Bumblebeetuna
Member
Gameplay wise I think GT7 is better. FH5 is just behind it. But the slog of the menus and smell your own farts career mode design puts FH5 ahead.
FH3 and 4 are even better though. A shame those will never hit PS5.
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PS5 Players Drive Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 to the Top of the PS Store Pre-Order Charts All Around the World
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Gameplay wise I think GT7 is better. FH5 is just behind it. But the slog of the menus and smell your own farts career mode design puts FH5 ahead.
FH3 and 4 are even better though. A shame those will never hit PS5.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
We need Playstation fans to come out hard for this and they might do the never before and relicence for a re-release if this hits 10m sold for a combo pack of 3+4 for $60.
You do need to own the PS4 game to have that option, though. Otherwise you will see the title at $50.Most Sony fanboys are weak.
Oh its only 10€?
"What do you mean Im paying for a patch"
drganon
Member
Resetera is a hivemind of retardation.
Microsoft's shills are all over the FH5 there, pushing the typical anti-exclusivity narrative because that's all they're programmed to do. As if Sony and Nintendo wouldn't have data from their own 1P or multiplat titles to decide what's best for their platforms, rather than needing to rely on a 3P Microsoft.
This poster just made their account last month, and have only 15 posts. If you could search their post history as a non-member, I'm sure you'd likely find them saying similar things in other relevant threads. Or probably even the same single thread. Just tired of these fake people contaminating discourse online just to push their own agendas, they aren't gamers.
Like imagine the gall thinking you can tell Nintendo their racing games aren't big enough. Didn't Mario Kart Wii sell like 40-something million? I'm sure MK between Wii U and Switch has done at least 20+ million.
They don't need to "take cues" from Forza or Microsoft and, quite frankly, neither does SIE; GT7's already over 10 million and it's done wonders bolstering PS5's profile as a platform to buy into, as an exclusive. And that's something it'd of been much less effective at if it were on PC or other consoles. This is nothing but facts.
They're two very different types of racing games.
Believe it or not a lot of people prefer simulators!
Xbox's generation, yes.
First two years of Xbox Series X/S, yes.
Outside of that, not remotely accurate.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
There are licensing issues preventing that from ever happening. They aren’t even on the Xbox marketplace anymore.
lughnasadh123
Member
Cha-fucking-Ching. Get that monies MS.
Unknown?
Member
Remember how exclusives didn't matter... until MS started buying Zenimax and Activision, then they mattered.... until it was realized that was what pushed them towards 3rd party.
Microsoft's shills are all over the FH5 there, pushing the typical anti-exclusivity narrative because that's all they're programmed to do. As if Sony and Nintendo wouldn't have data from their own 1P or multiplat titles to decide what's best for their platforms, rather than needing to rely on a 3P Microsoft.
This poster just made their account last month, and have only 15 posts. If you could search their post history as a non-member, I'm sure you'd likely find them saying similar things in other relevant threads. Or probably even the same single thread. Just tired of these fake people contaminating discourse online just to push their own agendas, they aren't gamers.
Like imagine the gall thinking you can tell Nintendo their racing games aren't big enough. Didn't Mario Kart Wii sell like 40-something million? I'm sure MK between Wii U and Switch has done at least 20+ million.
They don't need to "take cues" from Forza or Microsoft and, quite frankly, neither does SIE; GT7's already over 10 million and it's done wonders bolstering PS5's profile as a platform to buy into, as an exclusive. And that's something it'd of been much less effective at if it were on PC or other consoles. This is nothing but facts.
They're two very different types of racing games.
Believe it or not a lot of people prefer simulators!
Xbox's generation, yes.
First two years of Xbox Series X/S, yes.
Outside of that, not remotely accurate.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
MMaRsu
Member
Yeah so stupid and such a shame. Im glad I have Fh3 in my Ms account, FH4 on Steam
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FWIW, used physical copies of FH4 can still be found for $10 or so.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Seriously!? Good lord...
TBF, I think that poster was being sarcastic. They said as such in another post o.0.
But you're both right, and it's too easy to take a post like that as being serious because of what an echo chamber they are over there.
True this is a better deal for Microsoft than the situation they was in with the software needing to bring in a big enough return to recover development cost & the hit they was taking on Xbox Series X/S , Phil said they was subsidizing between $100 to $200 , that means the games needed to sell a lot & bring in subscribers & accessory sales .
PlayStation situation is different they quickly broke even on PS5 so if these games sell consoles & accessories it's win win for everyone.
Microsoft bigger win will come if they release a new Xbox that's sold for profit while selling games on PlayStation & Switch to fund the development for the games that also play on this high-end console.
Sony being able to sell PS5 Pro at $699 & Edge Controller for $199 should worry them though because they still have to worry about Sony releasing a over the top model of PlayStation 6.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Good news.
I hope all of Microsoft's better first party games sell well. They don't deserve to be sent out to die.
