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Friday Box Office numbers. 2005 - The year of the bombs.

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Title Daily Total
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 7.3 7.3
HOUSE OF WAX 5.0 5.0
CRASH 2.9 2.9
HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY 2.9 27.8
INTERPRETER, THE 2.3 48.0
XXX: STATE OF THE UNION 1.8 16.5
AMITYVILLE HORROR, THE 1.1 57.6
LOT LIKE LOVE, A 1.0 16.5
SAHARA .9 58.8
FEVER PITCH .9 37.7
 

pestul

Member
Yikes.. after all the advertising they put into House of Wax. What was the budget for KoH? That number is atrocious.

It's nice to see XXX2 do so badly. :D
 

siege

Banned
pestul said:
Yikes.. after all the advertising they put into House of Wax. What was the budget for KoH? That number is atrocious.

It's nice to see XXX2 do so badly. :D

$130 million budget for KoH. Keep in mind, these movies typically do better overseas and will most likely do well on DVD.

The epic war movies are pretty much dead in the states. I wouldn't expect many more of them to be made. Comic book movies, stupid comedies, and teenager romance flicks are the only movies that seem to do well at the box office now.
 

siege

Banned
Yeah, Kicking and Screaming will do quite well I think.

Biggest movies of the summer will be Star Wars ofcourse, War of the Worlds, Batman, and The Fantastic Four.
 

Triumph

Banned
siege said:
Yeah, Kicking and Screaming will do quite well I think.

Biggest movies of the summer will be Star Wars ofcourse, War of the Worlds, Batman, and The Fantastic Four.
One of these things is not like the other...
 

Teddman

Member
pestul said:
Yikes.. after all the advertising they put into House of Wax. What was the budget for KoH? That number is atrocious.
Not really that bad... Keep in mind it's just Friday, so they should estimate about $15 and $21 million respectively for the weekend, which is so-so.
 

nitewulf

Member
actually two of these, starwars and fantastic four will both suck. ok may be this star wars will finally be good, who knows.
but batman and war of the worlds will blow everything away.
 

Memles

Member
Teddman said:
Not really that bad... Keep in mind it's just Friday, so they should estimate about $15 and $21 million respectively for the weekend, which is so-so.

Yep...Kingdom of Heaven isn't doing badly for an R-Rated (I think) war epic that's not exactly short. Let's face it...the biggest successes this summer will be the big films and the big films only. Big budget or not, Kingdom of Heaven has only "Director of Gladiator" and "Starring Legolas" to really play with, and has no chance of doing big business. Even Troy had Pitt, and a more recognizable subject matter, which is why it made its $133 Million...Kingdom will struggle to get to $80, but Troy's Worldwide gross was huge; it broke almost $500 Million worldwide. Alexander also performed well overseas. North America is simply rejecting large-scale, historical war epics.

I expect Star Wars to perform well, and I think War of the Worlds will be a big success overall, but I'm not so sure on Batman. I think it will be very good, but I don't think it will be a huge box office success. Fantastic Four...just no. It lacks a major star to carry it, and I have little faith in its success.
 
Raoul Duke said:
One of these things is not like the other...

:lol

What about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? I imagine I'll see it a couple times. I saw the Life Aquatic four times in theaters :D
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Kingdom of Heaven is bombing because well... what was interesting in the trailers? Nothing... oh goodie another large scale battlefield.... ho hum....
 

siege

Banned
olimario said:
I'm glad nobody is seeing Kingdom of Heaven. Too long and too slow.
And House of Wax is just shit.

Too long and too slow for teenagers maybe. For those of us with an actual attention span, it's fine.
 

olimario

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siege said:
Too long and too slow for teenagers maybe. For those of us with an actual attention span, it's fine.
 

RevenantKioku

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olimario said:
And House of Wax is just shit.

