I think it drops to un-enhanced resolution.
FPS Boost (up to 120fps) Coming to EA Games on Xbox
- Thread starter ManaByte
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I think it drops to un-enhanced resolution.
Shmunter
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It sucks ms didn't put in a bigger GPU delta to effectively 2x OneX under all circumstances.
Anyway great feature. Any news on ME andromeda going to 60? Need For Speed catalog to 60?
Chris_Rivera
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I thought fps boost was a frame duplication type feature? I don't get how it can be bypassed and work as expected.
bfv actually looks a bit bad at 4k,
Chukhopops
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Titanfall 2 is lower res but definitely not 900p. It runs dynamic res up to 4K at 60fps, and looks like 1440p or around with the 120fps mode.
M1chl
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Brcause going from 60hz to 120hz with this "hacky" form requires a lot of horsepower.
Esppiral
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That may be the reason I am not that impressed with 120hz gaming... Also they should update the TV asap to support VRR...
Mr Reasonable
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I'll be interested to see what reactions are to higher fps games, a lot of what makes 30fps suck is the image smearing, you get a sharper image - in motion - with higher framerate is my experience.
Gears 5 at 120hz looks sharper than at 60 and as far as I know the resolution doesn't take a hit, so that's maybe one to check.
I expect it'll be hard to show the benefits of this unless people are actually playing.
One thing for sure is that it's nice to have the option. All the work MS is putting into making experiences the best they can be should be getting serious praise. I think they're absolutely smashing it.
Gears 5 at 120hz looks sharper than at 60 and as far as I know the resolution doesn't take a hit, so that's maybe one to check.
I expect it'll be hard to show the benefits of this unless people are actually playing.
One thing for sure is that it's nice to have the option. All the work MS is putting into making experiences the best they can be should be getting serious praise. I think they're absolutely smashing it.
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Shodan09
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Excellent news! Investing in backwards compatibility is one of the best decisions they ever made. Now we just need that Perfect Dark Zero 120 fps update...
Silent Viper
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News gave me a boner. WTF.
Must be coz of TF2
Must be coz of TF2
thatJohann
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This is nice and all but I would def prefer they focus on 30fps to 60fps instead
This is what this does. It doubles the framerate. So games that ran at 30 before now run at 60, those that ran at 60 now run at 120.
thatJohann
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Not really. Depends on the games.
This round is mostly 60 - 120fps games.
last time it was mostly 30 - 60fps games.
captainraincoat
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BFv I'm on the fence about.....the server rates are still 30hz and the game never updated to 60hz tick rate like the pc so 120hz is really pointless I think
game looks like the ps5 version in fps mode
game looks like the ps5 version in fps mode
II_JumPeR_I
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Some games need a Resolution boost and not a FPS boost only a small group of users will use...
Battlefield 4 and Battlefront are two games that need a Res boost.
Battlefield 4 and Battlefront are two games that need a Res boost.
120fps is one of the true next gen features these consoles have. I want to see more of that, not less.
II_JumPeR_I
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Cool and not everyone wants that. Cool for you if you like a muddy and very aliased 720p picture on your big ass 4k TV.
720p at 120fps is not nextgen to me.
Res bumps is where its at. And like many said i would rather see some 30 to 60 bumps with Res boost if possible.
Funny how now resolution matters again when after the One X released everyone was saying it didn't.
Derktron
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I'm completely disappointed in this, Xbox does not know how to be fair. I don't understand why Xbox can't do both by making it equal. For example, give an advantage to those who have a 120hz screen and give those who still have a 60hz screen an advantage too. Make it equal, not everyone has a screen that is 120hz. I mean the PS5 has that advantage where they updated some games to run from 30fps to 60fps and it's possible for those who have both 60hz and 120hz screens and you can argue that the games mentioned were already running at 60fps but in my opinion, I don't see it, some games have dips in performance making it hard to even notice that it is running at 60fps. This goes for both consoles, especially the Series S where it feels like a damn OG Xbox One and doesn't feel like it has any performance advantage, and yeah you can bitch that it's weak what the hell do you expect, sure you are correct but again it has the same damn CPU they can do something to make sure all games run at 60fps on the Series S. Its capable to do so, look at Assasins Creed the new one, it can run at 60fps if you change it to performance mode there are so many things I find wrong with this console and I have a feeling that the Series S will not last very long in the coming years.
