Fox Mulder
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Would have been his head without the halo.
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Formula 1 Season 2020 |OT| Drive to Survive 2 - who drinks champagne from a shoe?
Would have been his head without the halo.
J-Roderton
Member
God was riding with that Haas.
Insane crash.
Insane crash.
Nicktendo_
Banned
Yes it would have. Scary to even think about.
StonedRider
Member
Those replays are terrifying for sure!
I did not see fire like this since Jos Verstappen infamous refuelling in 1994.
I did not see fire like this since Jos Verstappen infamous refuelling in 1994.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I take it the petrol tank just went up? I reckon there'll need to be a serious investigation into that.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Jesus. The most memorable thing Grosjean ever did in F1. Bloody miracle he’s okay. Halo proves its worth completely in one single moment.
The best science and engineering you can get. No god required thankfully
The best science and engineering you can get. No god required thankfully
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J-Roderton
Member
Suspected broken ribs. Could have been so much worse.
Nicktendo_
Banned
You seem pleasant.Jesus. The most memorable thing Grosjean ever did in F1. Bloody miracle he’s okay. Halo proves its worth completely in one single moment.
The best science and engineering you can get. No god required thankfully
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Beautiful singing voice too.
Business
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That was brutal. When I saw it live I thought it wasn’t as bad as it looked because I could see the back of the car bouncing away from the barrier and what looked like the center of the fire. But that was assuming the car was whole, I didn‘t image the back of the car we could see was split from the front and the front was stuck piercing the barrier in the very center of the fire. Spent what seemed like an eternity inside there, still amazed he managed to get out by himself.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
It’s not only spearing through the barrier, it’s being engulfed in flames like that. It’s quite incredible. The nomex suit did a fabulous job, as did the halo and the monocoque. Easily the greatest escape in motor racing history. He only has a broken rib and a few mild burns. Jaw dropping.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Good fucking grief, Kyvat is utter clown shoes.
Fox Mulder
Member
Torpedo putting in work today.
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
"Am I fuckng invisible?" - Daniil Kvyat, probably.
J-Roderton
Member
Shit. Gonna have to catch the replay later due to red flag. Hope the race turns out all right.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
After an exciting start, the tedium is returning...
Briefly heard about the crash on the radio, so had to YouTube it (I haven't watched the race yet). Seeing the car explode like that was shocking. You just don't expect to see that happen these days.
It's a miracle that Romain was able survive the impact in order to escape the fire with minor injuries. Imagine if he got KO'd in his seat.
It's a miracle that Romain was able survive the impact in order to escape the fire with minor injuries. Imagine if he got KO'd in his seat.
J-Roderton
Member
That’s a damn shame for Checo. Wow.
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
It izzzzz what it izzz
StonedRider
Member
Yeah. the halo pushed steel rails of the barrier apart, if not halo, it would be Roman's helmet vs steel rails on high speed.
It looks like high speed crash in this place was not expected and this barrier was not designed for it. Car almost pierced through it, marshals were in great danger too.
Can't decide
Member
Just got done watching the race after work. I'm in amazement that Grosjean survived or came out relatively unharmed, that was horrifying. Seeing that shot of him getting out while the flames were engulfing everything had me wondering what if he was knocked unconscious? Would anyone have been able to cope with diving into the intense burning heat and pull him out?
J-Roderton
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StonedRider
Member
I was just thinking what would happen if the car stuck in the barrier, blocking Grosjean evacuation. Actually, so many things could go wrong, it's a miracle he is in good condition.
TTOOLL
Member
That was the most absurd thing I've ever seen on live TV. I was truly scared. How did he not pass out after a crash like that? That's the craziest part if you think about it.
I don't think he'll ever race again, I certainly wouldn't. That was God giving you a second chance, go enjoy your life, family and friends.
I don't think he'll ever race again, I certainly wouldn't. That was God giving you a second chance, go enjoy your life, family and friends.
GHG
Gold Member
The amount of g force during the initial impact with the barrier would have been insane. I still can't quite work out how he didn't get knocked out or maybe it was the amount of heat generated from the fire that kept him conscious?
Also despite it looking horrific (and being the primary cause of the fire), the car splitting in half like that would have helped reduce the amount of energy the survival cell would have had to endure, this ensuring it's structural integrity remained intact.
I also have no doubt that the cockpit being on its side when it came to rest in the barrier would have helped him to both have an easier escape and somewhat protect him from the fire. It will be interesting to get his account of things and how he got out once the dust has settled.
Basically everything that needed to go his way did. If I were him I'd see this incident as a sign and retire from being a driver, he has a family and can still remain connected to motorsports if he wishes to without needing to be a driver.
It was harrowing to witness live, I feared the worst when I saw the initial impact and they refused to show any replays. It's a testament to how far the sport has come that he's come away mostly unscathed.
I hope this is a lesson to everyone, when the FIA want to implement something in the name of safety, everyone should just STFU and let them do their jobs.
