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[Sephzilla]

Then stop relying on others to win? Most of the streamers I watch don't even communicate at all with their teammates and end up getting away the majority of the time. I

I've survived doing it lone wolf style, working with teammates, and by just piggybacking off of other people's early game successes. Sometimes it just depends on some luck and the skill level of the Jason.

 

[giancarlo123x]

I just think the game would be a tad more varied if everyone was a different counselor and thus had to play to that counselors strengths and weaknesses. If everyone's goth girl the game will simply devolve into people hiding in woods constantly. I also think everyone being a different counselor would help put a spotlight on which characters are a bit broken or weak.

I'm down with this, would bring more variety and I'm tired of seeing the same 3 characters.

 

[Sephzilla]

I'm down with this, would bring more variety and I'm tired of seeing the same 3 characters.

The downside would be that you'd probably get a ton of quitters because they got one of the "bad ones"

 

[Lee Chaolan]

An offline mode with bots is coming, no actual story campaign as far as I know though.

People just keep mistaking "single player mode" for a campaign.

While a Story mode would be cool, I'd be find with Single player with bots and objectives, would be fun enough when you cant get matches going or friends aren't online.

but also jason? eh?

Hmm...I would have both, yes...

hmm...

 

[giancarlo123x]

The downside would be that you'd probably get a ton of quitters because they got one of the "bad ones"

Let those nerds quit, I think it will encourage more teamwork to cover each other's weaknesses. At this time there's no reason for AJ to really hang out with anyone once it comes down to about the final 4, if their are 4 of them hiding in a random bush of the forest it's boring as shit for Jason to look for them.

 

[Spman2099]

I just think the game would be a tad more varied if everyone was a different counselor and thus had to play to that counselors strengths and weaknesses. If everyone's goth girl the game will simply devolve into people hiding in woods constantly. I also think everyone being a different counselor would help put a spotlight on which characters are a bit broken or weak.

I agree with this. Absolutely. At least make it so that there would be no more than two of the same counselor. Also, you could have people choose their top three counselors, that way you can still have some choice. I do think the game would be better if there was more variety. I like Kim a lot, so I want to stick with her, but I also think she is way better than almost all the other counselors. I think they definitely need to re-balance their counselors a little as well.

 

[groansey]

Given that the Kickstarter "exclusive" skin was offered subsequently on BackerKit for $6 and given that it's turned out to be a unique version of Jason with a unique weapon and perkset, rather than an aesthetic skin, I have a real problem with the dev team releasing a "tough luck if you missed out" statement today.

It's an unnecessary divisive and uncompromising stance, plus poor consumer relations given the technical problems at launch. You're telling customers who backed the game two years ago they're locked out of $6 of content because they didn't "believe" in the game or check their e-mails.

Self-important arseholes. Way to lose a lot of goodwill.

 

[Sephzilla]

Let those nerds quit, I think it will encourage more teamwork to cover each other's weaknesses. At this time there's no reason for AJ to really hang out with anyone once it comes down to about the final 4, if their are 4 of them hiding in a random bush of the forest it's boring as shit for Jason to look for them.

I'd be more ok with this mindset if host migration was a thing.

Given that the Kickstarter "exclusive" skin was offered subsequently on BackerKit for $6 and given that it's turned out to be a unique version of Jason with a unique weapon and perkset, rather than an aesthetic skin, I have a real problem with the dev team releasing a "tough luck if you missed out" statement today.

It's an unnecessary divisive and uncompromising stance, plus poor consumer relations given the technical problems at launch. You're telling customers who backed the game two years ago they're locked out of $6 of content because they didn't "believe" in the game. Self-important arseholes.

Way to lose a lot of goodwill.

Honestly yeah, I think I'm with you here. I didn't even know an exclusive Jason skin was going to be a thing with the kickstarter. Release it as DLC and jack up the price a little for it. Or maybe unlock Savini Jason for everyone who bought it on release day as a "we're sorry" for the server issues

 

[alexbull_uk]

How is the performance on PS4 (Pro)? Game looks like a lot of fun, but I'll wait for polish if it's a bit janky.

 

[halfbeast]

Spoiler

(she's bi)

 

[Sephzilla]

How is the performance on PS4 (Pro)? Game looks like a lot of fun, but I'll wait for polish if it's a bit janky.

I've played the game on both a PS4 and a PS4 Pro. Game runs pretty smoothly.

 

[dolabla]

Do us $75 Kickstarter donors get that skin too?

 

[Lettuce]

Ahh, do I buy it today...but Tekken is out tonight

Wouldnt bother, servers are still borked

 

[Tek]

An offline mode with bots is coming, no actual story campaign as far as I know though.

People just keep mistaking "single player mode" for a campaign.

Well whatever the objectives will be will at least make it more interesting than just bots.

Does the game have single player?

