Forspoken has been delayed to January 24, 2023

Ah right, didn't you make those review threads where you kept going on about how incompetent and bad IGN, Gamespot etc. are?

And here you are saying a game is shit without having played it.
Yes IGN and Gamespot are incompetent and will continue to be so and I will always strongly stand by that.

I have enough experience to tell a game will blow from miles away. You must have not seen the footage of this game or something. Where the protagonist comments every single moment during combat, awful framerate and the whole loop seems to feel stale and repetitive based on what i saw.

This game will be receiving mediocre scores unless they drastically improve these aspects by the release.

But anyway, it seems like you just want to continue roasting me. So go-ahead throw in another snarky reply ;)
 
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Forspoken was scheduled to release October 2022. One month before Ragnarok. There was no conflict. Not sure why this is being cited multiple times.
It's SE's own game release schedules. We already know Sony locked this game down for 2 years minimum (they would be the partners considering exclusivity and marketing) and Square isn't going to launch a large new IP to die in the scramble.
 
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It's SE's own game release schedules. We already know Sony locked this game down for 2 years minimum (they would be the partners considering exclusivity and marketing) and Square isn't going to launch a large new IP to die in the scramble.

I have no idea how this is a relevant response to what I said earlier.
Forspoken was scheduled to release a month before Ragnarok. That's not a 'scramble'. It's a month!

GT7 was released a month after Horizon FW. Did it 'die in the scramble'?
 
I have no idea how this is a relevant response to what I said earlier.
Forspoken was scheduled to release a month before Ragnarok. That's not a 'scramble'. It's a month!

GT7 was released a month after Horizon FW. Did it 'die in the scramble'?
You just ignored where I said it's SE's OWN game release schedule. It's not JUST GoW.
 
Yes IGN and Gamespot are incompetent and will continue to be so and I will always strongly stand by that.

I have enough experience to tell a game will blow from miles away. You must have not seen the footage of this game or something. Where the protagonist comments every single moment during combat, awful framerate and the whole loop seems to feel stale and repetitive based on what i saw.

This game will be receiving mediocre scores unless they drastically improve these aspects by the release.

But anyway, it seems like you just want to continue roasting me. So go-ahead throw in another snarky reply ;)

I couldn't care less about roasting you. But you call other reviewers trash and then say this game is shit before having played a single second of it. That just sounds pretty funny to me.

Whatever, we'll see. I don't have very high expectations either but you never know, we really haven't seen much apart from some quick cut combat and traversal.
 
I couldn't care less about roasting you. But you call other reviewers trash and then say this game is shit before having played a single second of it. That just sounds pretty funny to me.

Whatever, we'll see. I don't have very high expectations either but you never know, we really haven't seen much apart from some quick cut combat and traversal.

They showed some story stuff in regards to the character and the actress. Then after that some gameplay with atrocious framerate.

I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would be okay with showing off gameplay when your game is performing below 30 fps and is showing obvious stutters. 3specially when you are trying to showcase new gen systems. That's just asking for trouble and kills the hype.

Either A) The developers were forced too by the publisher or B) Both are just idiots and think they got a winner on their plate.

Like I said, the game will need to overcome the fps issues and be polished up to the stars. This is not me trying to say graphics is the most important thing, but a good performance makes the game much more enjoyable.

The combat reminds me a bit too much of FF15 and I wasn't a very big fan of that. The Luminous engine is also an outdated hot turd. FF15 had framerate issues as well, it was a good looking game but in some places it looked absolutely awful.

There was a reason why FF7 Remake and KH3 ended up using UE4 and not Luminous. KH4 is going to be using UE5 and I am pretty positive FF7 Rebirth is also on UE5.

Thr story setup to me also sounds kind of weird to me. Here is the official description.

Forspoken follows the journey of Frey, a young New Yorker transported to the beautiful and cruel land of Athia. In search of a way home, Frey must use her newfound magical abilities to traverse sprawling landscapes and battle monstrous creatures.

This sounds like some cringy teenager drama type shit. But hey....Amy Hening is one of the writers and Amy is quite amazing. So maybe they could do an interesting story.
 
They showed some story stuff in regards to the character and the actress. Then after that some gameplay with atrocious framerate.

