even go out and race.

 

[Mascot]

Lol at Hamilton's non-prescription glasses. The man tries far too hard to be cool.

 

[Draconian]

I can't hear this whole "fantastic job by the team" anymore. God, it's so old.

I honestly don't know how anybody can watch the post qualifying press conferences anymore. I mean unless you have insomnia.

 

[spuckthew]

The analogy fails because no one would use and trust Pirelli condoms.

The delaminations would be real.

 

[brotkasten]

I honestly don't know how anybody can watch the post qualifying press conferences anymore. I mean unless you have insomnia.

You're right, but I'm always hoping for some stuff from Ted or good driver snippets.

Lol at Hamilton's non-prescription glasses. The man tries far too hard to be cool.

It's a fashion thing, like his ear blings. It's nothing bad and doesn't hurt anyone.

 

[ElTorro]

The analogy fails because no one would use and trust Pirelli condoms.

But how else can you make sex exciting if not through the anxiety of not knowing whether you are pregnant or not? Everybody has sex for the chaos element. It is known.

 

[darkinstinct]

No. Full wets.

Obviously.

Damn.

 

[Zeknurn]

Williams has done it again? Fucking hell.

 

[massivekettle]

Vettel sounding incredibly dejected with phrases like "it's a long year" and "the car is a good starting point". Haven't even had a first race yet.

Or maybe he's hiding the car's potential.

Ferrari has very strong race pace, so with the qualifying gap massively down, perhaps that also makes them level in terms of race pace.

 

[nekkid]

But how else can you make sex exciting if not through the anxiety of not knowing whether you are pregnant or not? Everybody has sex for the chaos element. It is known.

Things do tend to get exciting when you reverse positions.

 

[Mascot]

It's a fashion thing, like his ear blings. It's nothing bad and doesn't hurt anyone.

It hurts my laughter muscles.

 

[Line_HTX]

I honestly don't know how anybody can watch the post qualifying press conferences anymore. I mean unless you have insomnia.

It's 2:40 AM and even looking at pictures of the post-qualifying pressers on Twitter make me depressed.

 

[nekkid]

Or maybe he's hiding the car's potential.

Ferrari has very strong race pace, so with the qualifying gap massively down, perhaps that also makes them level in terms of race pace.

It's a theory, I guess.

 

[Sloane]

The new qualifying format is interesting in theory but wouldn't it make much more sense if they weren't allowed to pit? So everybody has to drive on the same tires (primes probably) until he's out? The cars getting lighter should make up for the tire degradation.

 

[spuckthew]

No point trying to flog a dead horse.

 

[darkinstinct]

Or maybe he's hiding the car's potential.

Ferrari has very strong race pace, so with the qualifying gap massively down, perhaps that also makes them level in terms of race pace.

I don't know where you guys got the idea that he was downplaying or resignated at all. He said the complete opposite, his words were "There is a gap but we haven't seen the true picture". That's saying they could actually be closer - just chose not to do so because they can't beat the Mercedes.

 

[Juicy Bob]

The new qualifying format is interesting in theory but wouldn't it make much more sense if they weren't allowed to pit? So everybody has to drive on the same tires (primes probably) until he's out? The cars getting lighter should make up for the tire degradation.

It really, really wouldn't.

 

[Sloane]

It really, really wouldn't.

Doesn't it usually work that way during the race?

 

[PdotMichael]

The new qualifying format is interesting in theory but wouldn't it make much more sense if they weren't allowed to pit? So everybody has to drive on the same tires (primes probably) until he's out? The cars getting lighter should make up for the tire degradation.

It would be only "exciting" if you just delete all laps after a timeout and give all drivers the oppurtunity for one lap.

 

[darkinstinct]

The new qualifying format is interesting in theory but wouldn't it make much more sense if they weren't allowed to pit? So everybody has to drive on the same tires (primes probably) until he's out? The cars getting lighter should make up for the tire degradation.

Yes, that would work, except it wouldn't. You're forgetting engine rules, they can't drive as much because the engines have to last four races minimum. Adding what is basically a qualifying race on top ain't gonna work.

 

[Juicy Bob]

Doesn't it usually work that way during the race?

The problem is the tyres. These Pirellis can't be pushed for lap after lap. They lose all perfrmance. You can get two hotlaps out of a new set and then that's it - the performance level has already started to go. This is exactly what we saw today.

 

[nekkid]

Yes, that would work, except it wouldn't. You're forgetting engine rules, they can't drive as much because the engines have to last four races minimum. Adding what is basically a qualifying race on top ain't gonna work.

Plus you simply can't do hot lap after hot lap on those tyres.

 

[aspiegamer]

The new qualifying format is interesting in theory but wouldn't it make much more sense if they weren't allowed to pit? So everybody has to drive on the same tires (primes probably) until he's out? The cars getting lighter should make up for the tire degradation.

The format is perfect. For a video game. It'd require the following to work:
1) Unlimited tyres. All compounds.
2) Equal spacing between all cars.
3) Uniform track conditions for entire sessions.
4) No yellow or red flags, ever.
5) Flying laps still count and/or increase the timers to 2x a lap time so a driver can do an outlap + flying lap when on the bubble (that's the part with increased drama).

A video game can totally screw with things to make that all happen. Reality cannot. This'd work for Formula E or mostly-spec series that has short tracks with <1min laps, or for like a GT series where cars stay on the track for extended periods of time anyway.

Plus you simply can't do hot lap after hot lap on those tyres.

And even if you could it doesn't solve half the problems, but this is the #1 issue.

 

[Elvin Atombender]

This format will probably work even worse on tracks with where laps take 90 seconds or more.

If the elimination clock starts ticking on someone two positions behind and you're in the pits, you're already out as well.

 

[massivekettle]

I don't know where you guys got the idea that he was downplaying or resignated at all. He said the complete opposite, his words were "There is a gap but we haven't seen the true picture". That's saying they could actually be closer - just chose not to do so because they can't beat the Mercedes.

Well... he seemed to be hopeful, but when he started referring to how long the season was and the car's "potential"... he seemed resigned, at least for this GP.

Supersoft will not be the race tyre, therefore they didn't have anything to lose by going out again. They chose not to do so because they probably realized they couldn't beat that time.

The problem is the tyres. These Pirellis can't be pushed for lap after lap. They lose all perfrmance. You can get two hotlaps out of a new set and then that's it - the performance level has already started to go. This is exactly what we saw today.

Actually, don't think you can do more than one proper hotlap on these tyres, especially the Supersoft and the Ultrasofts, which WILL be the qualifying tyres at a number of tracks this season.

Which is ridiculous as this system is effectively rewarding not making mistakes over outright speed. They need to be given more tyres for qualifying only if people want to see these guys out more often.

 

[tomtom94]

Change it so you eliminate two cars at a time every three minutes.

 

[John_B]

What was the point of the Ultra Soft compound for this weekend? Just testing it?

 

[darkinstinct]

Plus you simply can't do hot lap after hot lap on those tyres.

You could work around that. Like do a lap, eliminate the slowest driver, delete lap times, do another lap, eliminate the slowest driver ... If you do it like that and start the qualy race in reverse order of championship standings it could be really interesting. Give them two more engines just for qualifyings over the season and it might actually work.