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[blacktout]

i don't understand why Nintendo settled with a multiplayer soul game instead of a regular sp entry ?

Seems like Nintendo is trying to play up the Switch 2's online multiplayer functionality, and, judging by Nightreign, From want to experiment with multiplayer games. Probably a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Anyway, I watched the trailer again and realized that a lot of characters that I assumed were NPCs or enemies are probably actually playable, and that has me even more excited for this, because it looks like the gameplay is going to vary dramatically based on what character you choose and some of these characters look absolutely nuts.

The environments look pretty large, so I don't think this is just some hero shooter arena shit. Who knows how it will actually play.

 

[Danjin44]

Seems like Nintendo is trying to play up the Switch 2's online multiplayer functionality, and, judging by Nightreign, From want to experiment with multiplayer games. Probably a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Anyway, I watched the trailer again and realized that a lot of characters that I assumed were NPCs or enemies are probably actually playable, and that has me even more excited for this, because it looks like the gameplay is going to vary dramatically based on what character you choose and some of these characters look absolutely nuts.

The environments are look pretty large, so I don't think this is just some hero shooter arena shit. Who knows how it will actually play.

I'm hoping it's playable in solo like past FROM games, if that's the case then I'm in day one.

 

[touchfuzzy]

Saying "oh yeah it's Nightreign" is premium cope.

It's directed by Miyazaki. It's the From Software 'A' team. I think you need to at least see and hear more about the game actually plays before dismissing it just based on that information alone.

 

[DelireMan7]

i don't understand why Nintendo settled with a multiplayer soul game instead of a regular sp entry ?

Multiplayer probably means you have the option to play with others... Like all the Soulsborne game since Demon's Souls. They are all multiplayer games in that regard.

 

[Thief1987]

The rest of you ass hats can go back to playing cod and spider man ffs.

This quickly become a better alternative. Well, it already is.

 

[awwr999999]

This will get a PC port before Bloodborne.

There's a decent chance that people will be playing it free of charge on PCs 2-3 weeks before paying Switch customers get to play it.
Nintendo's been flooding Windows with free easy-to-emulate games for decades.

 

[RickMasters]

Incredibly hype trailer but I never play these games for PvP so I can probably skip it unless there's a dedicated solo mode.



It's only Ridge Racer 1 for the moment. No brainer buy for me though. Hopefully at some point we'll get an official home port of Rave Racer.

Oh god race racer and ace driver are long overdue ports.

 

[Hyet]

If only this was singleplayer, the Gameplay angle has me completely uninterested. Such a dissapointment, It otherwise looks great.

 

[DelireMan7]

Multiplayer probably means you have the option to play with others... Like all the Soulsborne game since Demon's Souls. They are all multiplayer games in that regard.

My bad just saw the info about it being PvPvE.
Well that makes it less attractive for me for sure. Let's see the details

 

[L*][*N*K]

I was so excited for this, then I foundout it is a multiplayer game. What a sad day.

 

[GigaBowser]

wwwaaay better then nightreign multiplayer

thirs will be like tarkov bookmarked

I am in love

 

[HYDE]

Why couldn't it just be a regular game. Mutiplayer zoomer trash for fortnite players.

Nightreign now this…fucking Methylphenidate ADHD Zoomers. Stick to your stupid ass iPhone games.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

"Multiplayer PvPvE"

Almost don't believe this is directed by Myazaki for him to think of finally making a successor to BB but then making some weird co-op spin iff instead.

Every beloved developer that gets too big has their moment where their inevitable decline starts where they start to lose touch with their own audience and if this isn't that then I don't know what is. Yeah, this is disappointing.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Watch the trailer again. The train passing by the camera may be the worst scene. You can count the polygons. It has better aliasing than BB but the textures are a big step back from 2015 Bloodborne. By the time it comes out it will have been 11+ years.

I didn't see an single game today that looked high in Fidelity either

 

[DelireMan7]

"Multiplayer PvPvE"

Almost don't believe this is directed by Myazaki for him to think of finally making a successor to BB but then making some weird co-op spin iff instead.

