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France to run out of fuel in days as strikes escalate

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NotWii

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Petrol pumps could run dry in France by Wednesday, experts warned yesterday, as the stand-off over pension reforms reached crisis point.

Airlines advised pilots to refuel abroad and UFIP, the country's oil industry association, said that if strikes continued at all 12 of France's refineries, then national shortages would follow.

Christine Lagarde, France's finance minister, said 230 of the country's 13,000 stations were out of fuel and Total, the French oil company, said 350 to 400 petrol stations were suffering disrupted supplies. Shortages looked set to worsen as lorry drivers pledged to halt road transport of fuel to filling stations from last night.

"We have found the means to cope with the worst moments of the crisis so far, but we cannot hold out forever," warned Jean-Louis Schilansky, UFIP's president.

Striking workers continued to block the Fos-Lavera fuel terminal near Marseille, where 61 ships and 47 petrol tankers are unable to offload.


Emergency

"We ran out of gas yesterday already. There's nothing left," said Alpha Sysavane, a worker at a BP station in Paris. "All we have left are a few litres of diesel fuel."

The government has authorised oil companies to use emergency stocks, but has not yet touched its three-week strategic reserves.


One motorist from a village near Fontainbleau said she had driven 30 miles to Paris in order to buy fuel. "At home, the filling stations are closed," said Emilia Scoubel (30), an office worker.

On Saturday, the ecology ministry warned that Roissy Charles de Gaulle, France's main international airport, could run out of fuel today. But yesterday Dominique Bussereau, the transport minister, insisted the pipeline to the airport was now working. However, planes had been advised to fill up before returning to France, he said.

The CGT union complained that the pipeline feeding Paris's airports had been reopened by "untrained executives", warning their action "posed a serious security threat" and was an "unacceptable breach of the right to strike".

President Nicolas Sarkozy is trying to rush through a law raising the legal retirement age from 60 to 62 by Wednesday, but unions hope to strong-arm him into revoking or at least suspending the bill.

On Saturday, more than 825,000 protesters hit the streets in the fifth such demonstrations in a little over a month, though the government suggested that the movement was losing steam.

Unions will meet on Thursday, with one saying it would accept the pension law if it is passed. But others are banking on the government giving ground in the face of another mass street protest on Tuesday. (©Daily Telegraph, London)
http://www.independent.ie/world-new...fuel-in-days-as-strikes-escalate-2383646.html

:lol
Gotta love the french, they don't take shit from their government
The rest of the world can learn a thing or two from them instead of making old frog jokes

Some places apparently have mountains of garbage because the garbage collectors are on strike as well :lol

VIVA LA FRANCE!
 
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Gotta love the french, they don't take shit from their government
The rest of the world can learn a thing or two from them instead of making old frog jokes

Some places apparently have mountains of garbage because the garbage collectors are on strike as well :lol

VIVA LA FRANCE!

OK, but I don't think the french are raising the retirement age from 60-62 just because they are BIG MEANIES. Countries got money trouble, also only 62? Netherlands just pushed this to 66 from 65. fuuuuu
 
Wii said:
Gotta love the french, they don't take shit from their government

Gotta love the French and not thinking more then a few years ahead. Larger part of the population will be 60+ in the coming decades. Who is going to pay for it? The stupid high schoolers who are protesting on those pictures.
 

2San

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Pretty funny all these young people protesting they do know the government is raising the pension age to help them? :lol
 

Zenith

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Whilst I think the French government are a bunch of xenophobic autocrats and it's good to see a country practising people power this

President Nicolas Sarkozy is trying to rush through a law raising the legal retirement age from 60 to 62

really isn't a bad thing. Why didn't you strike over his crazier policies?
 

Funky Papa

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TheBranca18 said:
Those school kids are laughing in those pictures. Do they even know what they're protesting?
The best demonstrations are always the "happy ones". Less chances for rioting, which is a very real concern with certain groups.

It is not like you have to look like a car burning anarchist to make your point...
 

Jedeye Sniv

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FOOTE said:
The French definitely don't let up. They've been fighting this for a while.

And they're fucked becuase of it. You might as well fight the tides for all the good it will do you. People will never ever win versus a government, the gov simply cannot allow it.
 

Alx

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TheBranca18 said:
Those school kids are laughing in those pictures. Do they even know what they're protesting?

