Fox And Friends: Spongebob Is 'Pushing A Global Warming Agenda'

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Won't people just realize that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar? It's a freaking kids show. These guys are so paranoid about anything contradicting their views (anti-global warming, anti-gay, anti-porn) that they're willing to push their dumb agendas onto anything.
 
Something Wicked said:
It is not necessarily central to my point, but those saying "nothing is fact?... how about gravity? lolololol" just further prove to me that many of you do not understand the scientific concepts that you bring up, but instead many of guys just know the scientific buzzwords/phrases to sound intelligent.
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Well, you totally misunderstood everyone's point.

The problem people have is that when these right wing pundits talk about scientific theory is that they make it seem that it is just some crazy theory thought up by a scientist with no real evidence to back it up. After all, its just a theory. I think that is the problem most people have here since they are purposefully/ignorantly misinforming viewers and what a scientific theory actually is. After all, gravity is a 'theory' also
 
Nothing Fox News says surprises me anymore. It's impossible to take the channel as a whole seriously, and depressingly, some people actually do.

Except Shepard Smith, who is too good for that station.
 
Gravity is a fact. When I let go of something, it falls down. When we send men and women into space, we can measure and account for this fact. Climate change is likewise a fact. It IS happening. Theories and hypotheses come into play when we attempt to explain how and why these things happen.
 
Something Wicked said:
It is not necessarily central to my point, but those saying "nothing is fact?... how about gravity? lolololol" just further prove to me that many of you do not understand the scientific concepts that you bring up, but instead many of guys just know the scientific buzzwords/phrases to sound intelligent.

Gravity is actually an extremely controversial subject as well. Is it the effect of "spacetime curvature?" Is it the effect of a specific undetected particle? Or is it perhaps just the net effect of other fundamental forces (electromagnetic and/or weak/strong nuclear)? Even in the year 2011, we do not know- and personally, I think it's most likely the third option- gravity not being a separate fundamental force, but the net effect of the others.
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Do you even read the stuff you're supposedly answering to? Everything you write is only marginally connected to it. The fact that there's no clear concensus as to what causes gravity doesn't negate the fact that it apparently exists.

Apart from the fact that his Rorschach's comment was quite obviously poking fun at your "nothing is a fact" claim, that no one challenges, by the way.

Edit: Damn, I just re-read my post. Sounds pretty self-contradictory. Blame my bad English.
 
Koomaster said:
Fox & Friends sounds like the name of a cartoon honestly.
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"Gather round friends, I need to tell you that Fox is really ill after drinking all that paint thinner, so be nice. Here he comes now!"

"Durrrrrhhhh, I'm the most popular news net work, beating our nearist rival by a lot...Does the Mainstream media have a bias for the left? Durrrrrhhhh, those damn libruls telling use not to teach bout' Jesus in our schools! Durrrrrhhhh "

"Poor Fox."
 
KHarvey16 said:
Gravity is a fact. When I let go of something, it falls down. When we send men and women into space, we can measure and account for this fact. Climate change is likewise a fact. It IS happening. Theories and hypotheses come into play when we attempt to explain how and why these things happen.
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Congratulations, Sir Issac, and your amazing deductive skills. However, the scientific community has indeed progressed for last 400 or so years. Fear not though, as there is plenty of free literature, studies, and other information available to you on this subject online!
 
Something Wicked said:
It is not necessarily central to my point, but those saying "nothing is fact?... how about gravity? lolololol" just further prove to me that many of you do not understand the scientific concepts that you bring up, but instead many of guys just know the scientific buzzwords/phrases to sound intelligent.

Gravity is actually an extremely controversial subject as well. Is it the effect of "spacetime curvature?" Is it the effect of a specific undetected particle? Or is it perhaps just the net effect of other fundamental forces (electromagnetic and/or weak/strong nuclear)? Even in the year 2011, we do not know- and personally, I think it's most likely the third option- gravity not being a separate fundamental force, but the net effect of the others.
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The point is that when we discuss theories regarding the cause of global warming, the scientific consensus is that humans do contribute to it and are directly affecting it. It's not a fact that this is happening of course because nothing is truly known but when all signs point to something you can't just say "but it's a theory! It's not fact!" as a counter-argument.

In the same sense gravity exists and the Newtonian theory is not fact but it is an accepted theory unless you're dealing with extremes because it holds true for those cases. And Einstein's theory is an even better approximation but it is obviously not fact.
 