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StonedRider
Member
He really should think about his reckless maneuvers on the track first. That's the primary reason of this crash. God forbid him from moving to Indycar with his mindset, his career will be short.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Yep - he does have form for some stupid shit. Glad he survived, hopefully it'll wake up a few drivers to the importance of not driving like a dick.
StonedRider
Member
It's good that the barrier was not made of concrete. Cockpit pierced through steel barrier and pushed parts of it apart. I think, it played a role of a cushion absorbing energy and distributing loss of the momentum through a relatively long time period.
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GHG
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From his on-board I understand why he decided to make the manoeuvre he did as there was a car to his left that needed to rejoin the track and there were 3 or 4 cars directly ahead of him on the left side of the track that had a worse run on to the straight than he did.
However the way he did it is where the problem lies. He didn't move across the track gradually, he did so almost instantaneously which would have caught Kvyat off guard. If he had decided to switch sides in a more controlled manner then Kvyat would have had enough time to see what was going on and take evasive action (slow down or move over slightly to give him more room).
Kvyat was in his blind spot for sure but that's why you're supposed to telegraph your intentions on a race track, so that just in case you've failed to spot another car, they can take the action necessary to avoid an incident.
Yeh I read somewhere yesterday that even the hans device might not have been sufficient if that kind of impact was into a concrete wall due to the g force it would have generated. The hans device works well in conjunction with all of the other safety measures (tecpro, tire barriers, car crumple zones, etc) but dependant on the circumstances it won't always be enough on its own.
StonedRider
Member
Roman reminded me of myself during my second day in driving school 25 years ago, trying to switсh lanes while not knowing mirrors exist. Driving instructor almost killed me afterwards, but everything had ended good. Not a scratch! I still remember the words of wisdom from my instructor "if you don't know what to do - brake, motherfucker!". Roman should visit him someday, the guy sounded very convincing.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
One thing to note:
If a big crash is easily the most memorable thing that happened on the track, in a Formula One season that was sent topsy turvy by a pandemic, then you really do have a problem with what's going on during races.
This sport needs a kick up the fucking arse.
If a big crash is easily the most memorable thing that happened on the track, in a Formula One season that was sent topsy turvy by a pandemic, then you really do have a problem with what's going on during races.
This sport needs a kick up the fucking arse.
Nicktendo_
Banned
Sakhir just got a whole lot more interesting.
Who's going to replace him?
Who's going to replace him?
Lewis Hamilton to miss Sakhir GP after testing positive for coronavirus
World champion Lewis Hamilton will miss this weekend's Sakhir Grand Prix after testing positive for coronavirus.
www.bbc.com
Business
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Sakhir just got a whole lot more interesting.
Who's going to replace him?
Lewis Hamilton to miss Sakhir GP after testing positive for coronavirus
World champion Lewis Hamilton will miss this weekend's Sakhir Grand Prix after testing positive for coronavirus.www.bbc.com
Dream scenario Russell takes the Mercedes and mops the floor with Bottas.
Nicktendo_
Banned
I'd love to see it too, but it looks like it's going to be Vandoorne (do want), Gutierrez (meh), Hulk (yes please) or Russell (yes). In that order. Vandoorne is in Spain testing Formula E now, rumours are he's flying out tonight.
StonedRider
Member
I'd like them to try Russell!
They could compare him to Bottas and for George it's a great chance to prove he's as good as he seems to be.
They could compare him to Bottas and for George it's a great chance to prove he's as good as he seems to be.
StonedRider
Member
Of course she already deleted the tweet, because it's easy to post accusations, but not easy to win an actual court battle.
Young Mazepin is an asshole, but yeah, if you want to accuse somebody, you should present proof, otherwise it's a slander.
J-Roderton
Member
Russ in the Mercedes please.
Fox Mulder
Member
Russell would be the romantic choice, but will probably be Stoffel Vandoorne or Esteban Gutiérrez though.
Williams will want to keep him as they’re still only 3 points behind Haas for last place. Haas is without Grosjean and will look like shit on the outer circuit with a Ferrari engine.
Williams will want to keep him as they’re still only 3 points behind Haas for last place. Haas is without Grosjean and will look like shit on the outer circuit with a Ferrari engine.
GHG
Gold Member
Looks like Palmer agrees with a lot of the things i said about why Grosjean made the move that he did which resulted in his accident.
Nice to see my race driver licence allows me to see things as I should even though I can't be on the track
Yeh he's right, I was taught if in doubt brake. These guys in F1 don't always share that principle though because they are far more experienced and due to the fact that overtaking in F1 is so difficult (which needs to change) so they will take every opportunity they can get even if it's the more risky move.
If he legitimately couldn't see Kvyat in his mirrors due to blind spots then for a start those mirrors need to change or an electronic video mirror system needs to be implemented. The current mirrors in F1 cars are designed with aero in mind first and safety after which is wrong imo.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Having driven a racing car I can tell you now the mirrors are useless due to size and vibrations. Also I didn’t have the insane restraint with the huge side panels etc and even then it was hard to know where other cars but F1 cars have a dreadful seating position which basically makes it impossible to know who’s around you. It’s a miracle they do anything wheel to wheel frankly.
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