Prax
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Which part? >___>
Where am I cheating?
Just because I'm winning doesn't mean I'm cheating.
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Which part? >___>
Where am I cheating?
Just because I'm winning doesn't mean I'm cheating.
I'm straight as well and apparently so is Ookami. He apparently has crushes on Doggy Kruger and the likes and well I have crushes on vis kei artists/singers.
depends what you mean by mostly
and im just saying that in every situation where people post mostly sexually ambiguous art (from a human aesthetic) every time they tell me that my tastes are "not furry enough" like im supposed to fix it or gtfo
it does seem to be a mostly elitist community that seems to be composed largely of either bisexual or misanthropic tendencies
im gonna go cry in the corner because I dont belong anywhere brb
Uchip you're overreacting. Now seeing as I'm pretty much the most balanced fur here I'll go on to say we can have catgirls and I think it's fine if we all post the art we like but NOT Trollish stupid art like say something Kraftwerk would post.
Maybe it's mostly the physical aspect of it and how they look, or the idea of anthropomorphic species done right in certain art. I find them more interesting than boring humans.
I don't even understand the point of this thread if I'm not allowed to ask about furry sexual practices. There is a lot of sexualizing their "avatars" or whatever they call them, at least in artwork, so I'm assuming furries are having furry sex with each other a lot.
Prax
Member
I mean that on the Kinsey scale from 0-6, where 0 is totally hetero and 3 is evenly bi, and 6 is fully gay, I feel I am probably at.. 1.5?
It's okay, it's just your personal taste. You just like exotic looking humans more than you like human-like animals. Plenty of people like the stuff you're into, which is why I have to wade through all of it to find stuff I like. It's like any other kind of fan community. Elitism and "hardcore purists" everywhere. And despite my hating on the style you like, I know a technically good piece when I see it, and I can still appreciate good art even if it's not in a style I like.
Well, I like it because I think animals are super cool. Cool abilities. Cool looks. They are like superheroes!
I like how animals look and I grew up on cartoon animals so it seems normal enough.
People like anthromorphisizing everything anyway. Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Land Before Time, Lion King, Samurai Pizza Cats, Ninja Turtles, Thomas the tank engine, Brave Little Toaster, Toy Story.. ETC ETC! Make everything that isn't human a little more human and sentient and relatable and you gain a whole new perspective/twist you can run with.
I think a lot of people get into it for the novelty/intriguing twist and aesthetic/cool factor that animals have.
That said, inevitably the dimension of human sexuality gets added in, and anything can be fetishsized and rule 34'd, so you get all the seedy stuff happening too.
something like this
when it comes to art, yes.
thats complete bullshit
the chance of you finding something I like are slim to none
Acerac
Banned
I'd imagine it is rather unique for every individual. Miktar had an excellent writeup on the previous page that I think serves as a perfect reply to your question, so I'll requote it here.
I don't think one can haphazardly say which is more logical or illogical, since argument could take it either way - and in the end it's a personal thing anyway. I've seen people treat their dogs better than their family, which may seem illogical from an external perspective, but it has logical consistency for the person in question.
And in side-thought, aren't animals as alien to us as aliens would be? Or has familiarity just give us an excuse to easily disregard them as anything other than 'animals/pets/fluffycutethingsonYoutube'. Does our "dominion" over animals change their status in the human social gestalt, to the point where we actually carry a weird kind of guilt about what we're doing to other creatures?
Thinking about it, looking into the eyes of an alligator is every bit as alien as I would imagine looking into the eyes of a space-faring alien would be.
As I said before, the furry fandom (or should I rather say, applied anthropomorphics), is an idiosyncratic event that's entirely personal. I guess comparable to taste in music (why X over Y, instead of Z?), or more interestingly, one's taste in art. Art remains difficult to quantify, and thus people's personal attraction to certain types of art are even more ambiguous to define.
For instance, for me anthro art is why I'm peripherally interested in the fandom. I've always preferred to draw animals over people (examples: http://www.dropmocks.com/moqMv) though my style is far more simplistic and cartoony compared to much of the fandom's art output. I've just always had a soft spot for simple black and white line drawings, m'self. Then there's the obvious tricks of using animals as ciphers in art, representative of personalities and traits (kemono does this), for the sake of making the character part of a greater context. Or just to easily get out of mary-sue setups, who knows.
Bearing in mind I'm not talking about anything sexualized here - I've long since gotten over the fact that human beings are capable of sexualizing anything. Cars, are designed to trigger the same kind of attraction we have for other humans. Plenty of books are written daily about the psychology behind designing things to trick our lizard hindbrains into thinking "damn, that thing looks attractive" and thus we purchase.
