Fox And Friends: Spongebob Is 'Pushing A Global Warming Agenda'

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Something Wicked said:
You're just framing the question in a useless and trivial manner. Gravity is merely a word- a not-so-concretely defined word and perhaps an overly archaic word. "How gravity works" is what's important. Thus, saying "a particle causes smaller objects to be pulled towards larger objects [an effect of what we've classically called "gravity"] is an absolute fact" is disingenuous as saying "humans causing "climate change" [in which, I believe most arguing against me will have a difficult time concretely defining the very term "climate change" itself] is absolute fact."

And yes, I got Rorschach's joke, however, in my opinion, unbeknownst to him/her, the joke actually hurt the argument that he/she is siding.

Something Wicked said:
Every single professional scientific organization in the geosciences and every single national academy of sciences acknowledges the major contribution of humans to climate change
Now, that's a damn fucking lie, but hey, it's far easier just to claim something is "fact" and not demonstrate a comprehensive understanding of the equations and models behind such "facts."

To those with not much of a technical background in chemistry, physics, and the engineering fields, here's a little secret: we cannot prove anything as absolute fact! Every scientific law and equation is a mere approximation of a mechanism of the universe- which all have varying degrees of error under varying conditions and circumstances. A good scientist, researcher, or engineer should not blindly accept any scientific claim as absolute fact, but should be to assign a probability to such claims and show its potential error is within an acceptable range.

Ironically, your entire rant is based on an irrational protestation to an actual fact.

Following the link that Huff Post article embedded, it is indeed a fact that every major scientific body in the world accepts that humans contribute to climate change. No amount of semantics will change that fact. Could they all be wrong? Possibly. Will their model improve as time goes on? Definitely. But what the article posted was not a lie. Derail over.
 
Why are these people so duuuumb
OF COURSE cutting down so many forests and having so many smoke-spewing vehicles and factories is affecting the climate. It's not a "natural" phase at all.
 
DonMigs85 said:
Why are these people so duuuumb
OF COURSE cutting down so many forests and having so many smoke-spewing vehicles and factories is affecting the climate. It's not a "natural" phase at all.

Welp, can't argue with your rock solid analysis.
 
Plywood said:
They'll forget the pickles.

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No way man. The liberal media (aka Bubble Bass) is just HIDING the pickles so everyone sides with him!
 
Alucrid said:
Whatever, she gettin' paid.
It's a sad fucking world where anyone could find anything admirable about pretending to be an ignorant fool in exchange for money.
 
Dibbz said:
wow and people actually listen to these idiots? Jesus, how the hell do the American public let them get away with this kind of rubbish?

You answered your own question:

Dibbz said:

Fox news is proud to pander to its base, the rightwing Christian-Conservative male.
 
Professor Beef said:
No way man. The liberal media (aka Bubble Bass) is just HIDING the pickles so everyone sides with him!

Bubble Bass is suuuch a dick in every episode he's in. There was one episode where Plankton is hangin' out with Spongebob and they do to a movie together. Then Bubble Bass comes and sits on Plankton's face. When Spongebob asks him to get off, he just crunches plankton harder with his butt cheeks. Who does that type of shit?

What a jerk
 
Ah, the good ol' you can prove things as absolute fact, therefore insert alternative as answer.

The more accurate way to understand scientific theory and predictions is that... they produce predictions that map well onto how reality actually is; but can nonetheless be refined to produce even higher resolution predictions that are even more accurate.

Credible scientific theories (such as evolution and anthropogenic global warming) produce far more accurate understandings of our reality than our human senses alone can manage.
 
Amir0x said:
Bubble Bass is suuuch a dick in every episode he's in. There was one episode where Plankton is hangin' out with Spongebob and they do to a movie together. Then Bubble Bass comes and sits on Plankton's face. When Spongebob asks him to get off, he just crunches plankton harder with his butt cheeks. Who does that type of shit?

What a jerk

You can't explain that.
 
News Corp. talking heads taking a swipe at a Viacom fixture. I say it is just an act to hide the one world media conglomerate we live with today.
 
Rorschach said:
I'm 94% sure gravity exists.

I read this as "I'm 94% sure GRAVY exists." I now want gravy.

Also huffington post attacking silly segment on fox. When was the last time they attacked bullshit coming from CNN?
 
Verboten said:
They must really hate Adventure Time.
Not popular enough, there's no money in denouncing it.

Same reason everyone is up in arms about guns and boobs in GTA games but you never hear about the Megaten series in which you LITERALLY bargain and sign contracts with demons (up to and including several depictions of Satan himself) by offering things like tributes of gold and your own life force. Hell, a bunch of the games involve the option of joining with Lucifer and leading the armies of hell against Heaven itself.
 
Yeah, I know it's still a SpongeBob related thread, but I'm responding to a couple more of these misguided points:

Sho_Nuff82 said:
Following the link that Huff Post article embedded, it is indeed a fact that every major scientific body in the world accepts that humans contribute to climate change. No amount of semantics will change that fact. Could they all be wrong? Possibly. Will their model improve as time goes on? Definitely. But what the article posted was not a lie. Derail over.

That SF chronicle blog listed about 18 out of 1000s of scientific organizations- many of which require AGW to be an issue to ever receive the levels of funding they currently receive. The two I respect the most out of those, the American Chemical Society and American Physical Society, I know each have many members angry over the press statements supporting AGW from the organization heads. AGW certainly does not have unanimous support within these organizations (and within many others).

One press statement certainly does not speak for the 1,000s, 10,00s, or 100,000s of scientists and engineers within each group. For the last few decades, most scientists did not really care what their fellow scientists within the climatology areas claimed. Most thought "why bother criticizing fellow colleagues' entire bodies of work, besides climatology is not exactly my field anyway", even though they knew they had a far better understanding on how the universe operates than these "pseudo-scientist" climatologists. Now with the massive "climate taxes" being proposed throughout the world, other scientists are speaking up. But no, continue reading horribly biased blogs that claim "nearly all scientists support AGW theory" when that is far from reality.



Earthstrike said:
Yeah, and here's another little "fact".

In general, almost all scientists are aware of exactly the point you made about all scientific models being approximation. Consequently, when they are in discourse, it is accepted that the fact means "with a very high probability".

Outputting actual probabilities on models that are currently the best explanation is nonsensical since an evaluation of such a thing requires a more accurate model.

Its not a "damn fucking lie" that man-made global warmind has near universal acceptance among scientists, much in the same that its not a "damn fucking lie" that gravity has near universal acceptance.

YOU should probably go do some research of your own if you want to make the case that global warming isn't in large part, related to how mankind has affected the atmosphere, instead of making the nonsense argument you just did.

I have done plenty of research (reading the actual scientific papers and IPCC reports, not some idiots' shitty blogs), and after looking at how temperature values are calculated from ice cores, temperature stations for the last 100 years, and even how temperatures are currently being measured and averaged, I say (as a chemical engineer) that very high degrees of error exist in these measurements, and thus the probability of AGW is actually quite low.
 
entrement said:
Man, HuffPo has become such a crap site after the AOL acquisition.

Yeah... that was TOTALLY when it happened... /sarcasm

Arianna Huffington is the Bill O'Reilly of the left. I hate her. She makes all liberals look like morons. Her, Olberman, and Ed should get the same treatment as Bill O. Glenn and Rush are their own special brand of crazy, but Bill and Drudge are the same thing as Arianna.
 
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