Yep, I saw that and laughed. He's definitely aware of the issue's existence, but at the time probably wasn't up to date on the developments. I'm looking forward to seeing which way he chooses. The calculations on this one are such that one position is poison in the general, while the other position is poison in the primary.
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From Tupac to Rosa Parks: KY county clerk Kim Davis says "Only God can judge me now"
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Yep, I saw that and laughed. He's definitely aware of the issue's existence, but at the time probably wasn't up to date on the developments. I'm looking forward to seeing which way he chooses. The calculations on this one are such that one position is poison in the general, while the other position is poison in the primary.
An it please the court, Your Honor, you are "a butt."
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I don't think he is going for the Evangelic vote, more for the Racist and Clueless vote. While there may be some overlap, I suspect he will shrug it off, in that way of his, if asked.
If forced to guess, that's my hunch too.
Where this comes into play and makes it potentially damaging for the general is a situation where he gets the nomination and evangelical turnout is down - even if it's just by a few percentage points - because they think he's okay with "Christian persecution."
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
"How I fought the government and lost"
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Wait, that's not spun enough. Also not playing the victim enough.
"My Fight Against the Godless Heathens: How I was forced into jail so I could practice my religion"
That's closer.
I do believe I have the vapors.
Now that's a NYT best seller.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Not sure how anything else could have been done.
In part it was also about preventing others from doing the same thing. She is only the most visible of the fuckwits, not the only.
Someone fetch us our fainting couches.
HUELEN10
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Oh WOW. That is just a delicious coincidence.
Don't understand the comments like this. Should she not be punished at all because otherwise she will be a martyr? Because I think that is a worse outcome; to let someone who willfully breaks the law go unpunished.
No matter how light of a punishment she got, she would be deemed some sort of hero. I'm not really concerned with how she's viewed other than as an example to others who would follow in her footsteps.
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Reasonable discussion on facebook about this and I am faced with this argument:
Seriously? I am trying not to be rude here people, let me be reasonable!
Seriously? I am trying not to be rude here people, let me be reasonable!
balladofwindfishes
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The right really don't want to attach to this issue. It's an incredibly awkward place to be in. She's a Democrat, so the GOP won't touch her, and the majority support gay marriage and think she is breaking the law, so I doubt it's a martyr nobody but the really stupid and short sighted televangelists might pick up.
"We're fucking designers!!!!!! Not doctors or even have medical training? Are you fucking dense?"
Just, from the top of my head.
love the "small town not small mind" sign...shows even in rural places like there's still progressive people.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I love when people compare things to problems that don't exist.
I would say something about the fact her job binds her to society and that she is a vessel for performing actions demanded by those social forces. That's her only responsibility.
You Know Nothing
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The false equivalence is real.
Cloud Strife
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omg lmao
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Enough with the nuts in government. Are we not a nation of laws? Your average day citizen gets away with far less, this person was getting PAID to do nothing.
Religion is not an excuse. Are we to let terrorists go free because their religion said it was OK to kill Americans? No. Religion is not an excuse.
Enough with the nuts in government. Are we not a nation of laws? Your average day citizen gets away with far less, this person was getting PAID to do nothing.
Religion is not an excuse. Are we to let terrorists go free because their religion said it was OK to kill Americans? No. Religion is not an excuse.
This isn't true. Lindsey Gharme said she needs to do her job.
Edit: Kim Davis didn't win her job on Democrats vs Republican, she won on the fact that she was the daughter of the previous county clerk that held the position for over 30 years. She could have run as part of the hacky sack party and won the clerk job.
Say that a more apt analogy is that again you are a graphic designer. You specialize in making graphics which incorporate circles and the color blue. Board of directors comes in and says "Hey we are gonna need to work with squares and the color red also". You say you don't believe in those colors. You then get shit canned and someone else is hired because your beliefs have no place in that scenario.
Also ask them if they support shariah law being established.
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I basically said the analogy was crap (in a nice way), made a better, and said said of theirs that 'if that were to happen, they would just fire you and you could then sue them because the hell?
Also mentioned Saudi Arabia as a country with religious laws.
Most excellent.
Jason Alexander
bronkonagurski
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Uh...I'd say 'reasonable' left the building with a quickness there. That is such a bizarre comparison.
OrlanisWorks
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Reaction to all the religious freedom cries:
adamsappel
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We'll see how long she keeps her brave vigil. I doubt we're looking at a new Mandela here.
I'd wager that Fiction's friend believes that there are towns that have been taken over by Muslims who already practice Sharia law.
Angelus Errare
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Let's not sully Rosa's good name by mentioning her with this scum.
She believes that she should be free to let her religious beliefs dictate how she does her job at a job that specifically disallows that. Did she actually think that laws would be changed specifically for her so that she can continue to be a bigot?
Lets see how long she can sit in a cell.
Lets see how long she can sit in a cell.
AngmarsKing701
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Yep, just reviewed this with my high school sophomore son tonight as part of a test he's taking tomorrow. The Supremacy Clause. The US Constitution is the highest law in the land. Like, duh. But, hey, let's have actual elected officials hold government office who don't know this.
Aren't they sworn in? Hold your hand in the air and swear to uphold the laws of the Constitution? Basically, by not upholding the US Constitution she was going against her vow, which she swore on a bible, to do so. Again, hypocrite.
A reasonable compromise would be for her to delegate to other people for that function. That way same sex couples are able to seek marriage licenses and she doesn't have to do something her bigotry prevents.
But she cannot serve as a roadblock.
AngmarsKing701
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I love Veronica's response, but I wonder how much restraint she had to apply to not add #LetKimRot
starchild excalibur
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Then quit! FFS
First off this is awesome and thanks.
Second off, I might regret asking this but what the hell are southern Republicans like in that case?
It's more like working at McDonald's, and then being told that it will sell the shamrock shake all year long.. Instead of just March
Fuck off, Staver. Kim Davis was put under arrest because Kim Davis the person was not letting Kim Davis the agent of the state perform her duties of issuing marriage licenses on behalf of the state of kentucky.
Ask them what they think of this.
These people that say these things don't care about religious freedom as a principle, only how it applies to their religion's religious freedom. This is because they know in their hearts the other religions are wrong. Therefore there's just no reasoning or pointing out the hypocrisy. The design is impressive, designed so that the way some people practice their religion allows them to be quite shitty human beings without question or self reflection and it's justified in their minds.
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