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It was a topic exposed in the other thread about racing games and after I start to do research I found some interesting points about the series that focus more in the sim racing than arcade (the opposite of the Forza Horizon series that focus in arcade and found a big success into the Xbox userbase).
MS released 3 games in the series this generation so let's start first with the data available about their debut:
Forza Motorsport 5 Debut
MS claimed FM5 to be the fastest-selling racing game in Xbox history.
The game was launched in 22nd November and by MS words in February 18th the game sold to more than one third of the Xbox owners.
MS sold 3.9 million of Xbox One consoles as of December 31.
What that means?
At least 1.3 million copies of FM5 was sold in near 3 months.
news.xbox.com
Forza Motorsport 6 Debut
With FM6 MS was more directly saying it sold over 1 million units as of Jan 4.
The game launched in September 15th.
What that means?
Over 1 million copies of FM6 was sold in near 4 months.
news.xbox.com
Forza Motorsport 7 Debut
MS give no data about FM7 sales... they basically only talks about Forza Horizon now.
These are MS PR data but what about others trackers:
GTPlanet claims that "FM5 sold over 2 million lifetime"
GFK talked about FM7 Debut in UK.
GFK UK claimed "Forza Motorsport 7 physical sales down slightly on Forza 6"
What about NPD?
They give us a updated racking list of the best selling Xbox games as of end of August 2019.
In that ranking FM5 include only Xbox Sales (digital and physical).
FM6 and FM7 include Xbox and PC sales (digital and physical).
It shows that even after 2 years FM7 did not manage to catch with FM6 in US... FM5 still continue being the best-selling game by NPD.
Some will say but these are only US data.
Well it is but over 70% of Xbox sales come from US and UK... so the changes to the rest of the world change the situation is pretty much near 0.
We have some Japan data but I choose to ignore them because it is level that can't change anything.
What is the reason for the Decline?
I take some time to think about what happened with the series and I reached two imo reasons to what is happening with Forza Motorsport series:
Conclusion
I opened the thread to discuss why that decline for the Forza Motorsport series happened and what do you GAFers things about it.
And obvious I want to see opinions about what Turn 10 can to to the series to increase it sales again in next-generation.
Actually Forza Horizion is at way better spot than Forza Motorsport.
What do you think about the future of the series?
Bonus hypothetical case?
What if MS choose to cancel Forza Motorsport series after FM8 and only focus in Forza Horizon series? What do you think Turn 10 will do or work?
Thank you for you time btw.
MS released 3 games in the series this generation so let's start first with the data available about their debut:
Forza Motorsport 5 Debut
MS claimed FM5 to be the fastest-selling racing game in Xbox history.
The game was launched in 22nd November and by MS words in February 18th the game sold to more than one third of the Xbox owners.
MS sold 3.9 million of Xbox One consoles as of December 31.
What that means?
At least 1.3 million copies of FM5 was sold in near 3 months.

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Forza Motorsport 6 Debut
With FM6 MS was more directly saying it sold over 1 million units as of Jan 4.
The game launched in September 15th.
What that means?
Over 1 million copies of FM6 was sold in near 4 months.

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Forza Motorsport 7 Debut
MS give no data about FM7 sales... they basically only talks about Forza Horizon now.
These are MS PR data but what about others trackers:
GTPlanet claims that "FM5 sold over 2 million lifetime"
GFK talked about FM7 Debut in UK.
GFK UK claimed "Forza Motorsport 7 physical sales down slightly on Forza 6"
What about NPD?
They give us a updated racking list of the best selling Xbox games as of end of August 2019.
In that ranking FM5 include only Xbox Sales (digital and physical).
FM6 and FM7 include Xbox and PC sales (digital and physical).
It shows that even after 2 years FM7 did not manage to catch with FM6 in US... FM5 still continue being the best-selling game by NPD.
Some will say but these are only US data.
Well it is but over 70% of Xbox sales come from US and UK... so the changes to the rest of the world change the situation is pretty much near 0.
We have some Japan data but I choose to ignore them because it is level that can't change anything.
What is the reason for the Decline?
I take some time to think about what happened with the series and I reached two imo reasons to what is happening with Forza Motorsport series:
- Fatigue. The series is released each two years this gen (2013, 2015 and 2017) and it is a small period between them making the consumers buy one and not the sequels.
- Forza Horizon series rise. It is indiscutile that Forza Horizon become one of the best selling games from Microsoft and reached a size and success that they never saw with Forza Motorsport and that probably helped to make gamers buy less and less the Forza Motorsport releases.
Conclusion
I opened the thread to discuss why that decline for the Forza Motorsport series happened and what do you GAFers things about it.
And obvious I want to see opinions about what Turn 10 can to to the series to increase it sales again in next-generation.
Actually Forza Horizion is at way better spot than Forza Motorsport.
What do you think about the future of the series?
Bonus hypothetical case?
What if MS choose to cancel Forza Motorsport series after FM8 and only focus in Forza Horizon series? What do you think Turn 10 will do or work?
Thank you for you time btw.
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