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Forza Motorsport 3 - October 2009 release (ignore the OP at your peril)

Dina

Member
Kinda in a pickle.

I wanna get one of those new elites, cause I have this feeling my 2006 premium won't last much longer.

Now, I can get the 250gb elite with 2 controllers and the normal forza 3 game for about 330 euros. Good deal, sure. On the other hand, I can get the 120 elite pack, one controller for about 250 euros, and buy the LCE version for 70 euros.

Normally I would buy the first option in a heartbeat, but being a F3 VIP supposedly has its virtues. Anyone know if being a non-VIP totally locks you out on anything besides the 10 unique cars you get being a VIP? Is there more, VIP-locked content in the works? Is it relevant, or simple paintjobs?
 

Chrange

Banned
Dina said:
Kinda in a pickle.

I wanna get one of those new elites, cause I have this feeling my 2006 premium won't last much longer.

Now, I can get the 250gb elite with 2 controllers and the normal forza 3 game for about 330 euros. Good deal, sure. On the other hand, I can get the 120 elite pack, one controller for about 250 euros, and buy the LCE version for 70 euros.

Normally I would buy the first option in a heartbeat, but being a F3 VIP supposedly has its virtues. Anyone know if being a non-VIP totally locks you out on anything besides the 10 unique cars you get being a VIP? Is there more, VIP-locked content in the works? Is it relevant, or simple paintjobs?

They mentioned something about VIP members getting gifted cars/tuning/paint jobs in the future, but haven't mentioned if VIP will be available outside of the pre-order.

Which isn't available in my area...
 

RSTEIN

Comics, serious business!
SuperÑ said:
In the final game will we see damage on the windshields and broken mirrors from the cockpit view?

I don't think we'll see damaged windows (in fact I don't think there really are any windows from cockpit view) but the mirrors won't be there if they're broken off.
 

blanky

Member
op_ivy said:
i just ordered the fanatec rennsport stand. i decided to get this over the wheel stand pro because of its stability. eventually i want to get the obutto cockpit and sell the fanatec, but that will have to wait till i buy my first house (no room for storage).

cant wait to try it out with shift and of course f3. i'm sure it will be loads better then racing with the wheel and my belt ;)

I ordered it today as well! With the pedalstopper because i hate having it slip underneath me. Hopefully late october means just before the FM3 release so by the time it arrives the game wont be out for too long.
 

dejay

Banned
CAW said:
Question: is the 360 wheel worth getting for this game? And will it work OK sitting on a couch? I have no experience with a gaming wheel at all but I want to get the best experience form F3.

The MS wheel is great for the FM3 demo. Pretty much the best game I've used it on. For the price I'd recommend it a lot if you plan to play FM3 a lot. It makes the whole experience a lot better. I wouldn't, however, recommend using it just on your lap. Even though it supposedly works on your lap, in reality you'll need some kind of stand to have a satisfactory experience with it.

I made a version of the one posted HERE (the ghetto looking one 8 posts down) that works really well on the couch. Mine looks a lot prettier and the design is slightly different, but I don't have a camera to take pictures. There are heaps of other options for a wheel stand/couch solution, both home made and bought.



Dina said:
Kinda in a pickle.

I wanna get one of those new elites, cause I have this feeling my 2006 premium won't last much longer.

Now, I can get the 250gb elite with 2 controllers and the normal forza 3 game for about 330 euros. Good deal, sure. On the other hand, I can get the 120 elite pack, one controller for about 250 euros, and buy the LCE version for 70 euros.

Normally I would buy the first option in a heartbeat, but being a F3 VIP supposedly has its virtues. Anyone know if being a non-VIP totally locks you out on anything besides the 10 unique cars you get being a VIP? Is there more, VIP-locked content in the works? Is it relevant, or simple paintjobs?

The first option is too good. If you're stressed about it, you could buy the LCE seperately and sell the original version ASAP.
 

kdash7

Member
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.

I love this demo and bought the MS wheel..and its amazing..but when I turn off all assists..it really hard me to control the cars..most of the time i loose control of the cars during the turns..

Any suggestions how i can race better with assists turned off?? Should I keep the ABS turned ON? Is Manual better than Automatic? Any advice will be helpful..im totally addicted to this game and cant wait for Oct 28!
 

blanky

Member
kdash7 said:
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.

I love this demo and bought the MS wheel..and its amazing..but when I turn off all assists..it really hard me to control the cars..most of the time i loose control of the cars during the turns..

Any suggestions how i can race better with assists turned off?? Should I keep the ABS turned ON? Is Manual better than Automatic? Any advice will be helpful..im totally addicted to this game and cant wait for Oct 28!

