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[samurai1226]

It looks more like Halo 4: Part 2 to me than anything else. I know that should be obvious since it's made by the same team but it doesn't make much sense to compare this game to Advanced Warfare or whatever when there's another game more similar to it.

I think it really fixes all problems of Halo 4, even though its adding new elements to classic Halo. To me the biggest faults of H4 are:

• Too much powerweapons in a match
• Personal Ordanances brings randomness and the above
• Map Ordanances ruins map control
• Personal Loadouts ruins everything (e.g. you get a vehicle and everyone just switch to plasma pistol + plasma nades)
• Really unbalanced armor abilities (Promethean Vision, Camo, etc)

Without Ordanances, Personal Loadouts and Armor Abilities the biggest Gamebreakers of Halo 4 are fixed.

After playing CE, H2 and H3 in mutiplayer I clearly see how slow movement and low mobility just dont work anymore - even though i loved the games back then. Halo 5 seems to me like classic Halo Gungame mixed with high mobility, which sounds great

 

[Skele7on]

I can't wait to play it, looks dope!

take out when and where weapons are gonna spawn though, that's annoying, should be about learning spawn times...

 

[WordsintheWater]

I'm surprised he didn't get a medal for just taking a certain number of steps, do we really need that many medals? Don't really like the sprinting because the base speed looks absolutely fine with me, the boosting and ground pound don't look like they get in the way of the game too much. Looking better than Halo 4, can't wait to get my hands on it and see how I really feel about it.

 

[Pop]

Mark my words it will be a pro tool.

I guess we'll see. Sprinting to slide just seems like a bad idea, even if you been hit just by one shot.

 

[Card Boy]

Anyway Halo fans are so resistant to change. Some of the comments.

To quote Biker19.

Go take a look at what happened with Halo 4's online multiplayer population after it was turned into COD (shown here). Then come back & tell us that.

 

[SparkTR]

Looks just as uninteresting to me as Halo 4.

 

[Killer]

I'm surprised he didn't get a medal for just taking a certain number of steps, do we really need that many medals? Don't really like the sprinting because the base speed looks absolutely fine with me, the boosting and ground pound don't look like they get in the way of the game too much. Looking better than Halo 4, can't wait to get my hands on it and see how I really feel about it.

LOL!

 

[Ermac]

What's the deal with the bro-animation after the round?

Why does the DMR look generic as hell? Looks like it came out of Rainbow Six 3

 

[Lucifon]

Looks great to me. The game has to change and evolve. Do some people just expect them to remake the exact same game again or something...? 'We have a product for people like you, it's called the Master Chief Collection.'

 

[Twin Tails]

What's the deal with the bro-animation after the round?

Why does the DMR look generic as hell? Looks like it came out of Rainbow Six Rouge Spear

all spartan iv are dudebros

 

[DOWN]

It doesn't even look like you fight anyone. If they see you first, you are dead.

 

[Butane123]

Looks like it could be fun. Hopefully they get rid of all the chatter and beeps. Those were just annoying.

I wish the spawn notification go as well. They just dumb down the game and take away one of the aspects I liked about earlier Halo games.

 

[Bornstellar]

It doesn't even look like you fight anyone. If they see you first, you are dead.

That's what it looks like when noob players meet experienced players.

 

[Detective]

People are dying way to fast.

I dont like that at all. it dos not feel Halo to me. I doesn't matter if it looks like Halo.

Look at resident evil after 3. The have the name, The characters, The menu, But its far from what RE is. Thats why I have boycott the game.

And if 343i keeps doing what ''They'' think is ''right'' for the serie, Like making ''new zoom* and showing MC face, faster kill time, Than its over for me.

Gaming is Halo, And Halo is( was ) gaming to me. If they ruins this like they did with H4, Then I will fucking boycott it.

I remember what the said about ordnance drops. NOT kill-streak and bla bla bla.

As a result, H4 population died and disappeared faster than a monkey fart.

I don't have problems with sprint, But why do you keep following what other shooters does? You don't have to CAPTURE other crowd. Halo have already a big loyal fanbase.

Only cosmetic zoom and not ADS I hear, Then why are you doing it? Halo fans never ever complained about these things, The only reason why you are doing it is because you want the game to be bought by COD and other shooters newbies fans. To appear easy to casuals.