Every beloved developer that gets too big has their moment where their inevitable decline starts where they start to lose touch with their own audience and if this isn't that then I don't know what is. Yeah, this is disappointing.

I feel you. I wait for details before judging and I guess they could still work on a proper singleplayer maingame in parallel.

But I am not enthusiastic with the direction FromSoft is going since Elden Ring. Wait and see, the future will tell, but I start to think my time with FromSoft could be over in the coming years if they continue like this.

 

[Randall365]

It's Bloodborne 2 in all but name and all From Soft games are pve and pvp.

 

[DinoD]

Miyazaki will cut his head off if this game ever gets ported to PS5/Xbox Series .

 

[DelireMan7]

It's Bloodborne 2 in all but name and all From Soft games are pve and pvp.

From their website
"is a PvPvE-based multiplayer action game in which up to 8 players battle each other and players battle their enemies. Players become the "Duskbloods," who have gained powers beyond those of humans through the power of special blood, and find themselves in an epic battle for the "First Blood."

And in the trailer, we see several fights between humans so it really looks like PvP will be central.

This looks pretty much like a only online "arena" game. I agree we need to see details to judge but so far it looks very different from SoulsBorne games.
SoulsBorne game were Singleplayer with extra optional multiplayer. DuskBlood sounds more like the multiplayer is mandatory.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

From their website
"is a PvPvE-based multiplayer action game in which up to 8 players battle each other and players battle their enemies. Players become the "Duskbloods," who have gained powers beyond those of humans through the power of special blood, and find themselves in an epic battle for the "First Blood."

And in the trailer, we see several fights between humans so it really looks like PvP will be central.

This looks pretty much like a only online "arena" game. I agree we need to see details to judge but so far it looks very different from SoulsBorne games.
SoulsBorne game were Singleplayer with extra optional multiplayer. DuskBlood sounds more like the multiplayer is mandatory.

I agree with you, but there isn't actually a single frame in that trailer that looks like PVP. Maybe the T-Rex chomping a guy, but only because we can't see what the enemy actually looks like beyond "humanoid".

 

[MagiusNecros]

I agree with you, but there isn't actually a single frame in that trailer that looks like PVP. Maybe the T-Rex chomping a guy, but only because we can't see what the enemy actually looks like beyond "humanoid".

T-Rex guy is the White Haired Vampire dude with Yellow Vest and the character they chomp on is the Asian Woman in Blue. So that was a PvP encounter. All playable characters are likely preset...just like Nightreign, Hunt Showdown, Risk of Rain etc.

Kinda hoping we can force a PvE mode if you aren't subbed to NSO and all the other players are just CPU and would function as wandering bosses that aren't tied to any location.

 

[Kotaro]

From their website
"is a PvPvE-based multiplayer action game in which up to 8 players battle each other and players battle their enemies. Players become the "Duskbloods," who have gained powers beyond those of humans through the power of special blood, and find themselves in an epic battle for the "First Blood."

And in the trailer, we see several fights between humans so it really looks like PvP will be central.

This looks pretty much like a only online "arena" game. I agree we need to see details to judge but so far it looks very different from SoulsBorne games.
SoulsBorne game were Singleplayer with extra optional multiplayer. DuskBlood sounds more like the multiplayer is mandatory.

It's not just empty arena

The game drops all players inside a city, and all of them have to hunt 'first blood' relic. And the city still have enemies and bosses

I agree with you, but there isn't actually a single frame in that trailer that looks like PVP. Maybe the T-Rex chomping a guy, but only because we can't see what the enemy actually looks like beyond "humanoid".

there's still PVE, even fighting against bosses

 

[seb85]

I was ready to buy switch 2 because of it , then I learned it's multiplayer only game so my hype for it tanked , saved me a 500$

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

T-Rex guy is the White Haired Vampire dude with Yellow Vest and the character they chomp on is the Asian Woman in Blue. So that was a PvP encounter. All playable characters are likely preset...just like Nightreign, Hunt Showdown, Risk of Rain etc.

