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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Truespeed
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ShapeGSX said:Well, first of all, it stops everything and it runs the crash in super slow motion.I'm not sure that's an option in a 60fps simulator. I do seem to remember that rollovers can run at full speed, though. Those are probably not as demanding as the full on crushing that the front of the car can get in slow motion, though.
Besides this, though, licensed car manufacturers simply won't allow the kind of destruction that Burnout does to their cars in a game. If you were Ford, would you want a game showing your car crumpling like an accordion? Hell, Turn 10 only just convinced them to let cars roll over!
Ya, but you know why they play it in super slow mo - it's because it gives us more time to appreciate the destruction and they know it. But, ya, it would be nice if they buried the option to crash in real time somewhere in the menu. I'm just wondering if there's any randomness to the Burnout crashes or all they all just scripted.
Also, if I was in charge of Ford, GM or Chrysler I would be pleading with PD, T10 and Criterion to do whatever they want to my cars. These companies need the exposure because their commercials certainly aren't doing the job.
theignoramus
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Alex Fry (senior engineer Criterion Games)Truespeed said:
"Paradise really did not stress the CPUs of these consoles. There's an awful lot of room left."
Opus Angelorum
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Destructoid said:
Your move PD.
shpankey said:
No problem. You aren't the first to think that.
It's really hard to keep up with all the different racing sims. Although, I've gravitated to the PC sims, because I'm most interested in very competitive racing, I've had a lot of fun on console titles too.Many PC sim fans don't give the console sims much credit and many of the console fans don't realize what many of the PC sims have to offer.
iRacing has quite a few Forza and Gran Turismo fans, but it's hard to go back to racing with 8 people online when you've gotten used to up to 43. Bigger fields aren't necessary to have fun, but running at Daytona or Watkins Glen or Indianapolis with 8 drivers just isn't the same as a full field.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Console sims tend (big generalization coming) to focus on ambiance, atmosphere, graphics and fun. PC sims tend to focus on physics and realism. Console sims are fun, PC sims are fun too, but with less fanfare and more focused on physics.
iRacing is probably the most hardcore. It's expensive and very competitive. It's collected more of the best PC sim racers all in one place. I've been in competitive sports all my life, so I want to be tested against the best. Thus, even though iRacing is very expensive it's where I spend most of my time.
ResidentDante
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New GT5 crash vid up! Nice! You can actually see the driver inside!
GT5 is my most anticipated game of all time, but I just ordered a 360 Elite for Forza 3. They are both amazing games in different areas and if you own both consoles, are a petrol head and don't get both... i don't know what to tell you.
I can't wait to experience the best that both of these games have to offer.
I can't wait to experience the best that both of these games have to offer.
Ultimo hombre
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TylerD said:
Wrong thread dude.
Jack B said:No problem. You aren't the first to think that.
Many PC sim fans don't give the console sims much credit and many of the console fans don't realize what many of the PC sims have to offer.
iRacing has quite a few Forza and Gran Turismo fans, but it's hard to go back to racing with 8 people online when you've gotten used to up to 43. Bigger fields aren't necessary to have fun, but running at Daytona or Watkins Glen or Indianapolis with 8 drivers just isn't the same as a full field.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Console sims tend (big generalization coming) to focus on ambiance, atmosphere, graphics and fun. PC sims tend to focus on physics and realism. Console sims are fun, PC sims are fun too, but with less fanfare and more focused on physics.
iRacing is probably the most hardcore. It's expensive and very competitive. It's collected more of the best PC sim racers all in one place. I've been in competitive sports all my life, so I want to be tested against the best. Thus, even though iRacing is very expensive it's where I spend most of my time.
Pretty much. Loooooveee iRacing. And also like GT and Forza.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Chinner said:
:lol :lol :lol
Best comment this thread has produced by far. Chinner - my man.
Fun Factor
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TylerD said:GT5 graphix kick Forza 3's graphix in the nuts. Is that better?
That video interview in gamtrailers with GT5 playing in the back didn't look as impressive as the pics shown. Just watching that video, I would assume they are just replaying GT3.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
The ISR review pretty much said the same thing - if they didn't already own 360s, they'd buy one and a wheel setup just for Forza.Jack B said:
100% cosmetic is a joke. Actual damage that tweaks the cars performance? It's there but very basic. You're not going to be getting varying degrees of anything. But I'm not saying GT5 will be any better with this kind of damage. I'm really glad it's there in Forza 3, but it's predictable and very basic. At least from my time with the demo. But I'm sure people who have spent more time with the game can easily back me up or dispel what I'm saying.
XiaNaphryz said:
skulpt said:100% cosmetic is a joke. Actual damage that tweaks the cars performance? It's there but very basic. You're not going to be getting varying degrees of anything. But I'm not saying GT5 will be any better with this kind of damage. I'm really glad it's there in Forza 3, but it's predictable and very basic. At least from my time with the demo. But I'm sure people who have spent more time with the game can easily back me up or dispel what I'm saying.
No, you do get varying degrees of damage to different driveline parts in Forza. You can even view what is damaged and how much in the telemetry.
Scottlarock
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kanye?TylerD said:
skulpt said:
Apparently it is good enough for a driver like Stephane Sarrazin to be within 2/10th of his actual time on LeMans vs in Forza 3:
http://kotaku.com/5382400/real-racers-talk-forza-3
Watch the 1st video (well, and the 2nd, if you want):
Real track: 1:06.5
Forza 3: 1:06.7
That's pretty amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PGrDgJ9zmU
Video that shows physics difference between F3 and GTPSP :lol
It clearly shows how much the F3 physics is forgiving (you can't feel the momentum of the car when you go left and right on the strait line) and how much you can go off the track with losing nearly nothing while in the GTPSP (if you try the momentum of the car on the strait line you will soon turn around) tires get more dirtier if the car goes off the track so it slides like in GT5p...
F3 was driven with the full gas and full brake because PSP doesn't have pressure sensitivity so the comparison makes sense...
Video that shows physics difference between F3 and GTPSP :lol
It clearly shows how much the F3 physics is forgiving (you can't feel the momentum of the car when you go left and right on the strait line) and how much you can go off the track with losing nearly nothing while in the GTPSP (if you try the momentum of the car on the strait line you will soon turn around) tires get more dirtier if the car goes off the track so it slides like in GT5p...
F3 was driven with the full gas and full brake because PSP doesn't have pressure sensitivity so the comparison makes sense...
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Youc an't really say anything about "feel" with momentum without knowing how the controller/wheel is rumbling, especially if you have a high-end setup like the Fanatec.
Isn't ISR doing a GT PSP review soon anyway? I'm sure that will provide more fodder for this nonsense. ;P
Isn't ISR doing a GT PSP review soon anyway? I'm sure that will provide more fodder for this nonsense. ;P
RankoSD said:
Obviously it's a bit foolish to make a complete verdict from a video, but the car barely even looks like it's reacting to the track in FM3. If you'd take the cockpit out of the view it would be like a camera simply following the track, or more like driving a hover craft around the track instead of a car.
Slackbladder
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What variant of the Le mans circuit is that? This years pole time was 3:22.888. The Bugatti Circuit (used by Moto GP and DTM) is shorter, but 1:06 still seems fast. I'm confused.ShapeGSX said:
Edit:
Okay it's the Petit Le Mans, Road Atlanta not the Circuit de la Sarthe. It's confusing when they show the Le Mans circuit on the screen (as he is playing it). Bit of a mix up there.
Omar Ismail
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This thread sure has gone quiet now that F3 is dominating the universe with an every growing array of of 10's.
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