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[Oberstein]

Final Fantasy X originally wasn't going to be a Final Fantasy game at all, but a series called 'Seventeen.' The story revolved around a recent unknown disease that killed people on their seventeenth birthday. Yuna would have had the role of a doctor/nurse that went around giving the disease's cure to its inspected victims. It is eventually revealed that the 'cure' was in fact the source of the disease, and that it was established by the company that Yuna was working for to rule the world, by claiming that they were the only ones that could provide the cure in the first place. It is unknown what role Tidus and Auron would have had, if they were even thought out as characters in the first place. That being said, some of these concepts could have been made for Seventeen and not FFX

https://ffx3chat.createaforum.com/ffx-general/ffx-early-conceptsdesigns/

Early concept art.

 

[rofif]

Not really

 

[KimDongHwan]

To what other game? Sorry I am out of the loop

 

[Punished Miku]

It is a bit like Dr. Mario, yeah.

 

[Davevil]

To what other game? Sorry I am out of the loop

 

[DreamcastSkies]

We need that FFX remake. I don't understand why S-E (and many of their fans) haven't embraced the idea of remaking FF 6 through 10. DQ games have received so many remakes. Konami is remaking MGS and Silent Hill. Capcom has found huge success with RE remakes while also doing new entries. I know remaking the PS1 REs is an easier task than remaking the PS1 FFs but still…. I feel like S-E has a "fine, if we absolutely need to do it, we'll remake FFVII". They should be open minded to doing more than VII and maybe not drag out a remake of 8 or 9 or 10 over multiple entries. I think fans need to be a bit less harsh about these projects not being 1:1 remakes also.

 

[Zacfoldor]

They can still make it. I would play the shit out of that. It sounds like a parasite eve plot.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Not at all

 

[Dis]

We need that FFX remake. I don't understand why S-E (and many of their fans) haven't embraced the idea of remaking FF 6 through 10. DQ games have received so many remakes. Konami is remaking MGS and Silent Hill. Capcom has found huge success with RE remakes while also doing new entries. I know remaking the PS1 REs is an easier task than remaking the PS1 FFs but still…. I feel like S-E has a "fine, if we absolutely need to do it, we'll remake FFVII". They should be open minded to doing more than VII and maybe not drag out a remake of 8 or 9 or 10 over multiple entries. I think fans need to be a bit less harsh about these projects not being 1:1 remakes also.

Add Chrono Trigger and Xenogears to this too

 

[kiphalfton]

How does a canned plot for a game that came out 20 years ago sound eerily similar to a game that came out within the past year?

 

[calico]

Logan's Run also uses the 'death at age x' idea.

The plot outlined in the OP also has similarities with Deus Ex and, more recently, with the covid scamdemic.

 

[Connificent]

How does a canned plot for a game that came out 20 years ago sound eerily similar to a game that came out within the past year?

FF stans fuming that a western developed JRPG is goated

 

[IAmRei]

also on xenoblades 3, and and got executed well

 

[Zathalus]

Has some similarities to the plot of Miri in Star Trek as well.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Sounds eerily similar to another game, doesn't it?

. Nope, it doesn't

 

[Trogdor1123]

It's close to a show called Jeremiah that came out around then though

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Man, a virus being used to acquire political power, what a crazy concept.

 

[Synless]

Resident Evil?

 

[FoxMcChief]

Donkey Kong Bananza?

 

[Cert.in.Death]

For many of us that's what the game achieved IRL

 

[Lokaum D+]

Imagine not having adults in the game, not having Auron, it would be terrible.

 

[Loomy]

Before FFX came out, was a TV series called The Tribe. A show where everyone over 18 died and the kids formed factions. It's been in countless manga/anime shows as well. Not an original premise at all. Expedition 33 killed it with the concept though.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

For many of us that's what the game achieved IRL

The average age of FF players is 42…. but in our hearts and emotional maturity levels, we'll be 17 forever.

 

[Lillie]

They need to remake it like 7 already

 

[Fafalada]

Logan's Run also uses the 'death at age x' idea.

Logan's Run already had a remake though it's called 'The Island'.
Oh wait - we're not talking randomly about IPs that need a remake are we.

Seriously though - this isn't the most novel of sci-fi concepts (well over 50 years old, IIRC Logan's run wasn't the first either) and it's been used by many mediums and stories since.
Did people think Claire invented it or something?

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Sounds shit.

FF10 story while simple is goated.

 

[Wonko_C]

They're obviously saving it for Final Fantasy XVII...

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Please just give me a single game remake of FFX on PS6 on UE5/UE6 as my last ever game, whilst there's still a market for it.

The next generation have all been raised on Fortnite, Roblox and Minecraft and after next-generation its looking very bleak for narrative games and JRPGs.