Kinda hoping we can force a PvE mode if you aren't subbed to NSO and all the other players are just CPU and would function as wandering bosses that aren't tied to any location.

Ok, going frame by frame It does seem to be 2 (presumable) PCs fighting for that 4 second portion of the trailer. I would not claim that the trailer shows PVP as a central focus though.

But I do believe that it will be.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Ok, going frame by frame It does seem to be 2 (presumable) PCs fighting for that 4 second portion of the trailer. I would not claim that the trailer shows PVP as a central focus though.

But I do believe that it will be.

It'll primarily be a 3rd person Battle Royale. Very Hunt Showdown esque. We will know more tomorrow.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

It'll primarily be a 3rd person Battle Royale. Very Hunt Showdown esque. We will know more tomorrow.

No shit, we basically know what it is. I was just disagreeing with what I quoted "And in the trailer, we see several fights between humans so it really looks like PvP will be central."

We see effectively no PVP in the trailer, except for one blink-and-you-miss-it quick-cut.

 

[MagiusNecros]

No shit, we basically know what it is. I was just disagreeing with what I quoted "And in the trailer, we see several fights between humans so it really looks like PvP will be central."

We see effectively no PVP in the trailer, except for one blink-and-you-miss-it quick-cut.

Core focus is multiplayer action and PvPvE games have a heavy PvP component. Dunno what to tell ya.

 

[FewRope]

The real interesting shit about this game is how Sony has fumbled it so fucking bad with From when this was CLEARLY Bloodborne 2, we need a behind the scenes so bad man

 

[March Climber]

Miyazaki will cut his head off if this game ever gets ported to PS5/Xbox Series .

We will see…

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Core focus is multiplayer action and PvPvE games have a heavy PvP component. Dunno what to tell ya.

lmao. What you can tell me is where that PvP focus is shown in the trailer, since that's all I was disagreeing with.

 

[DelireMan7]

I agree with you, but there isn't actually a single frame in that trailer that looks like PVP. Maybe the T-Rex chomping a guy, but only because we can't see what the enemy actually looks like beyond "humanoid".

Fair. But all the characters shown looks like preset characters you have to pick of.
Really gives the vibe of a PvP centric game. But maybe iy will not focus on fight between players and PVP will focus on a different aspect.

It's not just empty arena

The game drops all players inside a city, and all of them have to hunt 'first blood' relic. And the city still have enemies and bosses

Yes I simplified but the trailer is most probably showing you the preset characters you can choose and the you'll be drop into the world. It will be either randomly generated or "handmade" but then with the time it might get repetitive depending on the number of maps.
Don't know how the story will have importance on a multiplayer centric game. Story and lore is my favorite aspect of Fromsoft game.
But the trailer seems to show some story and bosses so let's see.
But the official description clearly mentioned PvPvE focused. So....

Again we need more info to judge. But so far I am not enthusiastic. I'll be happy if they succeed to convince me with the upcoming infos and final game.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Fair. But all the characters shown looks like preset characters you have to pick of.

Agreed. Halfway through the trailer when it was just different PCs posing around the map I said to myself "Oh no, this is multiplayer, isn't it?"

 

[Bernardougf]

Any sonyponys buying a Nintendo for this game?

I would easily buy this nintendo poc hardware to play only this game and than probably sell later ... but not for MP garbage.

Edit: and 30fps (by DF) ? Fuck no.

 

[Bernardougf]

Multiplayer probably means you have the option to play with others... Like all the Soulsborne game since Demon's Souls. They are all multiplayer games in that regard.

Than there was no need to say " a multiplayer game" in the title.. since everybody interested in this game knows what souls games "are about" ... this is coping

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[Bernardougf]

The real interesting shit about this game is how Sony has fumbled it so fucking bad with From when this was CLEARLY Bloodborne 2, we need a behind the scenes so bad man

Wont disagree with sony fumbling a lot of things this gen ..... but you always envisioned bloodborne 2 as some type of arena battleroyale/extraction /whatever this is, multiplayer game ? ... I surely didnt ...

