Quezacolt
Member
We already did have stuff like that on previous gen, even with open world games, and they honestly were more pleasing to the eyes than this. And were better games too.
Game is fine, the parkour and magic systems are really fun if you're willing to learn how to use them and try the demo for more than 5 minutes.
The main issue I see is that it needs a strong main campaign and story to back it up because the standard open world activities they have created are bound to become repetitive after a few hours like in a Ubisoft game.
vpance
Member
Flutta
Banned
With that type of writing i'm sorry to say but that train is far gone. Only thing left for us to know now is how bad the story actually is. From what i've seen so far i just want to
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I agree. I don't even get where this comes from. From like 11 onward, kids from my generation always wanted to play as cool, badass, mature, heroic characters.
Not these "likeable", relatable, yappy self-insert type characters.
I blame social media for wrongly teaching kids that their opinions matter, and that their reactions and "witty" one-liner hot takes are valued by others.
Doom85
Member
Eh, I'll take Frey over a good deal of the overly edgy leads that preteens/teens from my generation wanted to follow. Give me overly enthusiastic Naruto over "I listen to too much Simple Plan" Sasuke.
And LMAO actually at acting like kids/teens can't have relevant opinions. The fact that a show called Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? was made alone proves a kid can be smarter than some so-called "adults".
Name the plethora of games last gen that had the graphical fidelity of FORSPOKEN and performed just as well.
Google says: Rogue One, After Earth, Star Wars: Rebels and, most surprisingly, The Book of Eli. Feels like a soft lo-fi fantasy tale shouldn't be too hard (especially with the assistance of industry veterans).
Folks are allowed to have their opinions, but a lot of these seem to just be grasping at something, ANYTHING to justify their pre-judging of the game. "I knew it was gonna be bullspit, and gosh I'm so disappointed to see that it is. Every hacky opinion I have about the 'blue haired crowd' has been - once again! - validated. #SadEmoji."
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Hayabusabruh
Member
controls need to be simplified more. Controls are weird.
LavitzSlambert
Member
Interestingly enough I only ran into the dialogue annoyances a few times while playing the demo. It's like seeing what gen X Japanese focus groups think western millennials and gen Z are like. Definitely cringeworthy but I have enough beef with the rest of the game to say "what were they thinking?". I really love the enemy designs and the music is pretty good. That's where the praise stops though.
- The font they use is atrocious. It's literally tHiS fOnT tHaT kIdS lOvE! Everything is also skewed so that you can't just comfortably read a word.
- Menus are useless there is a huge skewed picture, and the text is placed on the bottom left and top right with a bunch of empty space in between. You can't even find a list of spells for your skill tree, you need to scroll between runes (all generic and unrecognizable).
- Combat/world interface is atrocious. Impossible to see anything without scanning with your cuff. Picking things up is more hide and seek than resource management.
- Speaking of resource management, there is a ton of worthless stuff even in the demo. Plenty of plants and shit to grind for, why? To say they have crafting. Wish games would stop with the crafting mechanics, they're terrible.
- Traversal feels awful. Too slow unless you're parkouring, and then it's too responsive (until the animations constantly rip control out of your hands). Forced slow walking in buildings.
- Combat was OK. It seems like you have a lot of options, and I can see where there might be depth if given more time to play. But it felt way too button mashy, and the context sensitive parts did not seem to have any rhyme or reason when they activated. It feels like many games do nowadays, where they have a predetermined result they want you to achieve and then try to "help" you do it. I wish it would just trust the player and stop trying to help me along, it just gets in the way. Maybe it's just me coming from Returnal which is nearly control perfection, but Forspoken Just fought me the whole time.
- Finally, not specific to Forspoken, but the open world is so pointless and empty. Oh look a hut with firewood I can't carry. Thank god that's a landmark on my map. And instead there are impassible cliffs everywhere you look, with a temptation to try and climb before your parkour system glitches out halfway during your ascent. It's clear you are supposed to get more powers and explore more easily, but it just feels tedious and bad. I could deal with it had there been anything of interest to find. I know this is a demo, but shouldn't they include something to hook players and make them interested in continuing?