They should have remade 1996's lesser known Erotic House of Wax.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Solid said:
But but America loves war! All they do is to go to war! war movies should sell!!11
If you're English or French, I should bop you over the head, especially since you fought for over 100 years over fucking sheep (and the end-results of the war were that they reverted to the same positions they had been at at the start of the war.
 

Shinobi

Member
Solid said:
But but America loves war! All they do is to go to war! war movies should sell!!11

This true when they've had two or three years of 'em. But it's been a non-stop barrage of war movies for the better part of a decade now. As with all things, it goes in cycles.
 
Memles said:
Yep...Kingdom of Heaven isn't doing badly for an R-Rated (I think) war epic that's not exactly short. Let's face it...the biggest successes this summer will be the big films and the big films only. Big budget or not, Kingdom of Heaven has only "Director of Gladiator" and "Starring Legolas" to really play with, and has no chance of doing big business. Even Gladiator had Pitt, and a more recognizable subject matter, which is why it made its $133 Million...Kingdom will struggle to get to $80, but Troy's Worldwide gross was huge; it broke almost $500 Million worldwide. Alexander also performed well overseas. North America is simply rejecting large-scale, historical war epics.

You're thinking of Troy, good sir, a movie which made far more than it deserved. The original Gladiator, however, was a huge box office smash. North America's rejection of his bombastic war movies, epic only in their vacuousness, brings a tear of joy to my eye. I've heard good things about King of Heaven, though, so I'll probably check it out. If it's good, I may have to rethink Orlando Bloom's status as my mortal enemy.
 

Memles

Member
OpinionatedCyborg said:
You're thinking of Troy, good sir, a movie which made far more than it deserved. The original Gladiator, however, was a huge box office smash. North America's rejection of his bombastic war movies, epic only in their vacuousness, brings a tear of joy to my eye. I've heard good things about King of Heaven, though, so I'll probably check it out. If it's good, I may have to rethink Orlando Bloom's status as my mortal enemy.

D'oh. Got running on Ridley Scott auto-pilot.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
A. i think people are really tired of 3 hour medieval "epics" that consist of nothing but battles and a few plot scenes to string them together

B. its too soon to revive the teenage slasher genre AGAIN

C. crash looks like a bad MTV special
 

Santo

Junior Member
Saw Crash last night. Quite a decent movie, if not overdone at a few parts. It's underlying message couldn't be any more true though.
 
Memles said:
Even Troy had Pitt, and a more recognizable subject matter, which is why it made its $133 Million...

I disagree on the recognizable subject matter. I believe the crusades are at least as well known as a whole as Troy is. But the advantage of Troy is the way it is already compressed as a coherent story, thanks to Homer (even though archeological evidence suggests it was a long war).

The Crusades are an exciting but muddled and complicated part of history and thus a greater challenge to bring to the movies, IMHO.

I'm not blaming this for the apparent lack of success for KoH this early on, I'd be more inclined to blame marketing in this case.
 

pestul

Member
Manders said:
don';t know. not doing so well on hsx. previews don't look funny. no real desire to see it for me.
The previews for Elf were pretty lame too.. and look how that turned out (sure you might still think it was lame, but the boxoffice was good). Farrell is pretty much money in the bank.
 

Manders

Banned
pestul said:
The previews for Elf were pretty lame too.. and look how that turned out (sure you might still think it was lame, but the boxoffice was good). Farrell is pretty much money in the bank.


elf had a good concept though. kicking and screaming's concept has been done hundreds of times. granted, the movie will still make money, but i don't see it making over $60 million domestically.
 

siege

Banned
Saturday Estimates:

1. Kingdom of Heaven $7,200,000
2. House of Wax $4,480,000
3. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy $4,075,000
4. Crash $3,700,000
5. The Interpreter $3,335,000
6. XxX: State of the Union $2,300,000
7. The Amityville Horror $1,380,000
8. Sahara $1,335,000
9. A lot like love $1,260,000
10. Fever Pitch $920,000
 

pestul

Member
siege said:
Saturday Estimates:

