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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...
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antiquegamer
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So are we, but apparently you don't seem to get the hint.Xanadu said:
Diablohead
Member
I am interested in making a leagle with prizes for sometime in a few weeks once we all get use to the demo and full game, looking at teams of 4 v 4 over a table of knock out and losers bracket stuff so everyone can enter multiple races and to keep things fun.
I tried to do this with forza 1 and 2 years ago and even owned www.forzamorotclub.com for a while (it's not there any more) and with the huge improvement to 4's gameplay I think now is a good time to try again, I also have a job now so I can afford to give away some goodies, I also contacted jube about it.
It will be something like this:
teams of 4 versus another team in a knock out, points for winning being 10 and coming last only 1 so everyone can contribute to their team even if they crash out or finish low in the field, losing teams will play the losing team from the same brackets so they can continue to join in.
The reason I want to try this again is because now using car clubs we can share the same cars for the same races, this puts EVERYONE on a fair level using the tuned car of choice, also custom paint jobs for each team to use.
I tried to do this with forza 1 and 2 years ago and even owned www.forzamorotclub.com for a while (it's not there any more) and with the huge improvement to 4's gameplay I think now is a good time to try again, I also have a job now so I can afford to give away some goodies, I also contacted jube about it.
It will be something like this:
teams of 4 versus another team in a knock out, points for winning being 10 and coming last only 1 so everyone can contribute to their team even if they crash out or finish low in the field, losing teams will play the losing team from the same brackets so they can continue to join in.
The reason I want to try this again is because now using car clubs we can share the same cars for the same races, this puts EVERYONE on a fair level using the tuned car of choice, also custom paint jobs for each team to use.
flyinpiranha
Member
Seanspeed said:
Haha, I put him back on ignore but this is hilarious.
skyfinch said:
see, seanspeed? no matter how many rules are there to break your balls, there arent enough.
this guy with this method can probably register a certified time in blitz mode,
but only after he blitzed the traffic and now he's running solo, no obstacles.
new game types, new additional rules..
p.s.
xanadu, chill my friend. nothing in this life is 100% perfect. look at the good parts. there are many.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Does anyone know if you can take photos in the homespace location with the aero up or down on cars that have it?
The physics are excellent. Up there with the best of them imo. It's just these little things with assists and steering lock that's holding it back just a little.Xanadu said:
Even with those slight flaws, you can still feel the difference between the two games. It feels more edgy. It feels more alive. More feedback from the tyres and cars as a whole.
Very impressive.
well, physics are shit-your-pants good and enjoyable. And this, before even playing on my wheel setup, on joystick.Xanadu said:
tarmac physics feel good, weight transfer etc, touch/bump physics etc seem fine, driving the pagani full throttle is living on the edge, going the big downhill with the M5 on its side with 190km/h while dodging traffic or flying the 458 from curb to curb are very-very enjoyable.
no worries there mate. you're gonna have fun. guaranteed.
I really enjoy the correction to the FOV issue i had with Forza 3. I use the first option of third-person driving perspective, and rather enjoyed the position in Forza 2. When i tried the Forza 3 demo, I overlooked the slight change (they pushed the damn viewpoint forward, making the cars seems a lot smaller) hoping it would be fixed before the launch. Nope. -__- And even though I thoroughly enjoyed Forza 3, i hated the slight change.
So glad they pulled the FOV towards the player back again. So glad. =)
So glad they pulled the FOV towards the player back again. So glad. =)
p3tran said:well, physics are shit-your-pants good and enjoyable. And this, before even playing on my wheel setup, on joystick.
tarmac physics feel good, weight transfer etc, touch/bump physics etc seem fine, driving the pagani full throttle is living on the edge, going the big downhill with the M5 on its side with 190km/h while dodging traffic or flying the 458 from curb to curb are very-very enjoyable.
no worries there mate. you're gonna have fun. guaranteed.
saladine1 said:
Pretty much how I feel..
Nothing is perfect, we can see some small foibles, but as a driving experience, taken as a whole, it's a very worthy game..
Big Takeover
Member
Sounds great.Diablohead said:
I'm excited to see how much flexibly there is with car clubs. I love head-to-head racing of course, but the asynchronous possibilities are what I'm really interested in. More practical, more inclusive. There's plenty of room for both.
This is a completely different thing. An overlooked bug that can be patched later on.p3tran said:
I haven't played the demo yet, but I hear its very hard to get a 'certified' time with the traffic challenges already, so I dont see the point in caring about the competitiveness of that aspect. I dont know exactly how its like, but I know that the races in games like TDU were more about getting lucky with the traffic than anything. Its fun, but I wouldn't care too much about somebody else who manages to do it quicker with a 'validated' time. If anything, I think its another argument that this 'validation' system is busted.