This game is going to bomb so hard it's going to shake SE's confidence about everything they're working on, at least until we know if FFXVI is awesome or another FFXV.
- The font they use is atrocious. It's literally tHiS fOnT tHaT kIdS lOvE! Everything is also skewed so that you can't just comfortably read a word.
- Menus are useless there is a huge skewed picture, and the text is placed on the bottom left and top right with a bunch of empty space in between. You can't even find a list of spells for your skill tree, you need to scroll between runes (all generic and unrecognizable).
- Combat/world interface is atrocious. Impossible to see anything without scanning with your cuff. Picking things up is more hide and seek than resource management.
- Speaking of resource management, there is a ton of worthless stuff even in the demo. Plenty of plants and shit to grind for, why? To say they have crafting. Wish games would stop with the crafting mechanics, they're terrible.
- Traversal feels awful. Too slow unless you're parkouring, and then it's too responsive (until the animations constantly rip control out of your hands). Forced slow walking in buildings.
- Combat was OK. It seems like you have a lot of options, and I can see where there might be depth if given more time to play. But it felt way too button mashy, and the context sensitive parts did not seem to have any rhyme or reason when they activated. It feels like many games do nowadays, where they have a predetermined result they want you to achieve and then try to "help" you do it. I wish it would just trust the player and stop trying to help me along, it just gets in the way. Maybe it's just me coming from Returnal which is nearly control perfection, but Forspoken Just fought me the whole time.
- Finally, not specific to Forspoken, but the open world is so pointless and empty. Oh look a hut with firewood I can't carry. Thank god that's a landmark on my map. And instead there are impassible cliffs everywhere you look, with a temptation to try and climb before your parkour system glitches out halfway during your ascent. It's clear you are supposed to get more powers and explore more easily, but it just feels tedious and bad. I could deal with it had there been anything of interest to find. I know this is a demo, but shouldn't they include something to hook players and make them interested in continuing?
This game is going to bomb so hard it's going to shake SE's confidence about everything they're working on, at least until we know if FFXVI is awesome or another FFXV.
Fools idol
Banned
played for a bit. This has 6/10 written all over it.
The graphics are gorgeous, mind.
The graphics are gorgeous, mind.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Do don't do that to Noctis, bro. Don't lump him in with Frey.
abstract alien
Member
Honest question. For those that hate it, is it because you think the quality of the game is literally that bad, or is it more because of expectations vs reality? I'm certainly not in love with the game or anything, but I didn't think it was THAT bad. Pretty average I'd say, which isn't saying much for justifying a $70 price tag, but still.
eastcoastkody
Member
there is a nugget of something good here. But if this is an actual part of the real game, id be concerned.
It actually made me more concerned for the Harry Potter game. Because theres no chance that the magic combat in Hogwarts will be as good as this, and even here its not satisfying.
It actually made me more concerned for the Harry Potter game. Because theres no chance that the magic combat in Hogwarts will be as good as this, and even here its not satisfying.
StreetsofBeige
Member
She and the lead character of Hellblade should team up as the Dialogue Duo. They beat enemies by gabbing at them.
The lead character is clearly pondering deep existential questions after vanquishing foes: Why am I here? What is the meaning of all this? Why am I overtaken by this sense of quiet despair? Why is it that during the fight I couldn't stop chattering but now I feel absolutely nothing?
Chronicle
Member
Thank you Denton
Physiognomonics
Member
I don't hate it but I don't like how the game plays. I think the game engine is quite good and shows potential.
semiconscious
Member
nah. repeat ad nauseum battlecry stuff, primarily found in jrpgs, & which only happens during combat sequences, isn't what's being discussed here. whether it's any more or less offensive than what we are talking about is purely subjective (i personally find both to be just about equally irritating)...
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Welcome to my daily life as a father of three girls, two of them teenagers.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
I was hopeful for this game, as the combat appeared good in trailers and showcases, while the writing always seemed terrible. But this was due to Hollywood Z listers from California for some Godforsaken reason being hired to do the writing, while the Japanese devs did everything else. So I was thinking I could play the game with dialogue muted and skipping cutscenes.
