FromSoftware's Next Game Could be Its Most Ambitious Yet | Rumor Wave (George R.R. Martin?)
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Not everyone is enthralled with GOT. I enjoyed it but it isn't the most amazing thing ever, GRRM seems like a mediocre fantasy writer there must be millions like him.
I've enjoyed From's stories until now without the need for an outside writer. Saying "he's from TV!" doesn't make me excited as TV is full of highly lauded mediocrity and TV people seem to get a lot of underserved work imo.
Kinda sick of prestige tv tbh. Hence why I play odd, obtuse, Japanese action games instead ;-)
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eot
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At this point he's one of the most successful fantasy writers ever, up there with Tolkien and Rowling, but sure, "mediocre".
For what it's worth, I don't think his actual prose is that good (neither is Rowling's), but few people ever create something that captures the imagination of so many people, so give credit where credit's due.
tassletine
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Capturing people's imaginations isn't really a mark of quality though is it? ie: Gangam Style?
It's usually a fluke that the public then run with.
In GOT case all I can remember people talking about was the gore and nudity at the beginning, no one mentioned the story at all unless it was to take the piss out of how long everything took. It wasn't well written, but it had a hook to draw people in.
GOT is a soap opera, so it's designed to be addictive. It's mainly that the formula works and has for decades.
That formula is usually one great episode followed by two uneventful ones with a cliffhanger at the end of episiode 3 to make you watch 4 -- where it gets good again (then you repeat).
In that respect Martin is a perfect fit with From, who aren't great coders but make extremely addictive games.
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GRRM makes me weary. His world is actually kind of boring when you take all the sex, gore and shock deaths out. He is a very average writer that found a way to titillate his way to relevancy and millions and millions of dollars. I can respect his hustle though.
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Raven117
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Unless From goes an entirely different route from it's typical offerings, I can see much value Martin brings to the table.
Now, if they try something new and want to really create a real time political world. (Ie stuff told not through lore but through cutscenes and other devices....maybe). Kinda would be curious what a kings field would look like.
But yeah, I don't know. From seems to be at its best when it's just doing its thing....
Now, if they try something new and want to really create a real time political world. (Ie stuff told not through lore but through cutscenes and other devices....maybe). Kinda would be curious what a kings field would look like.
But yeah, I don't know. From seems to be at its best when it's just doing its thing....
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On one hand this sounds super fake.
On the other hand GRRM is taking every possible excuse to not finish those fucking books, so I can totally see this happening.
On the other hand GRRM is taking every possible excuse to not finish those fucking books, so I can totally see this happening.
klosos
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WccfTech are reporting the George R Martin - From software game is called Great Rune https://wccftech.com/from-software-george-r-r-martin/
With Norse Mythology aspects.
I would do a Thread but i am at work
With Norse Mythology aspects.
I would do a Thread but i am at work
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cireza
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Microsoft E3 looks like the best place ton introduce a new Game of Thrones game this year. You can be sure that it will gather a lot of attention.
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JareBear: Remastered
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FROM game using GRRM influence/inspiration?
Sign me THE FUCK up
Sign me THE FUCK up
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If true, I like the sound of the three class system. More focused than DS, but not as singular as Sekiro.
zenspider
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I don't disagree with you here, though I do love the ASOIAF books.
I think what makes GRRM so special is his style. I can only put it as an SAT style analogy: Stephen King is to the television generation as George R.R. Martin is to the YouTube generation.
His style of narrative setup and payoff just works for the way our brains are being wired. He is a master of writing for 'spoiler culture'.
Like I said, I could see something interesting coming from a collaboration with a team like From, who has their own unique style that borrows more from the literary than the cinematic, though I think From's storytelling 'as-is' is as good as it gets in gaming.
Starfield
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They unveiled Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice on MS's stage too. Gameplay I mean, not the title.
Hendrick's
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Where else would they show it?
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On cos he made a lot of money? As if money is an indication of quality? Guess that makes the Tranformers films classic and unimpeachable as well. Guess Ariana Grande is actually better than the Beatles too
LOTR is classic because it stands the test of time, was rediscovered over and over by multiple generations. GOT is flavor of the month. Let's see who still cares about it in 20 years
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Kadayi
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Pretty interesting stuff, though if it is the case, then that begs the question what the Xbox reveal is, as that definitely seemed more Thrones related. Great Rune could be something else entirely different
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Geki-D
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George R.R. Martin: "I've consulted on a video game out of Japan"
The rumored From Software collaboration project?