Dissonance said:
Didn't someone also say that Spongebob is pushing the gay agenda or something like that?

Man, ignorant people really hate sponges.
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The church I went to when I was young decried the Lion King for pushing the gay agenda. Timon and Puumba were living in sin!

Of course I was 8 at the time so I believed it. The church couldn't possibly be saying something that isn't true!

17 years later my Fox News watching family wonders why I don't go to church. It's a mystery.
 
Something Wicked said:
It is not necessarily central to my point, but those saying "nothing is fact?... how about gravity? lolololol" just further prove to me that many of you do not understand the scientific concepts that you bring up, but instead many of guys just know the scientific buzzwords/phrases to sound intelligent.

Gravity is actually an extremely controversial subject as well. Is it the effect of "spacetime curvature?" Is it the effect of a specific undetected particle? Or is it perhaps just the net effect of other fundamental forces (electromagnetic and/or weak/strong nuclear)? Even in the year 2011, we do not know- and personally, I think it's most likely the third option- gravity not being a separate fundamental force, but the net effect of the others.
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A majority of knowledge like that is of no use to anyone except the scientists studying it, though. What practical use does it have? Gravity could be caused by "spacetime curvature" or undetected particles or anything else, all that matters to the average person is that they're stuck to the ground. It doesn't really matter why, and although it may be interesting to find out, it doesn't really change what gravity does.

Similarly, if there's a general consensus that we're contributing to global warming, do you think it wise not to act on that in any way just because we don't know precisely what is causing it? To me it seems like the smart thing to do would be say "Hey, there's a ton of scientists saying we're contributing to global warming, why don't we do something about it. Worst case scenario we've bettered our environment, even if we didn't prevent the world from catching fire."

I don't see the value in the "Well yeah, plenty of scientists agree on this, but we can't actually prove anything 100%" thing. I understand that it's true, we really can't prove anything 100%, but at some point you need to accept that we need to make decisions based on what we do understand.
 
Phenomena happen. Theories explain phenomena to the best of human knowledge. Global warming, like gravity, is a phenomenon. It IS happening. Nobody disputes that. The data strongly suggests that carbon in the atmosphere is related to it and since human industrialization carbon has increased exponentially. But arguing over the cause of it sort of pointless since we know it is happening and we know what happened when it happened in the past. Instead of this stupid bickering over how much humans contributed to the cause we should be worrying about mitigating the effect; because another ice age will not go over well with current society. Reducing pollution is likely to help slow it down while scientists can work out a longer term solution.
 
Something Wicked said:
Congratulations, Sir Issac, and your amazing deductive skills. However, the scientific community has indeed progressed for last 400 or so years. Fear not though, as there is plenty of free literature, studies, and other information available to you on this subject online!
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Huh?
 
RagnarokX said:
Phenomena happen. Theories explain phenomena to the best of human knowledge. Global warming, like gravity, is a phenomenon. It IS happening. Nobody disputes that. The data strongly suggests that carbon in the atmosphere is related to it and since human industrialization carbon has increased exponentially. But arguing over the cause of it sort of pointless since we know it is happening and we know what happened when it happened in the past. Instead of this stupid bickering over how much humans contributed to the cause we should be worrying about mitigating the effect; because another ice age will not go over well with current society. Reducing pollution is likely to help slow it down while scientists can work out a longer term solution.
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Unfortunately, there is a cavalcade of idiots in rightwing media who do.
 
I honestly can't see how anyone with a functioning brain could believe any of the bullshit this channel dishes out.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
This man needs to be promoted to member status ASAP.
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Indeed, somebody needs to spread the truth. The facts. The reality.

All I see here are children arguing about this so called "gravity." I'm not saying gravity isn't real, but there's strong evidence that what you call "gravity" doesn't exist. I think we need to look at all angles.

Like "global warming." I, personally, know plenty of people who are like "Look, show me the data." I mean, I've never seen once piece of evidence that completely disproves what I believe. At the same time, I've seen at least one piece of evidence that totally goes with my belief. So, there's obviously still a debate.

All I keep hearing is "Ohhhhhhhh, but the vast majority of scientists believe global warming is a cause of humans and can show it" or "hey, idiot, carbon gas can cause the Earth to heat up and there's proof." Well, ya know what? I'm not too smart. How about that, you progressive trash.

Tide goes in, tide goes out, folks. No miscomminication.
 
Milchjon said:
Do you even read the stuff you're supposedly answering to? Everything you write is only marginally connected to it. The fact that there's no clear concensus as to what causes gravity doesn't negate the fact that it apparently exists.