 

[DinoD]

We will see…

My comment was a joke throwback to Shinji Mikami's 2004 comment when asked if Resident Evil 4 will ever go to PS2.

 

[Sentenza]

I literally don't know how to feel about the whole announcement.

- I really don't care about the Switch 2 or any Nintendo hardware...
- ...but it's FROM SOFTWARE, so of course I'm at least somewhat interested.
- FROM being bought into exclusivity now that they achieved mainstream recognition as a multiplatform developer is disappointing, in general. And it would be disappointing regardless of which specific console brand scores the hit.
- Not a big fan of the fact it's supposed to be a multiplayer-focused game, either. The same reason I'm barely paying any attention to Nightreign, frankly.
- It runs on a motherfucking Switch 2 and it's expected in 2026, the year after the console releases. By the time it's out, there are good chances it will be already emulated on PC, as most Nintendo games end up being...
- ...But if it's multiplayer-focused, emulation may be a problem. Ranging from being spotty/unreliable, to straight up not being playable in any way. That basically makes the game being multiplayer a double-downer.
- the other bad news is that if FromSoft has been busy with BOTH this and Nightreign, there may NOT be a "next big thing" already in advanced production from them. That would be a fucking bummer.

 

[Thief1987]

Wont disagree with sony fumbling a lot of things this gen ..... but you always envisioned bloodborne 2 as some type of arena battleroyale/extraction /whatever this is, multiplayer game ? ... I surely didnt ...

It seems that for the game to be a bloodborne 2 you just need to copypaste 80% of original game's assets, what kind of game it will be doesn't matter

 

[Hudo]

It's just a PvPvE game.

 

[Scrawnton]

People writing it off as a multiplayer game are just coping because the next Miyazaki direct A-Team Fromsoft game is exclusive to a Nintendo console.

 

[DelireMan7]

Than there was no need to say " a multiplayer game" in the title.. since everybody interested in this game knows what souls games "are about" ... this is coping

Yes I corrected my mistake. I hadn't seen the info about it being PvPvE when I wrote this.

Now it's clear, it's multiplayer game. Before it was not so clear for me.

 

[Thief1987]

People writing it off as a multiplayer game are just coping because the next Miyazaki direct A-Team Fromsoft game is exclusive to a Nintendo console.

Personally I'm more excited about Kawasaki B-Team and Gigachaki C-Team efforts

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[Astray]

Fiirst off, NOA's official PR doesn't list it alongside first-party releases (Donkey Kong Bananza, Kirby Air Riders, etc.), but instead on the 'Exciting Games from Global Developers and Publishers' section, alongside the likes of EA Sports FC and Borderlands 4. While folks will notice Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment being there as well, it's worth mentioning that these musou entries are actually part of IP licensing deals with Koei Tecmo Games, the main publishers of these games (leaving Nintendo to pick up the Western localization, basically the opposite of Mario + Rabbids being mainly published by Ubisoft, but Nintendo handling its Japanese localization) and, unlike The Duskbloods, it actually mentions having 'support from Nintendo'; it's actually exactly how Koei Tecmo Games used to license its Project Zero IP to Nintendo back in the day.

Nintendo Switch 2 Launches June 5 at $449.99, Bringing New Forms of Game Communication to Life

All Together, Anytime, Anywhere. With new ways to play and new ways to connect players, the Nintendo Switch 2 system arrives June 5 for a suggested retail pr...

www.businesswire.com

Now, you mention the IP being owned by From Software, and yes, we know that because they're the only entity mentioned on the game's copyrght. Nintendo, on the other hand, usually puts itself within the copyright of a project that they have produced and published, independently of them owning the IP or not. This is from Bayonetta 3, for example, a game published by Nintendo from an IP that they do not own:

Bayonetta™ 3 for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Official Site

Bayonetta struts through multiple locations in an all-new, over-the-top climax action game. Sporting a wicked new ensemble and somehow familiar pigtails, the titular Umbra Witch must face a mysterious evil using her signature guns and time-slowing Witch …

www.nintendo.com

And yeah, Nintendo is known for moneyhatting a lot of games over the course of years, especially this generation; Octopath Traveller being a major example of that.
Given the current development climate, it wouldn't make sense for a publisher like From Software (yes, they are a publisher) to make a game exclusive to Nintendo Switch 2 without some sort of deals coming in first, and by the looks of it, this one doesn't look like a major one.
Expecting this on other platforms by 2027.

