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Fullmetal Alchemist - Brotherhood Official Discussion Thread
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Same. What I mean is that while most people consider Ed and Al to be the main characters of FMA, it's really Ed, Al, and Mustang (at least, in the manga.)Auron_Kale said:
btw, just about to watch episode 17. I'll provide impressions later on.
Haha, you think Ed vs. Greed was special in the manga/brotherhood? Wait till you see episode 14 for the best so far in brotherhood, and there are still many, many fights that are much more awesome left to come.Rhino said:
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Just watched episode 17. That was very, very well done. Even though scenes were shortened, it really didn't feel like all that much was left out, and the pacing felt much, much slower than previous episodes. I like what I'm seeing from Brotherhood over the last 3-4 episodes. Especially Mustang <3
I can't help but feel though that (This is my opinion as someone who already knows what's coming up: May not want to view if you haven't read the manga yet)
Some of the "mysterious" feelings evoked by the story are being lost by events being compressed to be shorter and to occur closer to each other in the show, though.
Regulus Tera
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Roy's a jerk.
That was pretty shitty of him regardless, he didn't give her the chance to explain herself or anything.
What a tard.
What a tard.
I really hope he learns later what really happened.
People are confused maybe because they didn't expect Roy to do what he end up doing?
edit: watching the ep again, seems fairly obvious Roy
didn't kill Ross
ThatObviousUser
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I hope Ed beats the piss out of him in a later episode.
I do dislike [manga spoilers]:
Yeah, I know, typical manga reader with complaints. I still love Brotherhood, but it's just a bit disappointing since I was expecting it to be really faithful to the manga.
that they're changing around stuff a bit too much, but hey, I guess it's to be expected due to the pace. The whole Ross thing just doesn't have as much an impact with all the foreshadowing, was that in the manga too? I remember it being like "holy shit" because it came out of nowhere and they didn't tell you anything. I suppose that sort of thing works better with the monthly format of the manga, but still. I guess some people are still fooled though...:lol But I heard Ross is coming back real soon...
firehawk12
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I don't even know what to spoiler anymore, since I'm just watching the show. I'll just say that as a form of deflection, Roy doing what he did the way he did it makes a lot of sense.
[manga spoilers]FSLink said:
Pretty much everything except Armstrong telling Ed "This is also an order from that man *cue visual of mustang*" was in the manga as I recall, of course the foreshadowing things were more spread out instead of occuring BAM BAM BAM back to back to back to back over the span of 5 minutes or so/
ThatObviousUser
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StoOgE said:
I thought the first 30 eps or so of the original pale in comparison to the later eps. That could just be me though.
firehawk12
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Cloudy said:
Well, the fact that they didn't actually show it happen - considering how violent all the previous battles were - makes me fairly confident that it is.
In fact, it's like a perfect setup for a flashback reveal. But then again, I think I've been watching too much anime. :lol
duckroll said:
I agree. Although I hated how they used Trisha Elric as Sloth. In fact, I thought the whole explanation of how Homonculus was made was pretty lame. I completely lost interest 2/3 into the series. At that point, there was no question which is the better told story. The way how things are coming together in FMA, it's really brilliant, I just hope it finishes strong.
As someone who didn't read the manga I find all of the changes for the better. I also don't recall alkahestry in the original anime.
Also (minor character spoilers):
Thats all I can remember of the top of my head besides the aforementioned Trisha being Sloth.
Also (minor character spoilers):
Basque Gran had a somewhat bigger role in the original show, in this one Scars kills him and thats the end of it.
Regulus Tera
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B.K. said:
He's still a jerk considering that he had no substantial evidence for it.
Unless it was a red herring. Oh my.
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Despite the re-working of some of the events and issues I had with the more technical aspects, I was content with this episode.
Also love the VA for Dr. Knox - totally perfect for him.
Maria was adorable, loved her grappling with her 'options' and Ling was great.
Winry's speech was well delivered and I was happy that the babysitter line was kept.
Roy, Roy, Roy...
Also love the VA for Dr. Knox - totally perfect for him.
Maria was adorable, loved her grappling with her 'options' and Ling was great.
Winry's speech was well delivered and I was happy that the babysitter line was kept.
Roy, Roy, Roy...
such an awesome plan re: Maria. the burning of 'the body' was awesome.
Zalasta said:
Well, obviously the manga story is more coherent and in depth, since it's the actual story planned out from the start by the author. I enjoyed the alternate take on it in the original anime even with the shortcomings. Great animation and music, along with some pretty interesting battles at the end. The movie was pretty much a total mess though, aside from the insanely awesome animation in the Gluttony/Wrath/Al battle.