I want the FFX Remake to be a last chopper out of saigon game to sign off on.

 

[Sevyne]

 

[Gaiff]

Lol, of course it'd be 17 because JRPGs cannot grow out of high school. It wasn't until FF XVI that we got a protagonist over the age of 30. Old man Noctis doesn't count.

 

[Loomy]

Lol, of course it'd be 17 because JRPGs cannot grow out of high school. It wasn't until FF XVI that we got a protagonist over the age of 30. Old man Noctis doesn't count.

We almost got that in FF12. Then they chickened out of having Basch be the main character and gave us Vaan lol

Edit: Went back and double checked. Matsuno denied the story.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Logan's Run already had a remake though it's called 'The Island'.
Oh wait - we're not talking randomly about IPs that need a remake are we.

Seriously though - this isn't the most novel of sci-fi concepts (well over 50 years old, IIRC Logan's run wasn't the first either) and it's been used by many mediums and stories since.
Did people think Claire invented it or something?

Literally nobody thinks Clair Obscur invented it. Just an interesting parallel between CO and one of its biggest influences.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Lol, of course it'd be 17 because JRPGs cannot grow out of high school. It wasn't until FF XVI that we got a protagonist over the age of 30. Old man Noctis doesn't count.

In some alternate universe, weebs are arguing about how it's ok for Seventeen to have sexualized child characters because they're in a world where they die before reaching adulthood.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Not at all. Less so when you learn the true story of that other game.

 

[jshackles]

This was also the plot of an early SG-1 episode, they probably watched it before coming up with the idea

 

[bender]

Sounds like the dreams I have regarding all of humanity.

 

[Zannegan]

In some alternate universe, weebs are arguing about how it's ok for Seventeen to have sexualized child characters because they're in a world where they die before reaching adulthood.

Yeah. I was just going to say, not sure how that's supposed to work out logistically. Weeb sexual ethics aside, how long has this death at 18 thing been going on, and who is even raising these babies?

I haven't played Expedition 33, but (aside from making a whole lot more sense) the countdown element adds a layer of existential dread to it that just having a set expiration date, even at 17, wouldn't do.

Really though, the two concepts aren't even that similar. The fact that X didn't actually follow that path notwithstanding, I would say most JRPGs have more stark similarities than that. *shrug*

 

[poodaddy]

We need that FFX remake. I don't understand why S-E (and many of their fans) haven't embraced the idea of remaking FF 6 through 10. DQ games have received so many remakes. Konami is remaking MGS and Silent Hill. Capcom has found huge success with RE remakes while also doing new entries. I know remaking the PS1 REs is an easier task than remaking the PS1 FFs but still…. I feel like S-E has a "fine, if we absolutely need to do it, we'll remake FFVII". They should be open minded to doing more than VII and maybe not drag out a remake of 8 or 9 or 10 over multiple entries. I think fans need to be a bit less harsh about these projects not being 1:1 remakes also.

Na.

VII remake is trash. Square's already doin everything in their power to destroy their legacy and you're wantin to throw em in the car pool lane.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Spoiling Expedition 33? Thanks.

 

[Zannegan]

Spoiling Expedition 33? Thanks.

I thought that was the core concept of E33, featured in every trailer from the announcement onward. It's not really a spoiler if it's part of the elevator pitch.

 

[Loomy]

Spoiling Expedition 33? Thanks.

The premise was already revealed when they first announced the game. It's also been 3 months, I think that's probably a sensible amount of time to not spoil something.

 

[Hudo]

Spoiling Expedition 33? Thanks.

Well, I guess the Steam page is full of spoilers, then.

 

[Wonko_C]

I thought that was the core concept of E33, featured in every trailer from the announcement onward. It's not really a spoiler if it's part of the elevator pitch.

I was fortunate enough to play E33 completely blind, and the whole Gommage thing at the beginning caught me off-guard and totally got me hooked on a game I was not really interested in. Honestly nothing afterwards hit me that hard, unfortunately.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Add Chrono Trigger and Xenogears to this too

ESPECIALLY Xenogears. It's literally unfinished; they cut so much content from the 2nd disc due to time constraints & running out of budget. So we've never got the full original artistic vision as intended.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Xenoblade Chronicles 3 also has the same theme

 

[Pimpbaa]

Then we wouldn't have had lulu, at least she didn't look like a teenager. Then again she carried around that moogle doll i think.

 

[bitbydeath]

Children of the corn?

 

[Auto_aim1]

I am glad they didn't go this way and it ended up becoming the greatest JRPG ever.

 

[Yoboman]

I knew the French were up to something

 

[Jacobson]

OP is reaching with this since there are no viruses