I hope all of Microsoft's better first party games sell well. They don't deserve to be sent out to die.
laynelane
Member
The person saying Nintendo should take notes looked like they were making fun of the other person who said SIE should take notes from MS on how to make their racing game bigger. I'm guessing if they keep it up, they won't last long there lol.
The other argument - that no one is going to buy a PS to play exclusives - seems to go along with the anti-exclusive sentiment that's showing up more and more. I figure that's not true and also that exclusives can be about serving an existing audience. Not denying that game companies want growth, but it can be about more than that.
Senua
Member
*psst* You aren't Sony
tusharngf
Member
they completely overhauled the engine from crew 2. Everything is in line with modern racing games.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Why I said re-licence…? If FH does 10m on Playstation it would silly to leave a pot of nearly half a billion on the table over car licensing which they can reestablish they have good relations with all companies.
3/4 are the superior games as well.
clarky
Gold Member
Its a good game but not a great racer.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
intbal
Member
It's music licensing, too.
And despite having all the money in the world, Microsoft has never been able to pry loose the iron grip that the rights holders of the music in JSRF have on that game.
I think you just have to give up on renewed licensing for these older titles.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Music for this title can be swapped out easily, most musicians jump for any kind of royalties on these titles.
JSRF is an entire other beast after the assets where auctioned off, hopefully that remake Sega has in the works releases soon. JSRF I couldn’t imagine playing without that original sound track but
kazuyamishima
Member
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
They're finally getting a good horizon game.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
There is no game like this on Switch tnx to Nintendo.
Killjoy-NL
Member
I mean, it's the only Xbox IP in their catalogue that can get people excited (outside COD/TES).
I dunno, people seem to be excited for the upcoming Doom.
You also did say people wouldn’t be interested in Sea of Thieves…
Osaka_Boss
Member
The idiots destroyed the one studio that could pull it off and rushed a really good project out of the door. Like, why
djjinx2
Member
But it's free money for MS too?
If sales makes 50 million dollars
MS get 35 mil
Sony 15 mil
Unless my maths sucks that's more a win for Xbox.
They could lower prices if they wished to gain market share (they won't as it's all about shorter term revenue for them)
laynelane
Member
There's costs associated for both parties, though. For example, there's development costs on the MS side and distribution costs on Sony's side (downloading from the store, etc.). Though, no matter how you look at it, it's beneficial for both companies, the studios who make the games, and customers. Maybe reducing costs is one of the reasons there's no physical version - not having to spend on that allows MS to gain more revenue/profit.
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SentientStone
Member
Glad to see MS games doing well on the XBOX series PS, hope this leads to Gears and Killer Instinct ports.
Sheathe thy sword, warrior. He’s making a reference to Evolution Studios and DriveClub
A new multiplatform killer instinct game should ideally be a no-brainer, but that would require Booty to actually do some creative thinking
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Poor bait even for you, hopefully no one on Playstation gets excited for Microsoft’s next title to drop Doom.
Killjoy-NL
Member
SoT needed 4 months to get 4M sales. That's poor reception, imo.
Doom also will likely sell 1-2M copies on PS5. It's more like an AA game.
Most of Xbox' games won't have much pull.
Why do you take it as a negative? It's a compliment to the Forza franchise.
And there will always be people who get excited for the release of a game, doesn't mean it'll be a hit.
Edit:
I see I used the phrase "get excited", so fair enough. There will be more games that can get people excited.
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Kenneth Haight
Member
Definitely going to pick this up for £25 a few months after launch.
It’s half price regularly on steam so no need to pay full price at launch, the games been available for years so no problem waiting.
It’s half price regularly on steam so no need to pay full price at launch, the games been available for years so no problem waiting.
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
That 35 million gain is dwarfed by the billions per year lost because they're not selling fucking consoles.
SkylineRKR
Member
I have an XSS so I did play it. I called it before, but Crew Motorfest is the Wish.com version of Forza Horizon. With a woke topping.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Software sales bring in the profit hardware does not.
They’ll make over half a billion in revenue off this release if the charts are correct.
Even SoT did 4 million and this to me should sell twice as much.
Starbuck2907
Member
I am beginning to think the gamepass could become the only exclusive product that matters. I get access to a ton of Gabe’s for cheap and can pick up PS exclusives on pc.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Remember when Indy was the second best-selling game the week it launched?
Team Andromeda
Member
Says a lot about SONY's current In-House output that a 4 year old In-House Xbox game, tops the SONY charts.
Skifi28
Member
Kudos for trying so hard to spin a positive into a negative.
Team Andromeda
Member
It's not spin, but credit for trying so hard at a good comeback....
Plenty of 3rd party publishers tops Sony charts.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sea of Thieves was in a similar position and it was a 6 year old game.
Astray
Member
Playstation has always thrived through putting third parties first and providing them with a strong platform for sales, so not surprising whatsoever.