Just start slow. ABS i'd leave for last, manual is pretty easy with the steer. Just listen and dont let it go in to the red zone. Use the racing line to know how hard you brake, and use the feel in the steering wheel whether you're pushing it too hard. Maybe keep the TCS on first so you can get used to driving it.
 

kdash7

Member
blanky said:
Just start slow. ABS i'd leave for last, manual is pretty easy with the steer. Just listen and dont let it go in to the red zone. Use the racing line to know how hard you brake, and use the feel in the steering wheel whether you're pushing it too hard. Maybe keep the TCS on first so you can get used to driving it.

Ok thanks Bro will do!! One more thing..which driving view should I use? I like the cockpit view but i feel the view is too small and cant really sense the speed..which eventually affects my braking...
 

ElNino

Member
kdash7 said:
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.
Of course it's no sin to race with the assists... that's the entire reason they exist. Whatever you need in order to fully enjoy the game is fair to use.

I primarily drive without assists but in Forza 2 I would turn on the assists in particularly difficut to control cars as I wasn't enjoying spinning out every other corner.

kdash7 said:
Ok thanks Bro will do!! One more thing..which driving view should I use? I like the cockpit view but i feel the view is too small and cant really sense the speed..which eventually affects my braking...
Try using the hood or bumper cam, I find the sense of speed greater in these cams and hitting breaking points a bit easier (I generally still use the cockpit view however).
 

AMUSIX

Member
kdash7 said:
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.

I love this demo and bought the MS wheel..and its amazing..but when I turn off all assists..it really hard me to control the cars..most of the time i loose control of the cars during the turns..

Any suggestions how i can race better with assists turned off?? Should I keep the ABS turned ON? Is Manual better than Automatic? Any advice will be helpful..im totally addicted to this game and cant wait for Oct 28!
Keep the following on:

-Manual
-racing line
-ABS
-TCS

Then shut them off in order from bottom to the top. That is, when you're comfortable, shut off TCS...race for a while like that, then when you're fine there, shut off ABS...when you get used to the lighter use of brakes and are good with that, then shut off your racing line. Eventually, if you want, shut off the manual transmission.

No, there's absolutely no sin to racing with assists. If you enjoy it, it's the perfect way to play.
 

Cheeto

Member
kdash7 said:
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.

I love this demo and bought the MS wheel..and its amazing..but when I turn off all assists..it really hard me to control the cars..most of the time i loose control of the cars during the turns..

Any suggestions how i can race better with assists turned off?? Should I keep the ABS turned ON? Is Manual better than Automatic? Any advice will be helpful..im totally addicted to this game and cant wait for Oct 28!
Get in the habit of not pressing the gas or the brake all the way when slowing down for turns and accelerating out of them.
 

Cheeto

Member
kdash7 said:
Yeah thats really the hard part.. :D
Basically, race the demo hot laps with the braking line only and no other assists (besides auto trans if you want it). Start off by braking slightly before the red, and don't press the gas all the way in until the wheel is straight. As you race more and more laps, brake later and accelerate earlier. It will come together for you naturally.
 
AMUSIX said:
No, there's absolutely no sin to racing with assists. If you enjoy it, it's the perfect way to play.
Yeah, I've been in hundreds of races with people using assists, and there's no shame. I kind of like rooms where some of them are forced off (like racing line and TCS), 'cause it really puts the emphasis on control.

Anyway, I somehow had autobrake on the first time I played that demo, which is a very very funny feature. And it could be useful for the person who has never played before (like a girlfriend or wife.)
 

chespace

It's not actually trolling if you don't admit it
LordPhoque said:
So, for when can we wait the first reviews ?

Should be next Thursday (10/8), although print reviews have already started trickling out.

We got a 19/20 in OXM FR. :D
 

shpankey

not an idiot
kdash7 said:
Man...is it a sin to race with all assists turned on?? Its soo much more enjoyable with having them all turned on.

I love this demo and bought the MS wheel..and its amazing..but when I turn off all assists..it really hard me to control the cars..most of the time i loose control of the cars during the turns..

Any suggestions how i can race better with assists turned off?? Should I keep the ABS turned ON? Is Manual better than Automatic? Any advice will be helpful..im totally addicted to this game and cant wait for Oct 28!
Not at all. In fact, I recommend it. Race that way until you are REALLY comfortable with the game. Then, one by one, and one at a time, turn off one assist. Then race a bunch more that way. Then turn off another. If you turn one off and just can't get it, turn it back on. There's nothing wrong with making a game fun for you.
 

dejay

Banned
kdash7 said:
Yeah thats really the hard part.. :D

On the pedal section of the MS wheel, there's a well under the brake pedal where the arm goes when you push on the brake pedal. Cut a chunk of foam or neoprene and fit it in there under the brake pedal. It gives you some resistance and is helpful feedback as to how hard to press the brakes. You can adjust the size and material of the chunk until you get a good feel. Basically you want it to get quite firm before the breaks lock up.

It's the easiest and most effective mod you can make to the MS wheel.
 