The game will include single player, however it will come as an update in Summer 2017. We originally started as a multiplayer only game but were able to secure additional funding to expand the game. Single player will consist of objective-based missions where you take control of Jason. You’ll get to see missions that will remind you of the movies, as well as entirely new scenarios to sink your machete into!

We will also include offline counselor bots that you’ll be able to fight against without needing an online connection!

 

[Brandwin]

Do us $75 Kickstarter donors get that skin too?

I don't think so. So yes, you backed it more than double the digital game, but nope, no Savini for you, even though they said Savini was for people who believed and backed the game...

 

[Tempy]

Given that the Kickstarter "exclusive" skin was offered subsequently on BackerKit for $6 and given that it's turned out to be a unique version of Jason with a unique weapon and perkset, rather than an aesthetic skin, I have a real problem with the dev team releasing a "tough luck if you missed out" statement today.

It's an unnecessary divisive and uncompromising stance, plus poor consumer relations given the technical problems at launch. You're telling customers who backed the game two years ago they're locked out of $6 of content because they didn't "believe" in the game or check their e-mails.

Self-important arseholes. Way to lose a lot of goodwill.

LOL. Get over yourself. You're not entitled to anything.

I didn't even know an exclusive Jason skin was going to be a thing with the kickstarter.

Then you weren't paying any attention.

I didn't even back the Kickstarter and I knew about the exclusive Jason.

 

[Sephzilla]

Then you weren't paying any attention.

That's a poor excuse. A lot of people didn't even know this game existed until it hit the PSN/Steam/XBL store

 

[Tempy]

That's a poor excuse. A lot of people didn't even know this game existed until it hit the PSN/Steam/XBL store

C'mon. It was touted as a Kickstarter exclusive. They would have broken their promise if they didn't make it exclusive anymore.

 

[groansey]

C'mon. It was touted as a Kickstarter exclusive. They would have broken their promise if they didn't make it exclusive anymore.

They broke that promise when they made it available on Backer Kit.

And they're refusing people who backed on Kickstarter at the 'wrong' tier and for whatever reason were only aware of this at launch.

 

[Sephzilla]

C'mon. It was touted as a Kickstarter exclusive. They would have broken their promise if they didn't make it exclusive anymore.

They technically have already broken that promise then. Also, I'll be the guy who says "if a AAA publisher locked this behind a preorder bonus people would probably be furious"

 

[mechashiva]

Given that the Kickstarter "exclusive" skin was offered subsequently on BackerKit for $6 and given that it's turned out to be a unique version of Jason with a unique weapon and perkset, rather than an aesthetic skin, I have a real problem with the dev team releasing a "tough luck if you missed out" statement today.

It's an unnecessary divisive and uncompromising stance, plus poor consumer relations given the technical problems at launch. You're telling customers who backed the game two years ago they're locked out of $6 of content because they didn't "believe" in the game or check their e-mails.

Self-important arseholes. Way to lose a lot of goodwill.

It was clear on the original campaign that it was just for the kickstarter. The backerkit was goodwill. I pledged a higher level because I wanted it.

 

[Tempy]

They broke that promise when they made it available on Backer Kit.

And they're refusing people who backed on Kickstarter at the 'wrong' tier and for whatever reason were only aware of this at launch.

They technically have already broken that promise then. Also, I'll be the guy who says "if a AAA publisher locked this behind a preorder bonus people would probably be furious"

Backerkit rewards were only available to Kickstarter supporters as a response to reward tier confusions. So please, it's still Kickstarter-exclusive. Failing to read updates and not making use of your Backerkit option to purchase the Savini skin is not their fault. Stop being entitled and blaming your own stupidity on the developer. It's sad.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I see clean wipes 4/5 games. Being the last survivors or two just isn't fun, especially in lobbies without mics. It's almost always a guaranteed death sentence. You have no idea where to look for dead bodies who might have potential items.

I don't care how close it sticks to the movies if it's not fun. It's not even sticking close in its current state anyways with absolutely no survivors in most of the games I play. It's not a matter of taste. It's shitty design.

I never have an inkling of hope as the last survivors with no active objectives. At least follow Dead By Daylight and scale the difficulty according to the amount of survivors that are left. Survivors still day in DBD nearly always, but at least you feel like you have a fighting chance when it lowers the required generators.

Just got done with 4 games in a row, each had at least 2 counselors survive, some had more. I don't see Jason even wiping entire camps rarely

 

[Spman2099]

I don't like this sort of "backer exclusive" stuff, but I think if you make something backer exclusive you have to stand behind that. That being said, they should definitely make the next Jason have the same abilities as that Jason, that way there is no gameplay advantage, its just a unique aesthetic.

