JadedWriter
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I think if Hamilton finished in Monza and Singapore he would've won that championship or if McLaren knew how to attach a fucking wheel in Hungary. Either way I'd prefer if Vettel had one less championship as well.
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Why though?
It was a rather classic "excellent driver in the fastest car" thing, much like Alonso and Hamilton.
Seb, is that you?
PdotMichael
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How can you even blame Vettel for that thing last race?
JadedWriter
Member
I think Hamilton and Alonso had better "our cars are shit, but lets make the most out of them" years than Vettel. You put either of those two in the 2014 Red Bull and I think they would've done a better job than Vettel.
Hoolkenberg was right!
Suck my balls honey!
*mate
brotkasten
Member
For the accident with Stroll? That seems pretty easy to do it now and even then at the moment, I didn't care if he crashed into Stroll or of Stroll crashed into him. He's in these bullshit situations way too many times. Baku, Singapore and now this. And he's always complaining, just like Grosjean. I cannot hear his shitty whiny voice anymore. I just can't.
DarkJediKnight
Member
This is particularly why I'm ok with Hamilton winning the title. Vettel is showing cracks. He seems like someone who cannot calm down mentally. When Riccardo was troucing him in his final season with Red Bull he did this too. Just dumb decisions.
DarkJediKnight
Member
I agree. I don't rate Vettel as high as Hamilton or Alonso. Alonso nearly won the title with a so so car at Best.
Also, when everything goes right, Vettel is really difficult to beat. He's amazing but I think both nando and ham have done noticeable better job when put in tougher situations.
PdotMichael
Banned
It's always the same story. That people don't get bored repeating them for years, Alonso trashtalks his team everytime he thinks he doesn't deserve it and Hamilton shared telemetry data to prove that Button got the better deal or Mercedes would favour Rosberg.
It doesn't even have to be that complicated: if his tyre didn't blow up in Spain on the penultimate lap he'd have been champion. 2010 was a fucking close season.
JadedWriter
Member
Imagine Vettel in the 2009 McLaren...my god.
I know I'm in the minority but I love how these car sound. Like that wheel spin at 0:52 sounds incredible.
I just wish they would amplify the sound like 10 times for the broadcast.
He already lost his shit in the Ferrari last year, would have a legit breakdown in the 09 McLaren.
JadedWriter
Member
He'd probably just be on the radio randomly babbling and cursing in German. He's never had a car that bad, granted the car won two races, but it must not have been an easy car to drive.
Same for everyone else though...
The start sounds like squirrels having sex. (wow, does the DS Virgins sounds much better than any other or is that me?)
W8 seems to take longer to get right. Wet track means less opportunity it tweak accordingly.
Mohonky
Member
Yeh I dunno that Merc have the fastest car this year, Monza was an obvious outlier, but otherwise the Ferrari has seemingly routinely been the car to have as its just great everywhere.
Vettel should really be leading this championship if it werent for him being such a cucumber......
StopMakingSense
Member
Thats a lot of water.
PdotMichael
Banned
Hamilton and Bottas wouldnt have so many poles if the car isn't at the top of the game.
Mohonky
Member
Pole is one thing, race is another. It was also super quick in 2013 but useless in a race.
Ferrari threw the pole away in Belgium and Malaysia. Since Hungary the Ferrari is clearly the faster car. It was nowhere at Monza but had a massive pace advantage in Hungary, Singapore and Malaysia. The Mercedes was even behind Red Bull in two of those races.
Vettel is definitely in the right car to turn things around.
But is he the right driver? His rage in Baku and lapse of judgement in Singapore cost him the lead in the championship at least as much as technical issues. I'm afraid he'll do more fuckups as the season draws to a close.
Vettel has lost it. He just cruises around hitting things in a permanent state of red mist.
I am going to generalise here, but do Lolberg and Vettel really think that driving like Schmacher is the way to win championships? They all seem to have the same mentality where if they can't win, they crash into everyone else.
endlessflood
Member
Yes, I think they do.
Schumacher proved that driving like Schumacher is the way to win championships.
Hey hey hey. Just refusing to turn in to a corner is a viable tactic, apex are overrated anyway. Even if you do it by accident on purpose twice.
Frankfurter
Member
I see the hate ist strong with some of you guys.
theignoramus
Member
Vettel could be alot closer in the championship if he'd just let Verstappen through in Singapore. That was not a sound tactical decision he made.
Frankfurter
Member
You don't just let someone through at the start. You try to defend P1.
Psychotext
Member
It's been done to death anyway. Under normal circumstances Max would have backed out, but obviously he had no-where to go because of Raikkonen's start.
Mohonky
Member
Honestly I am expecting more like 9th or 10th