Of course not, they're missing class and having a good time with their friends, shouting and singing in the streets. Why wouldn't they be laughing ?
 

ymmv

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TheBranca18 said:
Those school kids are laughing in those pictures. Do they even know what they're protesting?

It's clear they don't. They may not like the pension age reform but the alternative (keep current pension age and then face a financial crisis in the future) is a lot worse.
 

Walshicus

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Retirement age should scale with life expectancy. Sixty-two is a very low retirement age in this day and age. As much of a socialist as I am, the trade unions here are being moronic.
 

raphier

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Alx said:
Of course not, they're missing class and having a good time with their friends, shouting and singing in the streets. Why wouldn't they be laughing ?
I am pretty sure they are just happy that other, possibly familiar people, are supporting their cause in the crowd. Not because they are stupid and uninformed or something.
 

jorma

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Jedeye Sniv said:
And they're fucked becuase of it. You might as well fight the tides for all the good it will do you. People will never ever win versus a government, the gov simply cannot allow it.

smh
 

Zzoram

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Retirement age should definitely scale with life expectancy. When people are living to 80 on average, retiring at 60 means 20 years not working. Considering that most people don't save enough to last 20 years of retirement, the government will be supporting them and it'll be a massive drain on tax dollars.

It also means that most people would be working half or less of their life time.
 

mrklaw

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Oh good. Stupid children protesting about things that they have no idea about and won't affect them for decades. Such Naivety crippling the country, you've got to love it.

they get so worked up about it too. Bless.



fucking idiots. 62? So free education from 3-23 (23 years paid for by the state), work from 25-60 (35 years paying some tax) then retire and live for maybe 30 more years, also funded by the state. How is that supposed to add up, as people live longer, and people have fewer children to actually pay taxes in the first place?
 
I was In Paris over the weekend.. Asked about the strikes.. They don't strike on the weekends..

Guess they needed a day off

Oi!
 

Zzoram

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Dabookerman said:
I was In Paris over the weekend.. Asked about the strikes.. They don't strike on the weekends..

Guess they needed a day off

Oi!

Well if those services were only offered during weekdays, then technically it would only be a strike on weekdays anyways, since a strike is refusal to work.
 

wolfmat

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Jedeye Sniv said:
And they're fucked becuase of it. You might as well fight the tides for all the good it will do you. People will never ever win versus a government, the gov simply cannot allow it.
You're wrong.
 
Always-honest said:
But good to see them fucking around with the government.

Because wasting more money and derailing the economy with actions like these while it is already going slow is such a good idea.
 

wolfmat

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Truant said:
How often do protests actually have a positive effect? Positive meaning the protesters get what they want.
Like, literally get what they want? Never. Get a re-negotiation going? More often than you think.

It's basically like bargaining on a market, just on a different scale.
 

Shanadeus

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Good for them!
Time to teach the governments and corporations that the ones holding real power is the people.

VIVE LA RÉVOLUTION AND BURN IN HELL CAPITALIST FASCIST SCUM!
 
ClosingADoor said:
Because wasting more money and derailing the economy with actions like these while it is already going slow is such a good idea.
yep. For lazy french people it is. It's easier than working more and longer.
 
they only have themselves to blame, they voted for Sarkozy, they voted for the Right Wing party

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if they don't like right wing polices then they shouldn't have voted for Sarko in the first place

Shanadeus said:
Good for them!
Time to teach the governments and corporations that the ones holding real power is the people.

VIVE LA RÉVOLUTION AND BURN IN HELL CAPITALIST FASCIST SCUM!

they were elected democratically, the people chose to be lead by "Capitalist Fascists"
 

Shanadeus

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gutter_trash said:
they were elected democratically, the people chose to be lead by "Capitalist Fascists"
And until they get the chance to vote them off they are using their right to demonstrate to show those pigs what the people want.
 

sphagnum

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gutter_trash said:
they were elected democratically, the people chose to be lead by "Capitalist Fascists"

While I certainly wouldn't call the French government "fascist", this line of reasoning never works. I hate to Godwin, but Hitler was elected and he was a fascist.

Also, it's not like everyone voted for Sarkozy.
 

Shanadeus

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Chet Rippo said:
Shouldn't those kids be doing more important things, like going to school?
Consider this a a practical lesson.
The kids will get first hand experience of the strike process and the negotiations with the public that will follow next.

Pretty educative in my opinion.
 

Althane

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So can someone give me a quick run down on what the deal is here? Why changing the retirement age from 60 to 62 is causing this much headache?
 
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