If you want to be angry at them for making something like that exclusive in the first place, that is one thing, but I think it is a little ridiculous to criticize them for standing by their promise. Calling the devs "self-important arseholes" is just petulant and completely unnecessary.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Wouldnt bother, servers are still borked

Yeah...I'll be pissed if I buy it for 40 but still have trouble getting into games.

I may just wait until the buy 100 promo to get the extra 15 with it.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I just think the game would be a tad more varied if everyone was a different counselor and thus had to play to that counselors strengths and weaknesses. If everyone's goth girl the game will simply devolve into people hiding in woods constantly. I also think everyone being a different counselor would help put a spotlight on which characters are a bit broken or weak.

At the same time, if everyone is playing the same counselors or choosing the same few ones each time, it kinda tells the devs who needs fixing.

 

[Spman2099]

Just got done with 4 games in a row, each had at least 2 counselors survive, some had more. I don't see Jason even wiping entire camps rarely

I have had four games since he wrote that comment. All of those games had multiple survivors. I just don't think it is possible that anywhere near 4/5 matches are ending in wipes. Unless he is pairing with the worst players, that is...

 

[Sephzilla]

I don't like this sort of "backer exclusive" stuff, but I think if you make something backer exclusive you have to stand behind that. That being said, they should definitely make the next Jason have the same abilities as that Jason, that way there is no gameplay advantage, its just a unique aesthetic.

I think that would be a nice compromise. A DLC Jason who has the same stats as Savini Jason, just not the same cool skin. And yeah, I don't like "backer exclusive" stuff because it's basically just a gentler kinder way to say "pre order bonus"

At the same time, if everyone is playing the same counselors or choosing the same few ones each time, it kinda tells the devs who needs fixing.

good point!

 

[def sim]

If it were only a skin, I don't think people would be as upset. Missing out on a full fledged character with its own unique traits is not so easy to swallow- worse so that many people didn't even know about it until after release.

As far as locking people to random counselors, limiting how people can play the game would surely be unpopular in most casual social circles. Not everyone can play the athletic counselor meant for juking Jason. It's also an overly competitive approach to take for this kind of game. Providing additional customization options such as clothing packs should be enough for variety.

 

[Brandwin]

If it were only a skin, I don't think people would be as upset. Missing out on a full fledged character with its own unique traits is not so easy to swallow- worse so that many people didn't even know about it until after release.

As far as locking people to random counselors, limiting how people can play the game would surely be unpopular in most casual social circles. Not everyone can play the athletic counselor meant for juking Jason. It's also an overly competitive approach to take for this kind of game. Providing additional customization options such as clothing packs should be enough for variety.

Yep. It's why I didn't buy the "skin". It was labeled as that, a skin. I don't buy cosmetic DLC, so I had no use for it. If I would have known it was more than just a skin, I definitely would have dropped $6. I would probably went with $10. But, nothing I can do now.

Game is a blast and I will buy future DLC "skins".

 

[groansey]

Backerkit rewards were only available to Kickstarter supporters as a response to reward tier confusions. So please, it's still Kickstarter-exclusive. Failing to read updates and not making use of your Backerkit option to purchase the Savini skin is not their fault. Stop being entitled and blaming your own stupidity on the developer. It's sad.

Sorry, Donald.

 

[Spman2099]

As far as locking people to random counselors, limiting how people can play the game would surely be unpopular in most casual social circles. Not everyone can play the athletic counselor meant for juking Jason. It's also an overly competitive approach to take for this kind of game. Providing additional customization options such as clothing packs should be enough for variety.

I can see that logic, I would argue that a little middle ground would be nice. Like, let there be a certain amount of duplicates. I also don't think it is necessarily about being competitive, it would also lend to the atmosphere, as it would put you in a situation where you would need to adapt a little more.

Once again, I see why some people would be turned off, but I also think there is some real value to the idea

 

[Sephzilla]

For me, personally, pre-order bonuses that never become available as DLC later on is an across the board bad idea, especially when it's for something that actually affects gameplay and isn't just cosmetic. It also actively punishes the people who want to support you but didn't know about the game until post-release. Plus, from a common sense perspective, you're turning down the chance to make even more money. And considering they've apparently almost tripled their sales expectations, that's a lot of potential extra dough to be had that people would gladly pay for.

 

[dolabla]

I don't think so. So yes, you backed it more than double the digital game, but nope, no Savini for you, even though they said Savini was for people who believed and backed the game...

I wish they would give us Kickstarter donors an opportunity to obtain it by purchasing; especially since it was on Backerkit. Sucks, but I guess they did give me a digital copy for delaying the physical copy.

 

[Tempy]

I wish they would give us Kickstarter donors an opportunity to obtain it by purchasing; especially since it was on Backerkit. Sucks, but I guess they did give me a digital copy for delaying the physical copy.

...but they did. That's what BackerKit is for - to enable Kickstarter backers to purchase additional add-ons like the Savini Jason.