A Song of Fire and Ice writer George R.R. Martin has consulted on a video game developed in Japan, the novelist said in a blog post.
Back in March, YouTube channel Spawn Wave published a video discussing a rumor regarding the next project from Dark Souls and Bloodborne developer From Software, which stated it is an open-world title on which George R.R. Martin is one of the lead writers, with various kingdoms to visit and abilities to obtain from killing the leaders of those kingdoms.
A person familiar with ongoings at From Software has told Gematsu that the project—said to be known internally as "GR" (Gematsu has been asked to only share the acronym) and in development for the past three years—is an open-world title (with horse riding) and collaboration between Hidetaka Miyazaki and George R.R. Martin published by Bandai Namco, which will be officially announced at Microsoft's E3 2019 press conference. While we have not been able to verify this information through additional sources, we have decided to share what we have heard in light of R.R. Martin's blog post.
Source: Gematsu
Danjin44
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I honestly getting sick of them, what I like FROM games is they have proper level design instead if just doing open world like 90% western developers going for these days.
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Alan Silvestro
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!
Danjin44
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Also writing for books and writing for video games is different unless you want a game that story gets in the way of the gameplay itself. This mostly my personal opinion but what like both Fumito Ueda, Miyazaki and Yoko Taro is that use video game itself as medium to tell their stories.
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WindomURL
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From has a relatively fast dev cycle. If it's been cooking for three years, I can see it coming out in pretty short order, though it being an open world game might necessarily lengthen development. And everyone's well aware of GRRM's predilection for naps.
Would be gutted if it was an xbox exclusive, but I doubt that.
Yep, it's an exciting prospect, but tbo I just want Bloodborne 2 so hard.
Would be gutted if it was an xbox exclusive, but I doubt that.
Yep, it's an exciting prospect, but tbo I just want Bloodborne 2 so hard.
eot
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Are you basing the quality of the writing in the books (that GRRM wrote) on the show?
Bryank75
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There is always PSX
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Imagine thinking Game of Thrones is a "flavor of the month" when its been a fantasy novel phenomenon since the 2000's. Say what you want to say, but the worst people are the ones that don't give credit when credit is due. I hate it when people who don't like something have this itch up their ass to criticize it and make it seem like it's objectively mediocre. No it's not, get over it and move on. It's not your cup of tea, that's all there is to it.
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Lionel Richie
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From games are probably too big to skip E3 for a lesser event, but not Rockstar big that they can show whenever they want. If it's ready, they pretty much have to show it there.
VertigoOA
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I enjoy GoT and think From's games are godtier.
Yes, they do build their own absolutely incredible universe and I still would much rather have a proper Bloodborne sequel.
Sekiro did very well. A partnership and promotion of this magnitude would catapult from.
I remember when they would make obscure niche games in the GameCube and Xbox era that all scored in the 7s bit people loved them anyway. Now look.... good for them
Now your girlfriends will be interested in your souls games. Lol
Yes, they do build their own absolutely incredible universe and I still would much rather have a proper Bloodborne sequel.
Sekiro did very well. A partnership and promotion of this magnitude would catapult from.
I remember when they would make obscure niche games in the GameCube and Xbox era that all scored in the 7s bit people loved them anyway. Now look.... good for them
Now your girlfriends will be interested in your souls games. Lol
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Jon Neu
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It's funny how hating on GoT has become something cool up to this extremely ridiculous levels.
And also funny how it's haters have very little grasp not only even about the books-which is more understandable given that you have to actually read them to form a well informed opinion-, but the TV series even.
Danjin44
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But I still enjoyed fullmetal alchemist (2003).
VertigoOA
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Is that the original anime? I did too. It also had the far superior soundtrack over Brotherhood.
That's sorta what I try to tell got fans. It's not a Star Wars situation ... sigh
kevin_trinh
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Bloodborne story > 8 GOT seasons. We don't need any writer other than M god
Danjin44
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The ordinal anime also did the first part that was following the manga better than Brotherhood, but once brotherhood start follow the manga story, it became much better than the original anime.
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Werewolf Jones
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What the fuck has this topic turned into?
More distractions from GRRM writing the books. At least FromSoft will finish the game.
More distractions from GRRM writing the books. At least FromSoft will finish the game.