I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would be okay with showing off gameplay when your game is performing below 30 fps and is showing obvious stutters. 3specially when you are trying to showcase new gen systems. That's just asking for trouble and kills the hype.

Either A) The developers were forced too by the publisher or B) Both are just idiots and think they got a winner on their plate.

Like I said, the game will need to overcome the fps issues and be polished up to the stars. This is not me trying to say graphics is the most important thing, but a good performance makes the game much more enjoyable.

The combat reminds me a bit too much of FF15 and I wasn't a very big fan of that. The Luminous engine is also an outdated hot turd. FF15 had framerate issues as well, it was a good looking game but in some places it looked absolutely awful.

There was a reason why FF7 Remake and KH3 ended up using UE4 and not Luminous. KH4 is going to be using UE5 and I am pretty positive FF7 Rebirth is also on UE5.

Thr story setup to me also sounds kind of weird to me. Here is the official description.



This sounds like some cringy teenager drama type shit. But hey....Amy Hening is one of the writers and Amy is quite amazing. So maybe they could do an interesting story.
Aren't you a bethesda fanboy? They showed starfield, a much much MUCH bigger game than forspoken with uneven framerate and alpha state gunplay, i guess it was ok for bethesda to do that, right? (Sorry if i thinking about another guy that isn't you)

People are unhappy when they show fake vertical slice but they are also mad when the game is showed in alpha\beta state.

Devs can't really win.
 
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"Strategic decision" = LOL ain't nobody stupid enough to launch a single player game less than a month away from God of War


I'm actually curious about this title on a technical level because it's supposed to be the first title to use DirectStorage. It should be the first ever game on PC with <3s loading times, and that's pretty neat.
Wait, I thought the PS5s loading was nothing special and any gen 4 pcie SSD would do the same on pc even at launch in 2020.
 
I'm not sold on this game at all yet. The whole "dump a modern day person into a fantasy world" trope is not really my thing. The performance of the footage shown wasn't exactly smooth either. At least they toned down the excessive cussing. I'll wait for the reviews on this one, well the unbiased ones anyway.
 
I'm not sold on this game at all yet. The whole "dump a modern day person into a fantasy world" trope is not really my thing. The performance of the footage shown wasn't exactly smooth either. At least they toned down the excessive cussing. I'll wait for the reviews on this one, well the unbiased ones anyway.
To me it reminds me of infamous so I'm excited.
 
Aren't you a bethesda fanboy? They showed starfield, a much much MUCH bigger game than forspoken with uneven framerate and alpha state gunplay, i guess it was ok for bethesda to do that, right? (Sorry if i thinking about another guy that isn't you)

People are unhappy when they show fake vertical slice but they are also mad when the game is showed in alpha\beta state.

Devs can't really win.
Ehhh I wouldn't really call myself a Bethesda fanboy and I see what you are saying. But correct me if I am wrong, I don't remember seeing Starfield's footage going below 30 fps or having rather noticeable stutters.

Also, Bethesda is different because they make absolutely gigantic games. This is might sound hypocritical but Bethesda over the decades have developed a "Bethesda Jank" which gives a so called "charm" charm to their games. I know this sounds funny and weird, but some would I agree.

Also, for the record I think Skyrim is overrated, I've tried to get into it so many times and just got super bored. I can see why people like it though. The only Bethesda game I've ever finished and did 100% with a platinum trophy was Fallout 3 on the PS3. You decide if I am a Bethesda fanboy or not.

Not sure if Starfield is a good comparison to Forspoken. Those are complete polar opposites. You are essentially comparing apples to oranges here imo.

Starfield is a slow-paced and more methodical RPG that takes times and focuses on exploration and deep storytelling. Forspoken is more of an action game where you traverse at much higher speeds and combat is way more fast paced.

Will Starfield run at 60 fps? I highly doubt it, and I don't think it really needs to because of the way it's designed. Would I prefer 60fps? Of course! But idk if it will happen on the console side of things. PC sure.

Can Forspoken get away with 30 fps? Absolutely not, the game's initial fast paced traversal and combat would feel atrocious. The game is dead on arrival if it only has a 30fps mode imo.

Imagine playing a racing or fighting game at 30 fps. I would never play that. Anyway, I hope this answers your question.
 
Hoping this one co.es together. The showing were getting better but the whole thing was still looking messy.
 