About your minor character spoilers (don't worry, you can read this, as you already know everything there is to know):Plywood said:
In the manga we don't even see him fight scar. In fact, we see Gran during some flashback aciton sequences from the Ishbal war (I believe he also showed up in Ishval flashback scenees in the first anime, too), but that's it of him in the manga.... well, except for an omake made after his awesome action scene that shows a hilariously anticlimatic and uneventful death at the hands of Scar. I don't remember how he died, but I think he simply tripped into Scar's right hand or something :lol
I guess Arakawa decided to make a spectacle of his weapons specialty once she got to some flashbacks where she could use him and then when people began speculating "How could Scar have beaten him?" she did the one panel omake :lol
I guess Arakawa decided to make a spectacle of his weapons specialty once she got to some flashbacks where she could use him and then when people began speculating "How could Scar have beaten him?
" she did the one panel omake :lolGaimeGuy said:About your minor character spoilers (don't worry, you can read this, as you already know everything there is to know):In the manga we don't even see him fight scar. In fact, we see Gran during some flashback aciton sequences from the Ishbal war (I believe he also showed up in Ishval flashback scenees in the first anime, too), but that's it of him in the manga.... well, except for an omake made after his awesome action scene that shows a hilariously anticlimatic and uneventful death at the hands of Scar. I don't remember how he died, but I think he simply tripped into Scar's right hand or something :lol
I guess Arakawa decided to make a spectacle of his weapons specialty once she got to some flashbacks where she could use him and then when people began speculating "How could Scar have beaten him?
Gran was drunk tip-toeing back home from a party and Scar sneaked up on him from behind >_>
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duckroll said:
I agree completely. For what they had to work with, Bones did a fantastic job with creating a different take on FMA. The first series had a lot of great moments, interesting characters, great music, and some really well-done fights. The movie, while a complete mess as a standalone movie, did tie up the loose ends of the first series rather well
parallel world aside
That said, I do hold the manga storyline in much higher regard as there's more depth and cohesion to the plot. Plus, many characters that have/had minor roles in the first series get far more attention devoted to them.
For now, Brotherhood is at the same level of where the first series is for me, which I enjoyed a lot, despite a lot of minor quibbles over characters and their traits. As it stands, it's far from perfect, but Brotherhood has already marked itself as both similar to the manga and independent of it.
Funny thing is the original FMA anime series started off pretty weak too until the nina arc, so i didn't really get the backlash this series was getting at the start.BlueWord said:
I didn't care for them at the start of the manga either, but lin xao develops into a really awesome character.
may chang is a good comic-relief character, pretty worthless outside of that though.firehawk12
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Muahahaha, I called it. Oh Roy, you devil you.
Regulus Tera
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Never read the manga before, but it seems too obvious to me that
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Hohenheim is the Philosopher from the East/West
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Yeah prettty much this.Regulus Tera said:
To me it's still weird that dispite all they can do with alchemy, that they can't transmutate a new arm/leg for themselves.
Watched episodes 17 and 18 back to back.
17 had some pacing issues, too slow at some parts and comedy didn't fit well. 18 does improve a lot and tells more of the story.
I'm glad Diana didn't really die and in the back of my head i knew it would be out of character for Mustang to kill her. I have not read the manga but i hope we see more of Diana in the upcoming episodes. My memory is kinda fuzzy but didn't mustang kill Winery's parents in the first FMA? I found the story in about them being killed by a ishballen in this version kinda disturbing.
Regarding your comments:TheOddOne said:
Watched episodes 17 and 18 back to back.
17 had some pacing issues, too slow at some parts and comedy didn't fit well. 18 does improve a lot and tells more of the story.I'm glad Diana didn't really die and in the back of my head i knew it would be out of character for Mustang to kill her. I have not read the manga but i hope we see more of Diana in the upcoming episodes. My memory is kinda fuzzy but didn't mustang kill Winery's parents in the first FMA? I found the story in about them being killed by a ishballen in this version kinda disturbing.
#1: The name is Maria, not Diana. :lol
#2: As people have mentioned before, the first anime did it's own thing. Scar is the person who kills Winry's parents in the source material. Mustang killing them was completely fabricated in the first anime.
#2: As people have mentioned before, the first anime did it's own thing. Scar is the person who kills Winry's parents in the source material. Mustang killing them was completely fabricated in the first anime.
On that (^) note, I really enjoyed (spoilers for first anime)
though I havent read the manga, so Im interested to see if this plays out any better
the liberties taken with the Rockbells death in the first anime, it was such a great idea and could have been an great arc if further developed. but they didnt really run with it at all, and cut the scene in the movie where winry and mustang meet for the first time after finding out, basically leaving it to a few sentences of dialogue and short scenes. too bad, i guess
though I havent read the manga, so Im interested to see if this plays out any better
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