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I also enjoy both. I'm not ready to read it over again though lol. I'd rather re-watch The original and then move on to Brotherhood
tassletine
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I believe they're using someone else's engine. Rumour is it's RAGE.
GOT IS a soap opera opera in it's structure. So is The Sopranos. It doesn't mean they are bad. It's just the way they work.
George RR Martin based most of the plot on history, so it's solid. But the writing in the show character wise, is basic, so as to appeal to a mass audience.
That you find those comments "extremely ridiculous" only speaks for your love of the show.
I could care less about the show, but I certainly don't hate it.
Jon Neu
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Technically, 99% o TV shows are soap operas. Buy you obviously brought that up in a negative manner alongside the rest of your negative comments, because otherwhise doesn't make sense to bring that up when almost all shows are episodic with a continuous open narrative for various characters in nature.
In which way are the characters more basic than the Sopranos?
Yeah, you should visit the Game Of Thrones thread more often. You would actually learn a thing or two.
tassletine
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And criticising someone's personality is your answer to that?
Neither you nor anyone else knows how the show will be viewed in a few years. The 20 million or so that watched the finale doesn't even compare to the 100 million that watched M.A.S.H. when it ended -- And that series is mostly remembered for being great at the beginning but crawling up it's own arse by the end.
The Cosby Show was huge once. So was Dallas.
An so was Family Ties! -- and barely anyone remembers that aside from it being the show that Michael J fox started on!
Saying something isn't your cup of tea is just a catch all excuse.
You can enjoy something and still know it's not great -- I eat at Mcdonald's, but I would never pretend it was some sort of fine dining.
Jon Neu
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Yet some people on your side love to claim it would be forgoten.
You think only 20 millions watched the show finale? It's the most pirated show ever. For every HBO account (that multiple people can watch) there are countless pirated downloads.
You have to accept at least this: is the most succesful and impactful show of the modern times. No other modern show has become part of the pop culture at the level GoT has.
lol
For not hating the show you sure always pick the most condescending things to say about it.
tassletine
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I'm really not interested in this conversation because you've wrongly assumed that I hate the show.
Your assertion that 99% of tv shows are soap operas isn't based on facts, so I'm not really prepared to enter into that discussion either as you just seem to making things up for a fight.
I will say this though, the majority of shows are Dramas, which include the subcategory of soaps. Drama's tops out at about 40% of the total viewing numbers. Soaps are a percentage of that "technically".
Now you go back to school and learn what 'technically' means rather than asking me to educate myself on GOT threads. Jesus....
tassletine
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20 Million in America. Still doesn't compare to 100 million, downloaded or not. We might as well factor in Dvd sales too.
I love that you think I'm on a side. I'm too old for a fight though. You win!!!
Jon Neu
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When you are so dismissive of the show in a thread that isn't about the show, while also being so clearly ignorant about the actual show and books, it's hard to not interfere that you have a desire to be dismissive for the sake of being dismissive.
My assertion that 99% of TV series are episodic with a continuous open narrative for various characters in nature isn't based on facts?
Well, I don't know which TV series you know, but pretty much the inmense majority of them fit those standards, which are the standards by what a soap opera is defined. Maybe it's a 98%? 95%? 90%? I don't know.
I mean, I'm sorry you picked up a term you don't even know to be dismissive of the show and now you can't even backpedal about it.
I guess the show being a brutal success in Europe and South/Center America doesn't count. America is the whole world and there isn't piracy there, apparently.
I love that you think that you are not on a side, you are just a free thinker that just happens to go really out of his way to trash the show in the most condescending manner he can, while showing clear signs of ignorance of both the books and the show.
I get it, when something becomes this big, it's going to have a myriad of people anxious to tell the world how they hate that thing everybody talks about, but that don't want to actually go through the work of watching the show or read the books to have their right to trash it. I've done the same myself, it's a very human behaviour.
For every action there's a reaction, you are just part of the universe holding it's balance. I also happen to hate the Golden State Warriors. They are the McDonalds of that silly thing that you play in America, that soccer with hands sport that stops the game every 50 seconds for some reason.
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Ar¢tos
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I don't care much for GOT... probably because I have read a ton of dragon fiction since my teens and it doesn't have the same impact nowadays. But some of his other short stories have a lot of potential, maybe after he is done with the GOT world he can go back and expand the story of some of them.