Ehhh I wouldn't really call myself a Bethesda fanboy and I see what you are saying. But correct me if I am wrong, I don't remember seeing Starfield's footage going below 30 fps or having rather noticeable stutters.

Also, Bethesda is different because they make absolutely gigantic games. This is might sound hypocritical but Bethesda over the decades have developed a "Bethesda Jank" which gives a so called "charm" charm to their games. I know this sounds funny and weird, but some would I agree.

Also, for the record I think Skyrim is overrated, I've tried to get into it so many times and just got super bored. I can see why people like it though. The only Bethesda game I've ever finished and did 100% with a platinum trophy was Fallout 3 on the PS3. You decide if I am a Bethesda fanboy or not.

Not sure if Starfield is a good comparison to Forspoken. Those are complete polar opposites. You are essentially comparing apples to oranges here imo.

Starfield is a slow-paced and more methodical RPG that takes times and focuses on exploration and deep storytelling. Forspoken is more of an action game where you traverse at much higher speeds and combat is way more fast paced.

Will Starfield run at 60 fps? I highly doubt it, and I don't think it really needs to because of the way it's designed. Would I prefer 60fps? Of course! But idk if it will happen on the console side of things. PC sure.

Can Forspoken get away with 30 fps? Absolutely not, the game's initial fast paced traversal and combat would feel atrocious. The game is dead on arrival if it only has a 30fps mode imo.

Imagine playing a racing or fighting game at 30 fps. I would never play that. Anyway, I hope this answers your question.
The starfield video didn't had perfect framerate, many people noticed it.

And please, don't let me start on the "bethesda charmy jank" or i get a week ban, always sounded like the most pathetic excuse, and then you see the same people probably shitting on indies, aa and stuff like elex.

Sure a poor showing does no favor to the game, but except for fake vertical slices, isn't usually what we see for almost any game? Even big game like halo infinite had some shitty showing.

At least we have a basic idea of how the game really is, you even have a final opinion without even playing the game, would you prefer a fake vertical slice for forspoken?

This is the state of the game right now, we have to deal with it (and they had the brain to postpone launch instead of releasing something broken)

Jesus dude, you made defend fucking square enix of all studios, that's bad on some many levels :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
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I'm going to start referring to white people as uncolored people. I'll still call black people black people, but I like to take the road less traveled.

Also, this game looks cool enough, but it has "pretty turd capitalizing on what Japanese people think is relevant social politics in the west," and "Jesus Christ, we need to make some kind of money on FFXV's ridiculous engine or it's hari Kari time," -the game....written all over it.

Will still probably buy it.

Three years from now.

For $20.

In the "Strong black women in gaming," showcase.
Wait, its political…because the protagonist is a black woman? So by your standards, any game with a straight white dude is not political? Jfc….
 
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Yikes, not to be a debbie downer but when watching Resident Evil I can't say I'm convinced about the main actors acting chops…

Sorry for the bump, I just had to get it out of my system
 
The game seems like it's already very polished as it is, hopefully they use the time to add more flourish and personality to the open world. Will probably play it anyway, especially if it comes to PS+ at some point.
 
The Luminous engine is also an outdated hot turd. FF15 had framerate issues as well, it was a good looking game but in some places it looked absolutely awful.

There was a reason why FF7 Remake and KH3 ended up using UE4 and not Luminous. KH4 is going to be using UE5 and I am pretty positive FF7 Rebirth is also on UE5.

Gotta love the armchair analysis on this one, especially considering KH3 despite being a linear game with static pre-baked lighting & shadows also suffered from horrible frame pacing issues even worse than the ps4 version of FFXV. The xbo versions of FFXV was actually pretty stable with zero frame-pacing issues.

VII-R was initially developed by cyberconnect who chose UE4 because they already had experience with UE, and that game had a considerably longer dev time than FFXV and wasn't even ambitious. It was literally a bunch of highly linear corridor levels with horrible texture and geometry, 2D jpeg backdrops, with game design and summons that would have worked in the PS2 era. And literally all of their performance/optimization efforts were put towards a single platform since the game was exclusive and they didn't need to worry about porting to a base XBO in the same time frame.

Nevermind the fact that co-developing an engine alongside multiple titles is what lead SE into problems with crystal tools, so it was recommended by the CTO at the time to co-develop Luminous with only FFXV.


 
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