 

[rrc1594]

I didn't know the new movie got canned

 

[Morgoth]

I can see that logic, I would argue that a little middle ground would be nice. Like, let there be a certain amount of duplicates. I also don't think it is necessarily about being competitive, it would also lend to the atmosphere, as it would put you in a situation where you would need to adapt a little more.

Once again, I see why some people would be turned off, but I also think there is some real value to the idea

You can choose what counselor and Jason you want to play as. when in a lobby you are able to do this.

 

[dolabla]

...but they did. That's what BackerKit is for - to enable Kickstarter backers to purchase additional add-ons like the Savini Jason.

The thing was confusing. I didn't know that at the time. I thought Backerkit was something totally separate. I wish they would extend it and limit it to one purchase per Kickstarter donor and give us an opportunity to get it.

 

[spannicus]

Pretty sure that Savini skin and more will be coming down the road. Hopefully more skins/maps/ guest counselors.

 

[PushingButtons]

For me, personally, pre-order bonuses that never become available as DLC later on is an across the board bad idea, especially when it's for something that actually affects gameplay and isn't just cosmetic. It also actively punishes the people who want to support you but didn't know about the game until post-release. Plus, from a common sense perspective, you're turning down the chance to make even more money. And considering they've apparently almost tripled their sales expectations, that's a lot of potential extra dough to be had that people would gladly pay for.

I feel the same way. I didn't really hear about this game until the Kickstarter ended and not until it was too late to still get in on the Savini Jason.

It's frustrating and I would gladly throw $10 at the game for that Jason. While it's admirable that the team is sticking to their guns about it I can't help but think it's really foolish at the same time. They're basically ignoring a decent chunk of change being thrown at them.

 

[Tempy]

Maybe they could hold a contest where fans design their own Jason, and people vote for their favorite, and give that out for free as an apology of sorts for all the issues?

 

[spannicus]

Any news on ps4 patch. These wait times are atrocious.

 

[groansey]

...but they did. That's what BackerKit is for - to enable Kickstarter backers to purchase additional add-ons like the Savini Jason.

Then why the arbitrary deadline of March. Why not let us buy it still?

And why do do those who have the skin feel the need to shit on fellow KS backers?

 

[jviggy43]

Xbox community, I'll be running some private matches around 7:30 EST time if anyone wants a group to play with. GT ThnkuDiane, message me if you want in.

 

[Ducayne]

So what ever happened with the "Xbox is running a beta version?"

Was it fixed/patched? Will my progress transfer over if that's true and it still needs a patch?

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Good. Glad to see them standing firm on that shit. Nothing I hate worse then something being exclusive made available later to everyone. You say you're gonna do something then fucking do it. Besides that skin is no different then any of the others. I've seen them kick ass and I've seen em have all 8 counselors get away. Other Jasons have the same basic setup as they do too. The only damn difference is the pitchfork instead of the spear or axe.

Whatever you do, don't visit the Reddit thread on the matter if you wish to avoid a headache.

 

[Barrel Cannon]

So are the servers still crap? The reviews are all saying that but the game sounds like something I would enjoy. Should I just wait?

 

[Lan Dong Mik]

How is the performance on PS4 (Pro)? Game looks like a lot of fun, but I'll wait for polish if it's a bit janky.

Matchmaking is still fucked, but when you actually get into a game it's so much fun, and runs great! I have a PS4 Pro. The matchmaking issues are a fucking HUGE issue tho. If you need to use matchmaking I wouldn't recommend buying this yet. I just like to get quick games in here and there so I'm never really looking to join up with a group of friends/gaffers unless it's later at night when it's not so busy at my house, so the matchmaking issue is a huge bummer.

I've got into one game today.

Actually make that two, at the 19 min mark I literally just found a game lol

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

6 in a row and all of them escaped feels good except for the one where i drove off with the fuse and left 2 people to die that could of repaired the box and called the cops i feel bad for that one but the rest were amazing

So are the servers still crap? The reviews are all saying that but the game sounds like something I would enjoy. Should I just wait?

pc or consoles? the pc version is just fine games only take 15-20 seconds to get into
all the complaints i hear come from people on consoles

 

[alexbull_uk]

Matchmaking is still fucked, but when you actually get into a game it's so much fun, and runs great! I have a PS4 Pro. The matchmaking issues are a fucking HUGE issue tho. If you need to use matchmaking I wouldn't recommend buying this yet. I just like to get quick games in here and there so I'm never really looking to join up with a group of friends/gaffers unless it's later at night when it's not so busy at my house, so the matchmaking issue is a huge bummer.

I've got into one game today.

Actually make that two, at the 19 min mark I literally just found a game lol

Ouch. I didn't realize the matchmaking was that bad.

Have the devs acknowledged it? Don't think I'll bother until it's sorted out as I don't have anyone to play it with on my friends list.