1. Kingdom of Heaven $7,200,000
2. House of Wax $4,480,000
3. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy $4,075,000
4. Crash $3,700,000
5. The Interpreter $3,335,000
6. XxX: State of the Union $2,300,000
7. The Amityville Horror $1,380,000
8. Sahara $1,335,000
9. A lot like love $1,260,000
10. Fever Pitch $920,000
Healthy Saturday boost for HHGTTG
 
I waited my whole life for modern and epic movies such as Alexander, Troy, Gladiator, LOTR, and Kingdom of Heaven. They were always something I wanted to see. The problem with making them is that the majority of people don't like regular sword fighting and most of these movies are male centric so they really only appeal to men.

Of course LOTR is the big exception to this most likely because it deals with the mystical and has more characters that one can relate to. It is also based upon a more recognizable and legendary (due to the history of the novels) storyline.

I'll understand if they stop making the epic sword movies but I am glad they attempted them once again. Had it never happened I'd still be waiting for my big budget gladitorial combat film.
 
Manders said:
don';t know. not doing so well on hsx. previews don't look funny. no real desire to see it for me.

ELF didn't look like that funny from the trailers either (though that was the holiday season), neither do any of Adam Sandler's movies, yet they still somehow manage to pull in $3 billion.
 

Manders

Banned
told you all i was right

kicking and screaming bombed

Will Ferrell's new little league soccer comedy, Kicking & Screaming, took the second spot with $20.9 million. The Universal release debuted in 3,455 theaters and averaged $6,035

monster in law beat it!!! :lol :lol
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Especially when most kids arent done with school yet. This movie could get a boost in a couple weeks when schools start to get out
 
Kicking and Screaming did just fine.

The true bomb of this weekend was Mindhunters. Renny Harlin is a modern day Red Baron, constatly aiming for the studios hopes and dreams and shooting them down. He even took down an entire studio with Cutthroat Island! Well, not him alone, but he's still a dastardly bastard, yessiree!
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Cyan said:
$20.9 million is a bomb? We're not talking about a massive action blockbuster here; that number is quite respectable. There's no way the budget was more than $30 million. It'll easily make that back and then some in the next few weeks.
BOM lists the budget as $45 million.

Still, gotta agree with everything else. People have to learn to think and stop believing that any film released in the summer that doesn't grab tens and tens of millions on opening weekend is somehow a bomb. It's ludicrous.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Duck of Death said:
Kicking and Screaming did just fine.

The true bomb of this weekend was Mindhunters. Renny Harlin is a modern day Red Baron, constatly aiming for the studios hopes and dreams and shooting them down. He even took down an entire studio with Cutthroat Island!


Well considering I saw the trailer for the movie over a year and a half ago I dont think the studio was actually expecting it to do well.
 

Drozmight

Member
I saw Kingdom of Heaven and loved it this weekend. Seemed for the most part historically accurate and made for an awesome story.
 

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Whether it will or not is irrelevant to me, but KoH fucking deserves to bomb. That movie was atrocious. Only Troy was worse, imho. Well, perhaps Alexandar and King Arthur as well, but I wasn't brave enough to go see those.
 

Drozmight

Member
Mejilan said:
Whether it will or not is irrelevant to me, but KoH fucking deserves to bomb. That movie was atrocious. Only Troy was worse, imho. Well, perhaps Alexandar and King Arthur as well, but I wasn't brave enough to go see those.

how so?
 

Solid

Member
Drozmight said:
I saw Kingdom of Heaven and loved it this weekend. Seemed for the most part historically accurate and made for an awesome story.
Yeah the movie rocks! Almost on par with Troy! Almost! :)
 

siege

Banned
Pretty sad when a J-lo movie makes almost as much in one weekend than Kingdom of Heaven has made in 2 weeks domestically. That's the US for you though.
 
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