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From Tupac to Rosa Parks: KY county clerk Kim Davis says "Only God can judge me now"
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teruterubozu
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No, her son is a clerk that works in the same office. He is refusing to give licenses too.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
I'm not arguing what is the correct interpretation of the Bible regarding this issue; my argument is that there's a plausible interpretation under which her ongoing relationship with her current husband isn't sinful. The claim that she's hypocritical relies on the further claim that she must adopt the interpretation that you attribute to "one of the largest denominations." But I don't see that as the only plausible interpretation, so you'd have to go one step further--show that she actually believes her own current relationship is sinful--to show hypocrisy.
I don't follow. We're discussing the statutory term "absence," so I don't see how the Kentucky Constitution is relevant.
Again, I don't follow. If the statutory concept of "absence" does not include the situation where the deputies continue to fulfill the duties of the office, then we'd have to consider whether the deputies are continuing to fulfill those duties. It seems like you're begging the question regarding whether "absence" applies in that scenario or not.
The authorization is preprinted on the license form, as I understand it. So, the clerk doesn't have to be physically present for the authorization to appear on the form. This doesn't help resolve the meaning of "absence."
No. I'm arguing that there is a plausible interpretation of the Bible in which a person who divorces and remarries prior to conversion does not commit adultery when he or she sleeps with his or her second spouse following conversion.
Honestly, it doesn't seem like you felt like arguing it at any point.
There's one out there specifically for fundies that got around this to support one of those homophobic bakeries a few months back. Their TOS didn't seem to mention anything about illegal activities.
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Someone out there right now is coding a "politically incorrect" fundraising site to capitalize on this.
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Never mind.
mug
Love the 6-66 above her head.
They're just waiting to get slapped with aiding and abetting, then.
Dreams-Visions
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Angelus Errare
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Can't say I feel bad for her at all. Maybe she can spread the word of Gawd in prison as she talks about her 4 marriages.
TheOctodad
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Can't they just seize these donations since they funded illegal activities and sue (and possibly arrest) the owners of the site?
Wouldn't they just have to word the petition correctly?
Like "Help our friend's family while she's in jail"
It's not illegal to give someone money who has committed crimes.
Walter White Walker
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Well deserved.
I can't see how Steven Seagal would do in the role.
For the love of god, every thread about this: Who cares if a bunch of bigots get together to make another bigot rich?
This money isn't appearing out of thin air! Bigots who hate gay people already had this money! It's a zero-sum game in the bigot economy, the bigots are not getting rich off of this, ther're just transferring their bigot wealth.
I don't care if this lady makes $1 Billion Bigot-Bucks outta this deal, because the law of the land regarding equal marriage will have been upheld and a bunch of other bigots will be $1 Billion worse off.
This money isn't appearing out of thin air! Bigots who hate gay people already had this money! It's a zero-sum game in the bigot economy, the bigots are not getting rich off of this, ther're just transferring their bigot wealth.
I don't care if this lady makes $1 Billion Bigot-Bucks outta this deal, because the law of the land regarding equal marriage will have been upheld and a bunch of other bigots will be $1 Billion worse off.
Citadelofmythoughts
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Louise Fletcher. This woman is just as sanctimonious and bitchy as Adami Winn.
Fenderputty
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Dreams-Visions
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No contest
WOAH.
Gotta agree. Let other bigots throw good money after bad.
Chmpocalypse
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More like awwwwwsome! : D
Well at least one judge was thinking straight today.
I'm sorry but as I grow older I'm becoming less enchanted with religion, and stories like are why.
I'm a good Catholic boy, but damn, we are making decisions based on the word of a man or entity that is as real as Santa clause?
I mean yeah obviously wars have been fought over beliefs for centuries, it just boggles my mind though... How the rationale of this world works.
I'm sorry but as I grow older I'm becoming less enchanted with religion, and stories like are why.
I'm a good Catholic boy, but damn, we are making decisions based on the word of a man or entity that is as real as Santa clause?
I mean yeah obviously wars have been fought over beliefs for centuries, it just boggles my mind though... How the rationale of this world works.
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shadowsdarknes
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not sure if already posted, but her lawyers on Facebook:
Ah yes. The "liberty" fighters on Facebook.
Nevermind people's liberties to legally enter a marriage contract without someone infringing on their rights.
Liberty only means my liberty. Fuck everyone else's liberty.
This is how these "liberty" advocates work. Elect us so we can leave you alone!
Bornstellar
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Way to generalize.
not sure if already posted, but her lawyers on Facebook:
At least that lady wrecking them got nearly as many likes as their post. That's something.
That was about one specific editorial and how it was written; not every religious person talks in humble-brags and confusing double-speak. Ironically you accusing me of generalizing is sort of assuming that all religious people act the same way.
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It still blows my mind when people say "Kentucky didn't vote for same-sex marriage!!" as if they truly don't know that the Supreme Court is higher law to interpret the constitution, and can rule state laws unconstitutional. It doesn't matter what Kentucky voted for if there's already final word from the Supreme Court on the laws that exist, but they keep mentioning that Kim was just abiding by the will of Kentucky over and over.
Bornstellar
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That's my bad then, I misunderstood.
The guy I quoted was generalizing; my train of thought was about reading the Fox News article.
No big deal; I can see where it comes across like I'm one-upping the generalization. I do understand many religious people; I do not understand the ones who use their religion to place themselves on a pedestal while simultaneously claiming they are just humble servants.
PHOENIXZERO
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Well now she's really been turned into a hero/martyr for the right... Great.
Let them have their martyr. They were going to find one anyway as they go kicking and screaming.
The good news is that this stupid hateful shit is not going to fly.
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Mr_Antimatter
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It is. Now they have to explain why believing the law should be inferior to religious ideology is the proper course for America, and how that is any different from the Sharia law they claim to hate so much.
Daaaamn.not sure if already posted, but her lawyers on Facebook:
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How will they do this is beyond my knowledge.
Unfortunately all too easy for them to explain.
They do not believe the U.S. Government is secular; it and it's laws are Christian. They believe Christianity is the right way, Islam the wrong way.
You Know Nothing
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Clutching my pearls at this language.
Isnt that what will happen to bigots in their bigot media?
Thequietone
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They asked him earlier about it and said he had no knowledge of this news story and had no comment. Might be another day at least before he has an official stance on this.
Oh no, now she'll probably get a book deal and time on Fox News and fuck all else!! The horror!!!
Please. This is Joe The Plumber part 2. And the sequels always lose something.
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