Apart from the fact that his Rorschach's comment was quite obviously poking fun at your "nothing is a fact" claim, that no one challenges, by the way.
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You're just framing the question in a useless and trivial manner. Gravity is merely a word- a not-so-concretely defined word and perhaps an overly archaic word. "How gravity works" is what's important. Thus, saying "a particle causes smaller objects to be pulled towards larger objects [an effect of what we've classically called "gravity"] is an absolute fact" is disingenuous as saying "humans causing "climate change" [in which, I believe most arguing against me will have a difficult time concretely defining the very term "climate change" itself] is absolute fact."

And yes, I got Rorschach's joke, however, in my opinion, unbeknownst to him/her, the joke actually hurt the argument that he/she is siding.
 
I like how they bring up all those dumb stats about the US children struggling at education without ever pointing the finger at themselves and thinking that their retohric is what's keeping all those stats down.

Maybe it's because they constantly lambast scientific studies such as those around climate change which causes the rest of the scientific world to laugh at the us. They need to stop making everything into a giant conspiracy about agenda's or what's true and what isn't true.

Teaching the controversy in science class rooms wont help students raise their science marks. Banning controversal books, wont raise their english skills. I'm sure if there was some form of math that they could complain about they'd ban that too.
 
But for Gretchen Carlson, it isn't enough that the show tackled an issue of public concern, she just doesn't understand SpongeBob at all. She said "it's hard to even follow sometimes," while another commentator is heard saying "I don't get it."
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Fox & Friends is and always has been the most embarrassing thing on television, even when Glenn Beck was riding high with his violent Bircher propaganda.

I swear, if I ever saw Steve Doocy in a store, I could gladly get arrested for kicking him in the balls.
 
RagnarokX said:
I was honestly surprised when Fox acknowledged that it's happening in that video.
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I think what is particularly surreal is how Fox can't even get its employee's stories straight. Glenn Beck always stated that we were in a cooling period while he was still employed. Napoliano states we are warming and its just the sun because, "Surprise, the sun heats the Earth and not people." Pretty much every FoxNews broadcaster has their own unique opinion that is contrary to what most of their coworkers believe.
 
Mortrialus said:
I think what is particularly surreal is how Fox can't even get its employee's stories straight. Glenn Beck always stated that we were in a cooling period while he was still employed. Napoliano states we are warming and its just the sun because, "Surprise, the sun heats the Earth and not people." Pretty much every FoxNews broadcaster has their own unique opinion that is contrary to what most of their coworkers believe.
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Lol. What's funny is that controlling pollution actually can have long term gains for companies but they will refuse because of short term losses. It's really stupid. And there are methods of reducing the problem that don't involve pollution or lifestyle changes such as painting rooftops white that get laughed at because they just sound silly.
 
Guzim said:
I don't care what anyone says, I enjoy the new episodes.
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Has it gotten better recently? The first three to four seasons are some of the most brilliant cartoons I've seen, and then it felt like it dropped off a cliff in quality.
 
Plywood said:
I'M A GOOFY GOOBER
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Shaking my fucking head~ I'M A GOOFY GOOBER! GOOFY, GOOFY GOOBER!

How the hell don't they get Spongebob? Who the hell doesn't get spongebob? Are they mentally challenged? Spongebob, was mainly made as a suspension of disbelief, hence the talking sponge in the fucking ocean.

Fuck, these guys, need to chill and just enjoy the ride. Because "It's the best day evvvverrrrrrrr!"
 
Fair & Balanced guys. I'm sure they're planning a massive expose warning parents about the conservative leanings of Veggie Tales.
 
I just wish Gretchen Carlson would stop acting stupid.

She was valedictorian at her high school. She graduated cum laude from Stanford. She studied abroad at Oxford. She plays classical violin.

And yet she acts like an addle minded housewife (which is an insult to housewives and all stay at home parents/guardians). Everything is "well, I'm a mother, so..." She could hang out with Jenny McCarthy. She worked too hard over the years to put her mind out to pasture like this.
 
Mrs. Manky said:
I just wish Gretchen Carlson would stop acting stupid.

She was valedictorian at her high school. She graduated cum laude from Stanford. She studied abroad at Oxford. She plays classical violin.

