Well since they are fleeing a place like Syria, I think they will be fine with it. Can't be too picky!
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France Welcomes Refugees Despite Paris Attack
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Well since they are fleeing a place like Syria, I think they will be fine with it. Can't be too picky!
Veritigo_X
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No worries. My post is still relevant to the topic.
Indeed it was. He proposed tests to prove people are Christian. When pressed about this he simply said "You’re a Christian — I mean, you can prove you’re a Christian."
gutter_trash
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I hope they don't shove them all into one mega Ghetto like they did with North Africans workers during reconstruction
best spread them out
best spread them out
Bam Bam Baklava
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Victims are still individuals so they likely differ depending on who you ask.
Outdoor Miner
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MAJOR props to France for setting an example to the whole world and to our fear mongering US Republican governors.
flintstryker
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..er what?
ratcliffja
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Yep. Good on them for loving thy neighbor more than the supposed Christian far right in America.
Around the number germany takes per week.
You can't be serious.
I think most French and Europeans would be firmly behind this.
After all, what people are concerned about is the following:
Letting everyone in without proper security, leading to ISIS terrorists getting into Europe / the country in question, AND
Letting too many refugees in at one time, leading to questions of crime, poverty, unemployment, and possibly non-integrated ghettos where anti-European values and extremism might flourish. And in the case where you've got 1,500,000 people potentially coming into Europe, you worry about the cultural and demographic effect on your country if it wasn't managed properly.
And this plan answers all of that. And if France takes these 30,000 and it works out then take more.
I will say that with these people being as poor and desperate as they are doing background checks will be an absolute nightmare. The educated Syrians who have documentation will be very well placed to be assigned asylum status but your average refugee will suffer a nightmare trying to prove who they are. I'm not sure that can be avoided.
After all, what people are concerned about is the following:
Letting everyone in without proper security, leading to ISIS terrorists getting into Europe / the country in question, AND
Letting too many refugees in at one time, leading to questions of crime, poverty, unemployment, and possibly non-integrated ghettos where anti-European values and extremism might flourish. And in the case where you've got 1,500,000 people potentially coming into Europe, you worry about the cultural and demographic effect on your country if it wasn't managed properly.
And this plan answers all of that. And if France takes these 30,000 and it works out then take more.
I will say that with these people being as poor and desperate as they are doing background checks will be an absolute nightmare. The educated Syrians who have documentation will be very well placed to be assigned asylum status but your average refugee will suffer a nightmare trying to prove who they are. I'm not sure that can be avoided.
excelsiorlef
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Learn from this Poland.
bodyofanamerican
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John Kowalski
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I guess, i was thinking that immigration would shift towards other countries.
RoadHazard
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Here in Sweden we're currently doing about 10K a WEEK, sometimes even more (and no, we can't handle it). France should do more (with all due respect to what has just happened there), the US should do more, the UK should do more, etc. Just about everyone except Sweden and Germany should be doing more than they are.
But yeah, good that they're not closing up completely.
NoblesseOblige
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Good on those with power in the French government to not be swayed by fear and terrorism. I wish my own government had that kind of fortitude.
The German population has been falling (steadily) for like 14 years straight, while France has been climbing up at a fairly standard pace. Germany "need" the refugees.
Anyway, awesome from France.
Super_Cobra
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France going to shut up those GOP idiots?
Future PhaZe
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I'd prefer an international effort to establish a safe haven in a good location. Some place that's specific to their needs that can be of such a high standard of quality that its something that be advertised and praised as a triumph.
But maybe that's wishful thinking.
shadowfall
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That is impressive. To think they are risking public approval to stick to their policy. Bravo. I would not have blamed them if they cited public feedback in reversing their policy.
Veritigo_X
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But to be clear, you don't want these "safe havens" anywhere near you?
liberté, égalité, fraternité.
bodyofanamerican
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Yep, caught my mistake in the my edit. That video clip of Bush talking is just pure cringe.
Tom Nook
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Don't be smart ass, what's wrong with the question? Is this wrong?
shadowfall
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I am not fully up to speed on the refugee situation. But are these refugees going to Asian countries as well? Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan and other middle eastern countries have Muslim population and should be far more welcoming to them.
What was literally the worst nightmare coming true? None of the terrorists involved in these attacks were Syrian refugees, so how would being tougher vetting on Syrian refugees made any difference?
Do those Asian countries give nice Bennies?
shadowfall
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I do not know what Bennies mean. Can you elaborate?
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the next attackers already live in belgium, I don't think accepting syrians will do that much harm...
DragonSworne
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Google says Germany's population is growing.
bigboss370
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I mean, Canada is taking in 25k...by the end of this year. Don't think US is a good measuring stick in this case.
Says its steadily fallen for 10 years on mine, although it ends in 2013. No doubt the migrants/refugees have helped steady the ship and restarted the ascent.
Whatever the case, you gotta be proud of Germany & France in these times.
If that's the case, it's only because of immigration. Germany has the world's lowest birth rate, now even lower than Japan, and they are way, way below replacement rate:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32929962
Newtype-001
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This is good
Due to immigration.
Native population ain't breeding enough, hence the need to inject a massive amounts of immigrants/refugees to prop things up.
It's a great PR boost as well, because their need for maintaining population levels allowed them to take in quite a bit of refugees.
SE Asia has their own refugee crisis at the moment, and they are handling it poorly. A sizable number of the refugees in Europe are from Pakistan and Bangladesh, actually, I suppose they are mostly economic migrants. Asia is far less accessible than Europe for most refugees (many of them travel on foot) and many of the countries you listed are honestly much less desirable to live in than European countries
flintstryker
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What does the victims have to do with the refugees?
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