This is what I'm talking about, dude. You might fool some people with your supposedly reasonable stance on the game, but I think you're see-through as hell. You are raising your expectations to an unreasonable degree so you can shit on the physics as soon as you try it or hear somebody else that points out some flaw.Xanadu said:
Bottom line is that Forza will never be a great sim. Its a fantastic car lover's game and something that most motorsport fans should be able to enjoy, but it will never be rFactor or anything. Of course Turn 10 and MS will market it as a proper sim, but thats marketing for you. To the casual audience, its already on the extreme end of realistic. Real racing is difficult and not for the 'every person' but they need this game to sell millions. Concessions are inevitable.
soundscream
Member
Snubbers said:
This seems like the most likley reason.
Seanspeed said:
Yup.. (To the Xanadu stuff..)
Yeah, I didn't notice it was him, thought it was a Forza 4 pro tester or something..
Anyway, absolutely love that video, the changes are both small and huge at the same time. Didn't care too much about the look of the Forza 3 version, but this one looks absolutely superb.
Getting a clean lap in the traffic race(s) is a SOB. Basically you have to do two clean laps in a row. I wish it would only count if you mess up in the last 'section' of the track and then the following lap can be clean - like normal, but it's pretty much a full clean lap. It's pretty frustrating and that's my only real gripe about the demo/game. But, when you DO manage to squeeze between two little cars around a corner barely in control it is an amazingly awesome feeling and ridiculously fun.
antiquegamer
Member
op_ivy said:
I tried with pad last night and it's more forgiving but then there's a limitation of using a pad. I am not racing nut, I just like driving, cars and going really fast, and to me the game feel better than F3 (I am sure I said this after Pax). While it's definitely harder with wheel, it's definitely more "fun" to drive with wheel set up.
Anyway, I don't know how some of you get the time you did. I put in my best and I am still good 5-10 secs behind. : /
Minimaul said:
its just the last 3 corners. rewind if you screw up to the hill, finish clean, and the penalty doesnt carry to the next lap.
the traffic mode is fucking awesome. yes, they get in your way, and yes, a great lap has almost as much to do with luck as it does skill - but its damn fun.
antiquegamer said:
yeah, even with a pad there is a noticable difference, but compared to wheel you really dont have to worry about over and understeer nearly as much - the game handles the degree of steering for you in some fashion. again, this is with pad only
skyfinch
Member
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i'm buying the game, why would i buy a game i'm not looking forward to? i know the physics will never be on par with the pc sims but i dont expect that, if what saladine said is true i'll be happy, but they said with simulation steering there would be no more assist, but if they lied i will be dissapointed, and i know you dont like it when that happens lolSeanspeed said:
soundscream
Member
skyfinch said:
Still no heads up display
Man, I can't wait to start upgrading and customizing!
I get a high modifying cars in the virtual world as well as in real life. Clutches, transmissions, cams, heads, forged pistons, wheels, forced induction,springs...etc are like candy for me.
Seeing and feeling the differences after an upgrade is so satisfying. Tuning to get every last bit out of the car is an art form and the icing on the cake.
Hurry up!!
I get a high modifying cars in the virtual world as well as in real life. Clutches, transmissions, cams, heads, forged pistons, wheels, forced induction,springs...etc are like candy for me.
Seeing and feeling the differences after an upgrade is so satisfying. Tuning to get every last bit out of the car is an art form and the icing on the cake.
Hurry up!!
I'm pretty sure I complain about Forza just as much as you. You just seem to enjoy doing it a bit too much to fool anyone. I know you're gonna buy the game and I'm sure you'll have fun with it, but you forever hold GT in higher esteem and you want to make sure that things stay that way. Maybe you dont even realize thats what you're doing and you're actually trying to convince yourself more than you are us, but its incredibly obvious.Xanadu said:
Seanspeed said:
its a new game mode. it wouldnt make sense if everybody aced it right away. actaully, that would suck.
I have certified 1.26,0 in the 458 in the traffic challenge and 1,40.x in the M5 one, both top 50 times for sure. And this "nagge" dude ( ;D ) has top 10.
I can very easily register a clean time, round after round. and this with the joypad. and after having played one single day.
luck has no part once you figure out the road, you understand where is your window to pass and where most probably the ai car will go. pushing within those parameters you get better times, clean sheets. plus if you really cant, you can always do the mario bros turtle-flip method we saw in the video above
)))p3tran said:its a new game mode. it wouldnt make sense if everybody aced it right away. actaully, that would suck.