The people who wants to play COD and whatnot will pay to play their COD or others Fast Paced Shooters.

keep doing what you doing, Chase that wet dream. I could already see where the game is heading after the disaster Reach and H4 was.

If am gonna judge from that video than am not gonna buy it. This is the first time ever am saying that about a Halo game.

Thank god the BETA is included on the MCC and free. Am gonna give it a try, But from what I see, This is not a game for me IMO.

Sorry GAFS for the long post.

 

[JonCha]

Looks good. In an ideal world the Scope system wouldn't exist. My two concerns at this point are whether loadouts and/or ordnance exist in other game modes, and whether the new abilities mean it's easy to cheat death when you should have been killed. Past armour abilities like Armour Lock and Hardlight Shield meant when you were one-shot you could activate them, and a teammate could come in and rescue you.

 

[El_Chino]

It looks like an evolution of Halo to me.

I could do without the weapon drop timer though, also they need to increase TTK.

Good thing this is a year out, plenty of time to fix things I hope.

 

[VeeP]

It doesn't even look like you fight anyone. If they see you first, you are dead.

You gotta out BR them breh, out strafe em.

 

[Sanpei]

This is so cool....

 

[computers putin']

It looks kind of like some weird mix of CoD AW, Destiny, and Halo lol. Looks fun though, and I like the chatter and power weapon call outs too, seems great for playing solo.

 

[Tak3n]

People are dying way to fast.

I dont like that at all. it dos not feel Halo to me. I doesn't matter if it looks like Halo.

Look at resident evil after 3. The have the name, The characters, The menu, But its far from what RE is. Thats why I have boycott the game.

And if 343i keeps doing what ''They'' think is ''right'' for the serie, Like making ''new zoom* and showing MC face, faster kill time, Than its over for me.

Gaming is Halo, And Halo is( was ) gaming to me. If they ruins this like they did with H4, Then I will fucking boycott it.

I remember what the said about ordnance drops. NOT kill-streak and bla bla bla.

As a result, H4 population died and disappeared faster than a monkey fart.

I don't have problems with sprint, But why do you keep following what other shooters does? You don't have to CAPTURE other crowd. Halo have already a big loyal fanbase.

Only cosmetic zoom and not ADS I hear, Then why are you doing it? Halo fans never ever complained about these things, The only reason why you are doing it is because you want the game to be bought by COD and other shooters newbies fans. To appear easy to casuals.

The people who wants to play COD and whatnot will pay to play their COD or others Fast Paced Shooters.

keep doing what you doing, Chase that wet dream. I could already see where the game is heading after the disaster Reach and H4 was.

If am gonna judge from that video than am not gonna buy it. This is the first time ever am saying that about a Halo game.

Thank god the BETA is included on the MCC and free. Am gonna give it a try, But from what I see, This is not a game for me IMO.

Sorry GAFS for the long post.

I am not devaluing what you say, but every business will/should try to gain new customers, the line is pleasing the old while attracting the new...

if you keep it like the old halo they will struggle as it is a skill based MP and you don't want new players going in and getting dominated to the point where it is no fun... you have to try to strike a balance really....not easy to do

it is clearly a mix they are trying, attract COD fans but keep map control etc in so Halo fans still feel good

only time will tell if they succeed

 

[Tak3n]

I can't wait to play it, looks dope!

take out when and where weapons are gonna spawn though, that's annoying, should be about learning spawn times...

Noooooo, it is great, choke points my friend choke points....

 

[Surface of Me]

Looks great to me. The game has to change and evolve. Do some people just expect them to remake the exact same game again or something...? 'We have a product for people like you, it's called the Master Chief Collection.'

I agree, as a big fan of old Halo. I'm sure I will switch between MCC and H5 for MP, but I am excited for H5. It looks like a new iteration on the gameplay, not copying CoD like Reach and 4.

What's the deal with the bro-animation after the round?

Why does the DMR look generic as hell? Looks like it came out of Rainbow Six 3

Halo was always about bros bragging on each other, what is teabagging?

Also, I always thought the DMR was ugly as shit in past Halo games, looks tolerable too look at now.