Alas, its much worse than I hoped for. There is a glimmer of something good buried under a bunch of horrible decisions, the spells can create interesting combos and the parkouring specifically near places with a lot of jumping (just one in the demo the empty village with many rooftops) functions well if you change the default settings from horrendous to playable. But that is the exception for now I'm afraid. They also seem to think that more spells == better gameplay while the opposite is true. More well refined but fewer spells instead of constant spam would have been so much more enjoyable. Not to mention too much stuff on screen makes it impossible to follow your spells effects and the game also has incredibly boring enemies to fight. Another beyond braindead move is making the enemies drop tiny pellets of loot... in a game consisting of 95% grass fields. It is literally not possible to see the drops vast majority of time.
Another thing, I wish this game was like FFXV, as I love that game, but I will be the first to acknowledge it isn't perfect and was rushed out after being removed from Nomura's 10 year thumb twiddling exercise. People who say the world is like FFXV are nuts, as every location of that game has much more things to discover (though not an immense amount, just much more than this demo) and every location is far more detailed and the world cohesive. FFXV world looks like the tagline, a fantasy based on reality. And to me it works, you have a car that you can drive to places of interest or Chocobos to travel to campsites. Like you would travel in, y'know reality? (not the Chocobo part smartasses, yes I am preempting you) Not every square inch of real life has another shiny object to interact with. But it still constantly had points of interests to travel to and seemed like a fantastical interesting world too. Image below is from FFXV demo on PS4, fittingly.
Forespoken demo area is flat land separated by walls of rock with a few random huts, an empty "castle" and empty "towns" and interactable monoliths to thrown in. That's it, without leaving anything out of the summary. Not to mention the creatures! Every creature can be found everywhere else as everywhere else looks and is the same as every other place. Which again FFXV did absolutely not do, every area had different enemies as they were different places. FFXV also had a time of day and weather system. (Does Forespoken? If anyone here played it long enough lol)
And the "dialogue" and main character...? Less said of her the better. Let me put it this way, worse than the trailers implied.
Alas, its much worse than I hoped for. There is a glimmer of something good buried under a bunch of horrible decisions, the spells can create interesting combos and the parkouring specifically near places with a lot of jumping (just one in the demo the empty village with many rooftops) functions well if you change the default settings from horrendous to playable. But that is the exception for now I'm afraid. They also seem to think that more spells == better gameplay while the opposite is true. More well refined but fewer spells instead of constant spam would have been so much more enjoyable. Not to mention too much stuff on screen makes it impossible to follow your spells effects and the game also has incredibly boring enemies to fight. Another beyond braindead move is making the enemies drop tiny pellets of loot... in a game consisting of 95% grass fields. It is literally not possible to see the drops vast majority of time.
Another thing, I wish this game was like FFXV, as I love that game, but I will be the first to acknowledge it isn't perfect and was rushed out after being removed from Nomura's 10 year thumb twiddling exercise. People who say the world is like FFXV are nuts, as every location of that game has much more things to discover (though not an immense amount, just much more than this demo) and every location is far more detailed and the world cohesive. FFXV world looks like the tagline, a fantasy based on reality. And to me it works, you have a car that you can drive to places of interest or Chocobos to travel to campsites. Like you would travel in, y'know reality? (not the Chocobo part smartasses, yes I am preempting you) Not every square inch of real life has another shiny object to interact with. But it still constantly had points of interests to travel to and seemed like a fantastical interesting world too. Image below is from FFXV demo on PS4, fittingly.
Forespoken demo area is flat land separated by walls of rock with a few random huts, an empty "castle" and empty "towns" and interactable monoliths to thrown in. That's it, without leaving anything out of the summary. Not to mention the creatures! Every creature can be found everywhere else as everywhere else looks and is the same as every other place. Which again FFXV did absolutely not do, every area had different enemies as they were different places. FFXV also had a time of day and weather system. (Does Forespoken? If anyone here played it long enough lol)
And the "dialogue" and main character...? Less said of her the better. Let me put it this way, worse than the trailers implied.
trikster40
Member
Well that's one less game I have to buy in 2023. Combat was horrible, character was super annoying. You basically have to hold Circle the entire time while you're running, the UI was horrible, just overall, just not good.