Magni

Member
Hajaz said:
still hoping for a francorchamps DLC release

+1

DLC is gonna make this great game even better. Have we had any info concerning pricing for DLC yet btw? I hope MS doesn't screw us up too much (who I am I kidding :lol )
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Hey guys, remember that leak from a while back that claimed a whole bunch of things including how the GT-R will not be in the game because of licensing? Did a lot of that list come to fruition or what? Just came to mind while seeing how other Skyline's are in there but the GT-R hasn't been announced yet.
 

blanky

Member
enzo_gt said:
Hey guys, remember that leak from a while back that claimed a whole bunch of things including how the GT-R will not be in the game because of licensing? Did a lot of that list come to fruition or what? Just came to mind while seeing how other Skyline's are in there but the GT-R hasn't been announced yet.

Greenawalt talked about the guy in a Taxigamer interview. A disgruntled fired employee, who unfortunately spoiled quite a bit but is also very wrong. Greenawalt said he'd like to have the GTR as DLC hopefully, but wasn't confirming anything. I think what he said about the GT-R is bogus, because the story around it just sounded weird. So don't take the list too seriously, most of the cars are true the rest ehh..
 
enzo_gt said:
Hey guys, remember that leak from a while back that claimed a whole bunch of things including how the GT-R will not be in the game because of licensing? Did a lot of that list come to fruition or what? Just came to mind while seeing how other Skyline's are in there but the GT-R hasn't been announced yet.

Hasn't it been announced as DLC ?
 

blanky

Member
Since DLC will listen to the community and I found this awesome wallpaper (3000x2000) I just have to share this with you guys, http://tinypic.com/r/2vsiy4g/4. It's the GT2 version of the C6, based on the ZR1. I posted a youtube video of it before. I use this picture for my bigger screen as a wallpaper, it's gorgeous race car in my opinion. The backend with the flared wheelarches, it's almost sexy :D
 

h3ro

Member
blanky said:
Since DLC will listen to the community and I found this awesome wallpaper (3000x2000) I just have to share this with you guys, http://tinypic.com/r/2vsiy4g/4. It's the GT2 version of the C6, based on the ZR1. I posted a youtube video of it before. I use this picture for my bigger screen as a wallpaper, it's gorgeous race car in my opinion. The backend with the flared wheelarches, it's almost sexy :D

Thanks for sharing. Gorgeous car!

I'm really excited for some ALMS and Aussie V8 action in F3, just got word that my 360 is on it's way back to me as well. :D
 

chespace

It's not actually trolling if you don't admit it
h3ro said:
Thanks for sharing. Gorgeous car!

I'm really excited for some ALMS and Aussie V8 action in F3, just got word that my 360 is on it's way back to me as well. :D

Congrats!

So that GT2 version of the C6 (C6.R?) -- I know they made some huge changes to the car from its GT1 counterpart. What were some key differences?
 

h3ro

Member
chespace said:
Congrats!

So that GT2 version of the C6 (C6.R?) -- I know they made some huge changes to the car from its GT1 counterpart. What were some key differences?

Heavier and Slower. :/

Doesn't even have the see-through hood window!

C6R GT1 vs GT2

+165 lbs., - 120 HP, - 105 lb/ft TQ. as well as neutered aero.
 

blanky

Member
chespace said:
Bah. GT2 is already too crowded.

Atleast it has some competition again, GT1 is meaningless now. Next year they're ditching the engine too though, now it's the 6.0L version of the one they had in GT1 next year its a 5L of a new kind. I don't mind the crowdness though, makes an interesting grid. Better then 15 997's and 10 430's.
 

h3ro

Member
chespace said:
Bah. GT2 is already too crowded.

Yeah, it is, but I'm really looking forward to see what they can do against the Flying Lizard Porsches and Risi Ferraris. :D

Also Che, the exclusive cars, will they be included within the LE packaging or is this something GS is going to give me at pickup?

I'm apprehensive if it's something GS is going to give me as I've had a bad experience of some places either not knowing anything about a d/l code or bonus that comes with a game or just plain saying they ran out. I know the tuned R8 with the blue lightning livery is a d/l code that comes outside the package.
 
ElNino said:
The last two games have used the Japanese models which are a year ahead of North America, so the 05 STi in the game should be the 06 STi from NA.

Ahhh, I never thought\knew about that...aside from the wheel on the right of course. I always thought they looked the same in the games.... /embarrassed

I'll hand my Subie badge back in now :D
 

chespace

It's not actually trolling if you don't admit it
h3ro said:
Yeah, it is, but I'm really looking forward to see what they can do against the Flying Lizard Porsches and Risi Ferraris. :D

Also Che, the exclusive cars, will they be included within the LE packaging or is this something GS is going to give me at pickup?

I'm apprehensive if it's something GS is going to give me as I've had a bad experience of some places either not knowing anything about a d/l code or bonus that comes with a game or just plain saying they ran out. I know the tuned R8 with the blue lightning livery is a d/l code that comes outside the package.

You'll find 10 sweet cars on 2 separate pack-in cards within the LCE.

BTW, we just got the LCE retail versions in the office yesterday. I need one!
 
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