Anyways enough rambling, I'll just continue waiting for the PS5 so I can sell my Series S or maybe I feel like and get lucky with the Series X I'll get that, and if not I'll just stick with what I have now, my gaming PC which is still very capable.
Anyways enough rambling, I'll just continue waiting for the PS5 so I can sell my Series S or maybe I feel like and get lucky with the Series X I'll get that, and if not I'll just stick with what I have now, my gaming PC which is still very capable.
Resolution boost would be nice but it's probably not what the back compat team would be working on. That's likely to sit with the bigger directx team and then it might go to the back compat team to start testing on older games.
I am still waiting on directml SuperResolution in a game and then let's see if its worth it.
I am still waiting on directml SuperResolution in a game and then let's see if its worth it.
You know there is a way you could have a 120hz screen.
saintjules
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I completely understand what you mean. I feel like there's hidden features in these Consoles that will definitely unlock over time and really push our expectations. I understand it feels weird that these machines are still not capable of performing certain features. All of last year leading up to release, we've been in that next-gen console thread, listening to all these discussions on how powerful these machines are - which I do believe is the case still. It will just take time like anything.
For someone who has both the Series X and PS5, don't sell your S (unless you get the X of course). I think situations like with MLB The Show are going to continue to happen. And if you have something like Gamepass or x game has a better deal on the opposing Console, you can simply say, "I'll just play it on that". Having more options to the player is better than the limitations of just having one machine for the entire generation. Only if you can afford both of course.
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OverHeat
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Having a nextgen console and not a next gen TV is kind of weird
01011001
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01011001
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Mirrors Edge Catalyst is dynamic 900p it just hung around 720p a lot on base Xbox One. it is basically locked 900p on One X and Series consoles tho.
01011001
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for some games Microsoft turns off the One X enhancements in order to have a smoother framerate.
for 120fps games tho they definitely should give us the option to select 2 boost modes, one with the enhanced graphics and one without... because on a VRR screen you will barely even notice framedrops from 120fps. the only real issue would be if it goes below like 90fps, that's when you would really start to notice it, and I doubt it would go below that.
I really hope Microsoft sees how people use this quick resume trick to bypass the resolution reduction and starts implementing an option like this
No, it is not a frameduplication feature. Frameduplication would mean you would use the same frame twice use the next frame to get a frame between to frames. That is not what happens here.
Here just the engine is told that it is time to get the next frame. Because the hardware is so much more powerfull it actually only needed 8.x ms to render a frame that needed 16.x ms to render on the older platforms. So the engine will "just" output more frames per second than before and use the time where it was idling on the new hardware before.
But there is a catch to all this. The gpu & cpu might theoretically be powerfull enough to output the frame in half the time, but this also doubles pressure on the memory. So essentially bandwidth requirements are also doubled. And this is where doubling the framerate of "one x"-enhanced games can get a problem.
The GPU shouldn't be the limiting factor here. Bandwidth on the other hand can get limiting quite fast. The bandwidth of the new generation can therefore be used much more efficient by only loading what is really needed. Therefore we will only see in new titles (that are esspecially written for the platform) what it is really capable of. Also don't forget, that also the CPU needs double the bandwidth because of the doubled FPS.
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TheMay30thMan
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Chris_Rivera
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This doesn't work for BFV, makes you quit the game to make any changes.
Jibran#one
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Whoever has a series x atleast owns a good tv or monitor , atleast most of the owners do I just don't understand 720p games like bf4 to 120 fps when it looks like dogshit on a big 65 inch tv its probably the worst most lowest res game of last gen and doing 120 fps won't change a thing
4k 60 should be the sweet spot for this fps boost thing
Just flexing that ur doing 120 fps on these 720p games is not the way to do it
4k 60 should be the sweet spot for this fps boost thing
Just flexing that ur doing 120 fps on these 720p games is not the way to do it
Nevaeh
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yep looks like they patched it, doesn't work anymore.
jezhumphrey75
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THATS UP TO THE DEVOLOPERS NOT MICROSOFT