Seriously, this is the writers in a nutshell:
Sorry Square, better luck next time.
Seriously, this is the writers in a nutshell:
Sorry Square, better luck next time.
Crayon
Member
Holy shit what happened here. This is a mess. The control is just.... The map..... The banter.... Even the graphics.
I don't even know where to begin. This game looked like it had problems but it was showing a little better every time. Well, this is worse than it looked at any point in their showings. There's no amount of time and money that can fix this.
I don't even know where to begin. This game looked like it had problems but it was showing a little better every time. Well, this is worse than it looked at any point in their showings. There's no amount of time and money that can fix this.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I wish the parkour sprint was L3 vs O.
Make O a dedicated dodge.
Make O a dedicated dodge.
semiconscious
Member
someone remember to inscribe this on the current gen's tombstone...
rofif
Banned
Played the demo and here are my technical thoughts first:
-HDR is terrible. Very contrasty and weird. Sky is overblown and you can't even see the back of your character because it's underexposed. wtf
-Stupid Ray Tracing mode. I could not find what it does. It doesn't improve shadows or GI or even reflections. Just reduced game LOD and objects distance visibility... and resolution
-default Quality 30fps mode is unplayable. It's so fucking delayed compared to other better 30fps modes in other games. A NIGHTMARE.
-120hz/40fps or unlocked, I am not sure is fine. Quality looks the best. Ray tracing is stupid. Performance is blurry. I guess it's 1080p.... yikes. but it all plays ok.
-I hate the idea of High quality and RT modes being separate.... like.. nobody wants raw 4k or RT with sacrifices... High quality should be some combined thing... 2 modes and 40fps for those who have 120hz tv. I don't allow more modes.
-Checkerboarding artefacts galore. When you rotate the camera, your character face looks like lego for a split second.
-Graphics look kinda flat and terrible in all modes. Really not impressed.
So all in all - terrible use of 3 bad modes... RT just for the sake of it, terrible 30fps vsynced modes, bad graphics, broken HDR. STAY WINNING
some modes comparison shots:
RT and performance modes got such a bad object lod and distance, it's not worth enabling... either use Quality 120hz or performance mode. RT is pointless
edit: I've not experienced the demo... I was so annoyed by the modes and their redundancy that I quit for today... fuck this modes crap. I feel like I have to wait for DF video since no mode is good enough... and bad hdr. This is really bad
-HDR is terrible. Very contrasty and weird. Sky is overblown and you can't even see the back of your character because it's underexposed. wtf
-Stupid Ray Tracing mode. I could not find what it does. It doesn't improve shadows or GI or even reflections. Just reduced game LOD and objects distance visibility... and resolution
-default Quality 30fps mode is unplayable. It's so fucking delayed compared to other better 30fps modes in other games. A NIGHTMARE.
-120hz/40fps or unlocked, I am not sure is fine. Quality looks the best. Ray tracing is stupid. Performance is blurry. I guess it's 1080p.... yikes. but it all plays ok.
-I hate the idea of High quality and RT modes being separate.... like.. nobody wants raw 4k or RT with sacrifices... High quality should be some combined thing... 2 modes and 40fps for those who have 120hz tv. I don't allow more modes.
-Checkerboarding artefacts galore. When you rotate the camera, your character face looks like lego for a split second.
-Graphics look kinda flat and terrible in all modes. Really not impressed.
So all in all - terrible use of 3 bad modes... RT just for the sake of it, terrible 30fps vsynced modes, bad graphics, broken HDR. STAY WINNING
some modes comparison shots:
RT and performance modes got such a bad object lod and distance, it's not worth enabling... either use Quality 120hz or performance mode. RT is pointless
edit: I've not experienced the demo... I was so annoyed by the modes and their redundancy that I quit for today... fuck this modes crap. I feel like I have to wait for DF video since no mode is good enough... and bad hdr. This is really bad
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Isa
Member
Well I bit the bullet preordered after finally trying the demo. Played with my girlfriend who was enthralled. I suspect its partly due to the more feminine aspects which is actually pretty cool. Not something one sees much. I also suspect that the characters will grow over time as we are only seeing the early stages of the game, though granted sometimes Frey can be a bit much. I was able to stomach her after a bit and more new lines started appearing and I really like the Grimoire guy, he has some funny sarcastic remarks and commentary. The world is mostly fun to explore, I found myself just roaming around having fun though like mentioned I can see it getting old if the story isn't there. I like the old orthodox style sanctuary, the art is nice. Its fun messing with the magic and styles as well as finding weaknesses or even switching to magic the foes aren't weak to but you can group foes together. In one big fight I blasted a harpy creature into the side of a house that gave off a nice little flat cracked texture lol til it disappeared.