Always appreciate the insights you post. Even when we sometimes don't agree.

 

[CuNi]

People writing it off as a multiplayer game are just coping because the next Miyazaki direct A-Team Fromsoft game is exclusive to a Nintendo console.

I got a Switch 2 already pre-ordered.
I was super hyped for this game and planned on getting it day 1.
Now, with me knowing its a PvPvE game, I don't have as much interest in it anymore.

I'll follow the news about it, but if it's like Nightreign, it's a damn pass from me.
I have no interest in forced PvP and I prefer the Souls games to be Solo-Experiences.

 

[DelireMan7]

People writing it off as a multiplayer game are just coping because the next Miyazaki direct A-Team Fromsoft game is exclusive to a Nintendo console.

It's impossible to imagine FromSoft fans who love their singleplayer games are not liking Duskbloods because it's a multiplayer game focus on PvPvE and story, lore and world building might be secondary...

Why people are always making a thing about exclusive ?!

Duskbloods looks very different from what FromSoft fans (or part of the fan) were expecting so it's normal to see disappointment. Platform on which you can play it is irrelevant.

 

[LordOcidax]

All the hyperbole with so little info and such distrust from Miyazaki directing the game, holy shit I expect a lot of crow eating.

Anyway,

This scene to calm you down

all from games pve pvp

escape from tarkov styles they gonna bee mad ahaha

I already said it, Fromsoft is about to become the worst company and the most hated one for a lot of people and the fact that a Nintendo console is getting a Bloodborne espiritual successor from Miyazaki + exclusive is pure cinema .

 

[Bernardougf]

It seems that for the game to be a bloodborne 2 you just need to copypaste 80% of original game's assets, what kind of game it will be doesn't matter

Well as long as you can call it a "win" ... btw if DF is right and this game is 30 fps ... yeah... automatic nop for me .. even if it was bloodborne 2, just cant stand 30 fps gaming anymore, even more with dated graphics, maybe a few years later on emulators if I ever build a pc for it.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

It's impossible to imagine FromSoft fans who love their singleplayer games are not liking Duskbloods because it's a multiplayer game focus on PvPvE and story, lore and world building might be secondary...

Why people are always making a thing about exclusive ?!

Duskbloods looks very different from what FromSoft fans (or part of the fan) were expecting so it's normal to see disappointment. Platform on which you can play it is irrelevant.

If Sony showed it during SoP it would've been eaten alive. And rightfully so.

 

[Bernardougf]

I literally don't know how to feel about the whole announcement.

- I really don't care about the Switch 2 or any Nintendo hardware...
- ...but it's FROM SOFTWARE, so of course I'm at least somewhat interested.
- FROM being bought into exclusivity now that they achieved mainstream recognition as a multiplatform developer is disappointing, in general. And it would be disappointing regardless of which specific console brand scores the hit.
- Not a big fan of the fact it's supposed to be a multiplayer-focused game, either. The same reason I'm barely paying any attention to Nightreign, frankly.
- It runs on a motherfucking Switch 2 and it's expected in 2026, the year after the console releases. By the time it's out, there are good chances it will be already emulated on PC, as most Nintendo games end up being...
- ...But if it's multiplayer-focused, emulation may be a problem. Ranging from being spotty/unreliable, to straight up not being playable in any way. That basically makes the game being multiplayer a double-downer.
- the other bad news is that if FromSoft has been busy with BOTH this and Nightreign, there may NOT be a "next big thing" already in advanced production from them. That would be a fucking bummer.

I really dont think their A-team is handling this games .... both of them feels like cash grabs side MP experimental projects