 

[EGM1966]

Too fast for my tastes, like a Halo mod running on CoD engine, but I accept they do need to tweak and evolve the experience otherwise the franchise will stagnate.

Just unsure if they're heading in right direction for broader market or screwing the pooch.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

Looks pretty damn fun! Having the beta so early will hopefully let 343 implement a lot of the feedback if necessary.

 

[KOHIPEET]

Not a single vehicle was shown.

Maybe it's just me, but I always thought Halo was different because how the game handled vehicles.

I guess they're going to get even less emphasis this time. Sad

But I still have some hope though.

 

[Pena]

"Solid 3 or 4 games to figure it out"
I don't think I can handle the learning curve. Sounds steep.

 

[RespectThySole]

It's looks pretty good to me. I don't like the weapon timer though and they should up the TTK of the SMG.

 

[teokrazia]

Whatever, it looks like a 25 times better iteration of the Halo legacy than Destiny PvP, and a better MP FPS in general.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

It looks more like Halo 4: Part 2 to me than anything else. I know that should be obvious since it's made by the same team but it doesn't make much sense to compare this game to Advanced Warfare or whatever when there's another game more similar to it.

Did you even play Halo 4? Because that sure as shit looks nothing like that mess of a game.

 

[Twin Tails]

Not a single vehicle was shown.

Maybe it's just me, but I always thought Halo was different because how the game handled vehicles.

I guess they're going to get even less emphasis this time. Sad

But I still have some hope though.

they will show off that later, the beta is focusing on 4v4 arena not BTB huge maps.

 

[ArchedThunder]

"Kill times are too short"
Yall should play Halo CE

Game looks like a massive improvement over 4 and Reach, just give us a toggle for the visial of ADS and get rid of the hit beep.

they will show off that later, the beta is focusing on 4v4 arena not BTB huge maps.

With 7 maps I doubt all of them will be arena.

 

[Son of Sam]

Judge away

- Too damn fast.
-Shield regenerates real fast.
- Spartan chatter might be useful if you play alone and no one is using the mic.
- I don't like how the announcer saying when power weapons gonna drop. Everyone will be camping that spot trying to get it.
-ADS+Sprint

I don't know how i feel about this ...

-I welcome the speed. Playing MCC i feel like those games lack decent mobility.
-To compensate for how fast the TTK and movement are. No issues here.
-Yup, it is useful. Hopefully there is on/off option
-I don't see how this is a bad thing? It's an unfair advantage playing MP where some people have timers or whatever, it's annoying. For competitive play i'm sure they'll have the option to turn it off. For regular matchmaking.. i rather not worry about timing drops.
-Sprint is fine. ADS is still i dunno.. wait and see.

Overall i like what i'm seeing.. Halo needs to evolve to stay relevant.

 

[Treechopper]

Holy cow, that dude had infinite grenades. Where was the indicator on screen, because I totally missed it.

Really, though, this looks great. I'm with others in that the power weapon callouts should be dropped, but it looks like slightly faster Halo 3 with more movement options. I haven't played a competitive multiplayer game in quite some time and this looks like it will scratch that itch.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

That doesn't look like ADS as we know it from CoD games or Halo 4. Seems more like zoom but for some reason they've decided not to use the same zoom from past Halo games and gone in this direction.

Seems silly, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

Not a fan of sprint, even with the negative effect of shields not recharging. Halo works better at its Halo 2/3 pace, doesn't really need all this extra speed and mobility.

 

[samurai1226]

Holy cow, that dude had infinite grenades. Where was the indicator on screen, because I totally missed it.

Based on the shown footage there is no nade indicator anymore, which is awesome

 

[Bornstellar]

That doesn't look like ADS as we know it from CoD games or Halo 4. Seems more like zoom but for some reason they've decided not to use the same zoom from past Halo games and gone in this direction.

Seems silly, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

Not a fan of sprint, even with the negative effect of shields not recharging. Halo works better at its Halo 2/3 pace, doesn't really need all this extra speed and mobility.

I disagree.

 

[MThanded]

Does it being different matter much? There is four Halos-worth of multiplayer available on Xbox One already

If 343 ever gets it working.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Holy cow, that dude had infinite grenades. Where was the indicator on screen, because I totally missed it.