Anyway it was pretty fun for us, and my gf was able to easily beat the chest puzzles lol I was struggling. Played with Raytracing mode and though it looked good, not quality like the reveal but still not bad. The movement is sluggish at first and the controls take a moment to adjust to but when it clicked I was naturally using most of my moves in and out of battle with general ease. I expected to dislike it but found myself playing through to the end and looking forward to its release which is fairly soon. I still wish that Agni demo was made manifest however. Maybe one day.
Anyway it was pretty fun for us, and my gf was able to easily beat the chest puzzles lol I was struggling. Played with Raytracing mode and though it looked good, not quality like the reveal but still not bad. The movement is sluggish at first and the controls take a moment to adjust to but when it clicked I was naturally using most of my moves in and out of battle with general ease. I expected to dislike it but found myself playing through to the end and looking forward to its release which is fairly soon. I still wish that Agni demo was made manifest however. Maybe one day.
LavitzSlambert
Member
Playing this on my OLED and I couldn't help but notice how the back of my character had zero level of detail, just pure black that phased in and out of existence. I never notice stuff like that, and even games like RE2make that were super dark had some level of detail you could see. Meanwhile the character turns away from the camera in broad daylight, and everything disappears, this is ridiculous.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Plays like a wannabe Infamous with music that belongs in hogwarts and with a uninspiring character that curses.
Big mixture=big mess.
Nice of them to offer a demo though.
Big mixture=big mess.
Nice of them to offer a demo though.
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Crayon
Member
"seemed like a waste of time"
"Boring"
"Well there was nothing in there"
Why is she saying these things lol.
Did you notice how to climb frey-height ledge you basically dash and rub into it for a split second before she decides to bicycle kick or can-can, whatever onto it?
The movement system as a whole is what really kills this game. I have played many just-okay games that had good control. Games where you run around and kill trash mobs but its just nice to press buttons. But there are decisions with the handling here that feel downright unatural. As if someone did not know what they were doing when designing it.
Like why does the dash-run need to reboost itself on this rhythm while I'm holding it tu get across these essentially featureless distances? This would be a nitpick on it's own but I think it illustrates the little failures of feedback that add up.
Have you ever tried a level editor and started plopping things on the map without a lot of thought and wondered why it wasn't fun?
I just put on hfw after a few months and back to back it's rediculous. It's not my favorite game but holy shit if you dare behold the difference in control, map layout, quasi-shooter mechanics, graphics, environmental art, enemy patterns, action legibility, on and on. Considering both are going for the same genre and both cost a stupid amount of money and time. Good lord the difference in every single aspect.
Btw I'm playing horizon rn and I swear aloy chatting is the worst thing about it. Actually the branching conversations are right behind so the whole game just needs to stfu.
Things I liked:
- I am fond of Frey's pretty cloaks and comfortable shoes.
-the tap/hold rhythm of the magic attacks was going in a good direction. This is something that might keep getting better after more time for a game to become familiar and open up.
-i like her non-boost running animation. It's refreshingly realistic and we could all use a gentle jog here and there so 10/10 on that would hold forward again.
"Boring"
"Well there was nothing in there"
Why is she saying these things lol.
Did you notice how to climb frey-height ledge you basically dash and rub into it for a split second before she decides to bicycle kick or can-can, whatever onto it?
The movement system as a whole is what really kills this game. I have played many just-okay games that had good control. Games where you run around and kill trash mobs but its just nice to press buttons. But there are decisions with the handling here that feel downright unatural. As if someone did not know what they were doing when designing it.