I have certified 1.26,0 in the 458 in the traffic challenge and 1,40.x in the M5 one, both top 50 times for sure. And this "nagge" dude ( ;D ) has top 10.
I can very easily wright a clean time, round after round. and this with the joypad. and after having played one single day.
luck has no part once you figure out the road, you understand where is your window to pass and where most probably the ai car will go. pushing within those parameters you get better times, clean sheets. plus if you really cant, you can always do the mario bros turtle method we saw in the video above
i disagree - the ai will some times bunch up in some corners such that there basically is no line around them
i want to make sure things stay that way? lol? i dont even own a PS3, GT5 was a disappointment. i enjoyed forza 1 and 2 much more. whenever i make a positive comment no one cares its just another positive comment, but as soon as i point out flaws its hey xanadu is off again! honestly i'm not going to change my opinions because a few people cant handle criticism of their favourite franchise. put me to ignore if you dont like me its as easy as thatSeanspeed said:
thats why I said you figure out the road and your window of opportunity to pass, and anticipate ai moves.op_ivy said:
ex. if three cars are fighting for position side by side for the upcoming turn, better slow your pace for a couple of secs, even enter the turn a bit slower for max speed out so as to pass them after they enter it and make up for loss.
for sure, you dont have to ram them
eventhough if replay was available I would put up some incredibly tight passes between two cars in very-very high speeds. I like this game mode. its great fun!
Is the traffic random? Like, is it different every time you do it? Or does the game have the exact same cars in the exact same spots doing the exact same thing everytime?p3tran said:its a new game mode. it wouldnt make sense if everybody aced it right away. actaully, that would suck.
I have certified 1.26,0 in the 458 in the traffic challenge and 1,40.x in the M5 one, both top 50 times for sure. And this "nagge" dude ( ;D ) has top 10.
I can very easily register a clean time, round after round. and this with the joypad. and after having played one single day.
luck has no part once you figure out the road, you understand where is your window to pass and where most probably the ai car will go. pushing within those parameters you get better times, clean sheets. plus if you really cant, you can always do the mario bros turtle-flip method we saw in the video above
p3tran said:thats why I said you figure out the road and your window of opportunity to pass, and anticipate ai moves.
ex. if three cars are fighting for position side by side for the upcoming turn, better slow your pace for a couple of secs, even enter the turn a bit slower for max speed out so as to pass them after they enter it and make up for loss.
for sure, you dont have to ram them
I like this game mode. its great fun!
but if that happens to you, chances are you wont set a WR lap time - hence why luck does play into it at least a bit.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Woot! Looks like they fixed the Ford GT's speedometer needle disappearing into the cluster as it rose.
push more!! feel the road!! feel the car! they are wispering to you!!antiquegamer said:
the traffic seems random. there are specific random cars per challenge (lambos etc on the 458 challenge, shitboxes on the M5 challenge), but its not fixed what they do.Seanspeed said:
thats why some people complained yesterday that when chasing after a rival, he could hide the shitbox in front of him and pass right through it (being a ghost and all), setting you up for a nice surprise. but, there is a learning curve as I said before. a fucking exhilarating and enjoyable curve.
ok, I wont disagree, maybe your are not up for a WR in THAT lapop_ivy said:
other times you can have a full lap that is relatively very-very easy on traffic though, so it offsets itself. but hey, for WR you do need luck on your side anyways 8)ps. nagge, you on wheel or pad?
Someone has posted a (japanese) direct feed video of the demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A57IKGonrOQ
Really good quality video - no crushed blacks. Pity it has the overlay on for the race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A57IKGonrOQ
Really good quality video - no crushed blacks. Pity it has the overlay on for the race.
Big Takeover
Member
Luck does play a bit of a role, but getting a lap where luck and talent intersect is the challenge.
My take on it is this; these are the rules the game has set. You can choose to play by them, or you don't have to. The game accommodates both. If you think the rules are junk, then it let's you compete against like minded people (the !s).
For me personally, the minute I get a whiff of BS times being posted as legit, I lose all faith and interest in the leaderboard. Yeah, the penalties are harsh, but importantly they're consistent. Too harsh is better than too lenient.
My take on it is this; these are the rules the game has set. You can choose to play by them, or you don't have to. The game accommodates both. If you think the rules are junk, then it let's you compete against like minded people (the !s).
For me personally, the minute I get a whiff of BS times being posted as legit, I lose all faith and interest in the leaderboard. Yeah, the penalties are harsh, but importantly they're consistent. Too harsh is better than too lenient.