And yet she acts like an addle minded housewife (which is an insult to housewives and all stay at home parents/guardians). Everything is "well, I'm a mother, so..." She could hang out with Jenny McCarthy. She worked too hard over the years to put her mind out to pasture like this.
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"I needed to google what 'ignoramus' meant because I'm playing a stereotype and it means 'ignorant lawyer!'"

Seriously if you are going to play stupid at least give people the real intended definition of the word, not the origin of it. I think even uneducated people can work out that it's an insult of intelligence based on the similarity to ignorant.
 
Ookami-kun said:
Come on people, we need Spongebob related posts/humor!
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I'm on it:

But for Gretchen Carlson, it isn't enough that the show tackled an issue of public concern, she just doesn't understand SpongeBob at all. She said "it's hard to even follow sometimes," while another commentator is heard saying "I don't get it."
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Something Wicked said:
Now, that's a damn fucking lie, but hey, it's far easier just to claim something is "fact" and not demonstrate a comprehensive understanding of the equations and models behind such "facts."

To those with not much of a technical background in chemistry, physics, and the engineering fields, here's a little secret: we cannot prove anything as absolute fact! Every scientific law and equation is a mere approximation of a mechanism of the universe- which all have varying degrees of error under varying conditions and circumstances. A good scientist, researcher, or engineer should not blindly accept any scientific claim as absolute fact, but should be to assign a probability to such claims and show its potential error is within an acceptable range.
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Yeah, and here's another little "fact".

In general, almost all scientists are aware of exactly the point you made about all scientific models being approximation. Consequently, when they are in discourse, it is accepted that the fact means "with a very high probability".

Outputting actual probabilities on models that are currently the best explanation is nonsensical since an evaluation of such a thing requires a more accurate model.

Its not a "damn fucking lie" that man-made global warmind has near universal acceptance among scientists, much in the same that its not a "damn fucking lie" that gravity has near universal acceptance.

YOU should probably go do some research of your own if you want to make the case that global warming isn't in large part, related to how mankind has affected the atmosphere, instead of making the nonsense argument you just did.
 
Mrs. Manky said:
I just wish Gretchen Carlson would stop acting stupid.

She was valedictorian at her high school. She graduated cum laude from Stanford. She studied abroad at Oxford. She plays classical violin.

And yet she acts like an addle minded housewife (which is an insult to housewives and all stay at home parents/guardians). Everything is "well, I'm a mother, so..." She could hang out with Jenny McCarthy. She worked too hard over the years to put her mind out to pasture like this.
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Real talk, I truly believe that her ability to act so believable stupid is telling of how intelligent she really is.

She studied at fucking Oxford and knows how to speak in a way that millions of people believe that she truly isn't an elite. That she actually doesn't know what three plus syllable words mean.

Fox News is a disgusting and corrupt organization, but I'll be god damned if they don't staff some damn good entertainers. The bits I’ve typed earlier, about Spongebob being a liberal mouthpiece or manatees promoting gay marriage via EPA protection, could come right out of Ms. Carlson's mouth, and you'd believe that she believed it. Clever girl.
 
They what? Cartoons don't have messages. They're just a bunch of hilarious drawings, you know. Like people getting hurt and stuff. Stuff like that.
 
Haven't liked the show since the movie dropped. After that it seemed like everything just became worse from the animation to the writing.

The_Technomancer said:
Has it gotten better recently? The first three to four seasons are some of the most brilliant cartoons I've seen, and then it felt like it dropped off a cliff in quality.
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imo they've gotten slightly better, but it doesn't compare to the first couple of seasons. Didn't the creator of Spongebob leave the show? Or am I mixing him up with someone else?
 
Mrs. Manky said:
I just wish Gretchen Carlson would stop acting stupid.

She was valedictorian at her high school. She graduated cum laude from Stanford. She studied abroad at Oxford. She plays classical violin.

And yet she acts like an addle minded housewife (which is an insult to housewives and all stay at home parents/guardians). Everything is "well, I'm a mother, so..." She could hang out with Jenny McCarthy. She worked too hard over the years to put her mind out to pasture like this.
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Whatever, she gettin' paid.
 
Spire said:
Fair & Balanced guys. I'm sure they're planning a massive expose warning parents about the conservative leanings of Veggie Tales.
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They'll forget the pickles.

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AbsoluteZero said:
They're not bad, it's just the whole golden age vs silver age type argument.
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Yeah, I haven't seen the most recent season, but the last one I saw from last year or so was still pretty funny. The most annoying thing about it is that Spongebob's voice is far higher pitched, and Patrick's trying too hard to sound stupid.
 
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