Like why does the dash-run need to reboost itself on this rhythm while I'm holding it tu get across these essentially featureless distances? This would be a nitpick on it's own but I think it illustrates the little failures of feedback that add up.
Have you ever tried a level editor and started plopping things on the map without a lot of thought and wondered why it wasn't fun?
I just put on hfw after a few months and back to back it's rediculous. It's not my favorite game but holy shit if you dare behold the difference in control, map layout, quasi-shooter mechanics, graphics, environmental art, enemy patterns, action legibility, on and on. Considering both are going for the same genre and both cost a stupid amount of money and time. Good lord the difference in every single aspect.
Btw I'm playing horizon rn and I swear aloy chatting is the worst thing about it. Actually the branching conversations are right behind so the whole game just needs to stfu.
Things I liked:
- I am fond of Frey's pretty cloaks and comfortable shoes.
-the tap/hold rhythm of the magic attacks was going in a good direction. This is something that might keep getting better after more time for a game to become familiar and open up.
-i like her non-boost running animation. It's refreshingly realistic and we could all use a gentle jog here and there so 10/10 on that would hold forward again.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
The materials and lighting remind me of GTA V. It's like PS3 quality lighting. Everything looks flat and boring.
gothmog
Gold Member
I decided to give it another shot and went through the whole demo. Something must have clicked because I like it. Once you get used to the combat and parkour system it flows nicely. You feel like a badass as you charge into a group of enemies mowing them down with the sword.
Not sure if I would buy it on day 1 but it is definitely on my list of something to watch. I'm kinda hoping that the game will feel less overwhelming when you start with only a few skills. Just looking at the controls I was really confused at first. The chatterbox character and bracelet I largely ignored. The crafting and upgrade system seemed interesting as well.
Not sure if I would buy it on day 1 but it is definitely on my list of something to watch. I'm kinda hoping that the game will feel less overwhelming when you start with only a few skills. Just looking at the controls I was really confused at first. The chatterbox character and bracelet I largely ignored. The crafting and upgrade system seemed interesting as well.
StreetsofBeige
Member
Game has a 24 month exclusivity deal on PS. That's a super long deal. On the plus side, it'll probably be a day one Game Pass game in 2025. lol
Toots
Member
Played the whole demo in one sitting (with a pause halfway through), so it did not bore me.
It is a weird choice from the devs to just throw you into the game with a "tutorial" that is more confusing than helping, but when you start understanding things a bit more combat gameplay is fun.
I did not find the game beautiful, but it is not ugly neither, and overall the dialogue between the girl and the cuff did not bother me, they weren't tazlking non stop in my palythrough.
Definitely not a 80 bucks game, but i'll get it for 50 first time i have a chance (hopefully a month after launch or so)...
It is a weird choice from the devs to just throw you into the game with a "tutorial" that is more confusing than helping, but when you start understanding things a bit more combat gameplay is fun.
I did not find the game beautiful, but it is not ugly neither, and overall the dialogue between the girl and the cuff did not bother me, they weren't tazlking non stop in my palythrough.
Definitely not a 80 bucks game, but i'll get it for 50 first time i have a chance (hopefully a month after launch or so)...
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hopefully, It wont come to xbox, no one wants it. Why bother porting it lol.
GymWolf
Member
What problems do you have? Maybe i can help a bit.
GymWolf
Member
If you only press 0 once it act like a dodge, l3 is already occupied for the non-magic run.
My biggest gripe with button config is having the normal attack button in the trigger instead of R1, if it is okay for ranged, it feels strange for melee.
Hopefully the final game is gonna have a button remap option.
Hayabusabruh
Member
well I hate weapon wheels in general. Pressing both bumpers just to switch what kinda spell you want, then cycling through with the left stick and your main attacks being triggers is just too much. Would rather attack with face buttons and change weapons or spell with a dpad. The combat itself feels fine it just feels kinda like driving with your feet. (It's early. My analogy game is weak right now.)
OsirisBlack
Banned
I uninstalled it but if I remember correctly you can quickly change spells by pressing either left or right on the D pad.
oji-san
Banned
Played the demo yesterday and had fun with it, Played the performance mode and it didn't looked bad to me, was good enough and smooth so that's the mode i'll play on full game. I think the game represent what we see in gameplay vids, i got exactly what i saw before playing and i like it, many magic options and cool traversal.