Really, though, this looks great. I'm with others in that the power weapon callouts should be dropped, but it looks like slightly faster Halo 3 with more movement options. I haven't played a competitive multiplayer game in quite some time and this looks like it will scratch that itch.

Top left.

 

[Son of Sam]

Not a fan of sprint, even with the negative effect of shields not recharging. Halo works better at its Halo 2/3 pace, doesn't really need all this extra speed and mobility.

Nah. Played a bunch of MCC games today. The formula has aged significantly. It's all about mobility now. I can't imagine playing another Halo game with the same movement again for very long. Not after recent games and their emphasis on movement.

It's good that Halo is moving in that direction.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I disagree.

Why?

I won't dismiss anyone for wanting a faster paced Halo, I don't like the idea but I'd be interested to hear why you feel Halo needs that extra speed and mobility.

Nah. Played a bunch of MCC games today. The formula has aged significantly. It's all about mobility now. I can't imagine playing another Halo game with the same movement again for very long. Not after recent games and their emphasis on movement.

It's good that Halo is moving in that direction.

Not sure I agree, but I've yet to play MCC so can't really comment on how aged (or not) the old Halo games are in MP.

 

[Velikost]

Can't wait for December

 

[JayEH]

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I don't have problems with sprint, But why do you keep following what other shooters does? You don't have to CAPTURE other crowd. Halo have already a big loyal fanbase.

Only cosmetic zoom and not ADS I hear, Then why are you doing it? Halo fans never ever complained about these things, The only reason why you are doing it is because you want the game to be bought by COD and other shooters newbies fans. To appear easy to casuals.

The people who wants to play COD and whatnot will pay to play their COD or others Fast Paced Shooters.

keep doing what you doing, Chase that wet dream. I could already see where the game is heading after the disaster Reach and H4 was.

On target with these points. ADS is even on LT by default now. Remember when people used to try to emulate Halo? How times have changed. Now Halo is trying to imitate other games. Sad to see.

Like I've said many times, I'm giving the beta a fair shot but as of right now, I'm not liking what I'm seeing.

 

[DALBEN]

Nice, cant wait. Dont know why ppl are complaining.

 

[JMizzlin]

Can't watch the video right now but what is the Spartan chatter mentioned in the OP?

 

[KnockOneOff]

Looks good to me

Hope it stays this way, after playing halo 1,2,3 last night I'm glad they started to speed it up in halo

And after playing titanfall and COD lately I love the faster type games

Looking good 343!

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I think it looks pretty good, but I'm neither a multiplayer gamer nor a devout Halo fan. It does look very fast-paced, but I think 343 is in a place where they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

[Bornstellar]

Why?

I won't dismiss anyone for wanting a faster paced Halo, I don't like the idea but I'd be interested to hear why you feel Halo needs that extra speed and mobility.



Not sure I agree, but I've yet to play MCC so can't really comment on how aged (or not) the old Halo games are in MP.

You can argue need, but I love the additional complexity / skill separation adding the boost mechanic will create.

 

[Son of Sam]

Not sure I agree, but I've yet to play MCC so can't really comment on how aged (or not) the old Halo games are in MP.

Trust me, it's getting old fast. So many scenarios where i'm thinking "fucking move dude!!!! why can't my guy move!"

Ever since ShadowRun (360) i'm all about mobility. Titanfall has awesome movement, the new COD seems like it's ok, even Destiny had decent mobility. Halo looks very quick and fluid now. Liking it.

 

[Shinjica]

This. As I've said many times, if people don't care for this evolved version of Halo, then just stick to MCC (when it's working) - why would they even want a new Halo game?

If there are going to be new Halo games then of course they need to change. The key is to keep the core gameplay intact - which this seems to have done. Can't wait, personally.

Well, the evolution in halo 4 left a really few people playing multiplayer instead of halo 3 who had a good multiplayer community even after 1 year.

Maybe the playerbase dont want big change in Halo.

 

[Cronox]

Each hit from seemingly any non-power weapon took out half the shield. On the guy playing and people he was shooting at. My feeling is there are enough faster shooters out there, Halo has a certain feel and deliberate pacing that gets undermined with faster TTK and movement.

But whatever, if I ever get an Xbox One I'm sure this'll be in my library.