2 things that bothered me are HUD and menus, like they choose to make the menus/HUD cool and arty on the expanse of clarity and that what i want the most in HUD etc, not to squint my eyes to understand what's going on. Other thing is that i would prefer not to hold the circle button in order to sprint, make it with the regular L3 would be much appreciated.
2 things that bothered me are HUD and menus, like they choose to make the menus/HUD cool and arty on the expanse of clarity and that what i want the most in HUD etc, not to squint my eyes to understand what's going on. Other thing is that i would prefer not to hold the circle button in order to sprint, make it with the regular L3 would be much appreciated.
OsirisBlack
Banned
The game is middling in every aspect its probably about a 5/10 for me. Not horrible but nothing more than average at best. Not even based on expectations as I really didn't expect much from this game I just wanted it to be good.
The open world is completely lifeless and the only thing you do in the demo is run from one group of monsters to the next in a barren world. It just wasn't fun. The combat felt off to me at least especially with the constant attacking with the right trigger it just feels wrong. Graphics are definitely downgraded from what they showed early on unless that is directly PC footage but I believe it did say captured on PS5. The movement also felt off.
I won't get into the character as once I found out you could limit her talking she isn't as bad. But for that to be her default it sure does lean heavily into random Eff bombs.
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GymWolf
Member
I have a partial solution.
You can change type of magic with the dpad left or right or swiping the touchpad, so no more bumper press.
Then turn on the option that chose automatically an attack that is not in cooldown so you can always have a charge attack ready almost all the time.
Of course if you have a favourite skill and you always want to use that one they have cooldowns like any game based on cooldowns so there is no solution for that, but the cooldowns for the attack i use the most (the stone machine gun and stone bomb and the fire punches and fire spear and fire sword) the cooldown are super fast, like 2-3 sec fast so it should not be a problem, you also have an equipment that make recharge way faster, can't remember if it is nails or cape or the necklace.
The support magic has slower cooldown so the game automatically switching to the one that is not in cooldown should be more helpful.
You can also charge to level 3 (if you upgrade the skills in the magic menu) by doing this
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GymWolf
Member
I think the system work exactly like infamous with the neon run, a brief touch to evade, hold to run, both game have that on the O button.
Always moving at that speed would be bad in small spaces or when you need a bit more precision, for me it was a good choice to have a normal run and magic faster run, but i can understand not liking the button position.
But yeah hopefully they are gonna let you remap the buttons in the final game (i think ps5 can do that on a system level)
The PS5 system button mapping is not as good as it game button mapping imo. I dont like how it changes the buttons for everything.
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GymWolf
Member
Never tried the ps5 one, i was just brainstorming trying to help you out
SkeletonQuays
Member
so I haven't played this yet but do you guys think if the devs nuked the extraneous self banter it would improve the experience? Or is the gameplay deeply flawed as well?
rofif
Banned
The music is supergeneric magic too. Like if I typed "magic music" in google lol.
I am still not flagging the game crap just yet though. Can't be worse than Callisto protocol.
Not sure about analcrapista. Performance mode don't look 1440p. It's very blurry
and 4k 30fps modes are extremely slow to control
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GymWolf
Member
I know i said that the enemies were not detailed enough, but it must be an effect of the poor res that make everything look a bit meh, but when you actually go in the enemy gallery, the models are pretty decent for an open worl, their design is pretty generic tho, especially the mutated animals.
Even her model is not half bad under the right light
Even her model is not half bad under the right light
BbMajor7th
Member
I think the art direction is letting the side down here. From a technical perspective, this is a step above something like Elden Ring, but the art direction makes it look significantly less impressive. That said, it still looks distinctly Gen 8 when you stack it beside something like Horizon Forbidden West.I know i said that the enemies were not detailed enough, but it must be an effect of the poor res that make everything look a bit meh, but when you actually go in the enemy gallery, the models are pretty decent for an open worl, their design is pretty generic tho, especially the mutated animals.
Even her model is not half bad under the right light