When it comes to the sexualization of animals through anthro art, I'm assuming the attraction factor is also entirely individual-dependant. Perhaps someone gets turned on by six mammary glands, or perhaps it's the caricature-traits (domination factors, submission factors, etc). Then again, some people draw rabbits with huge tits, the tits bigger than the rabbit - which makes me think the rabbit part is entirely incidental, in that case.
There is much conjecture on the topic of why, less on the why not, and plenty of "lulz" inbetween. Personally I think the matter of sexualization in furry art, is really just a symptom of the much larger question of why we, as a species, are so prone to sexualizing things period, biological impulses to procreate aside.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah, Japanese furry stuff is part of their culture since they have kemono paintings dated before ancient Japan.
k how about some buff japanese anubis
Humans are boring. If you're gonna fantasize you might as well step it up the notch. Nothing is wrong with fantasy after all.
Nope, seems like a mock cover.
That's irrelevant though. What I said is true - people who do anthro ponies tend to be furries too, whereas pony fans who aren't furries don't like the notion, and there are furries who pretty much loath pony art, anthro or not. Think of venn diagrams!
k how about some buff japanese anubis
Humans are boring. If you're gonna fantasize you might as well step it up the notch. Nothing is wrong with fantasy after all.
Nope, seems like a mock cover.
That's irrelevant though. What I said is true - people who do anthro ponies tend to be furries too, whereas pony fans who aren't furries don't like the notion, and there are furries who pretty much loath pony art, anthro or not. Think of venn diagrams!
Prax
Member
That is how I feel a lot of the time. People jump to sexual connotations and bestiality conclusions too quickly (also happens in sexualizing every relationship between 2 or more people, doesn't matter what age, gender, or compatability issues!). Human nature to have sex on the brain though.
No it's not..thats complete bullshit
Or at least high quality art of exotic humans exist in greater quantities than high quality human-like animals! ( >_> Of the type I like. Plenty of human-like animal stuff exists that just plain does not appeal to me too).
Though here is a peace offering! Some old artwork of mine (2006ish?)! They are obviously female and less pilot-y counterparts of the Starfox team, but pay that no mind! You see their true form (anthro animaly forms) and their "humanomoprh"/Uchip-approved forms (stupid joke story summary: they made a machine to disguise themselves as humans, but it obviously doesn't work that great. Laura still has fox ears, Reen has NO ears--you just can't tell but she has ear holes instead, Spritz has bunny ears, and Waterlily also has no ears--she's also probably bald and is wearing a wig).
I still think Laura's supercool and Reen is adorable.
They are also the parents of most of those stupid "Generation NXT" guys I posted earlier in the thread--and by parents I mean they threw some DNA in a machine or kidnapped them from somewhere. Now are you guys glad I never got around to making an actual comic about them? >__>
I think you have the wrong impression
I liked that last catgirl because shes designed by tony taka who is notoriously good at drawing the female figure
generally they are drawn either underage or super generic and i couldnt care less
Prax
Member
More Mayhem
G]
Mayhem is pretty cool, but it's weird seeing a dragon-like tail on a shark.
Then again, a lot of anthro artwork exaggerate the tails to crazy proportions because apparently people have big tail fetishes just like any other body part fetish. :I
Anyone else find the "uniforms" in the second pic unnerving because it's almost the same skin colour the sharks have, making them look like crotchless leotards?
Amibguous Cad
Member
I'm not quite sure, tbqh.
I do know that the furry porn stuff serves markets that tend to be neglected by real-life porn stuff. Furry twink BDSM porn is significantly better than what the "real" porn companies are putting out.
For me, furry stuff isn't really part of my identity. I'm just an all-purpose pervert, and furry porn is just another genre, like hentai or something. Still no desire to fuck animals, though.
I think It's an easy way to fulfill a beastiality fetish without catching some funky animal disease.
This argument, which is one that gets thrown around often, could not be more unsubstantiated.
It's basically what people settle on when they want an easy way of dismissing or mocking furries.
If the furry fandom was truly a veil for bestiality, you wouldn't have all this anthro art and discussion, it would just be sexualized animal art.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wouldn't equate bestiality to furry, but not sure if that was a serious reply.
Nah it wasn't, but then Halcyons counter-argument wasn't exactly convincing either.
so children with collars is ok? Haly i am disappointed
Voila.
Did I mention I'm also into BDSM? Artwise anyway, I've never tried it out in real life.
Ahh there's the funneee. I was reading this. People who sound like this guy should be embarassed, but they won't be. http://thegeekling.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/why-the-furry-fandom-creeps-me-out/
I didn't fixate on animal boobs, watching WB cartoons or Space Jam, I don't think badly about those who do. I do wonder about people who feel like they have to noodle it through(like this guy), until they "understand". Especially when that understanding equates to some shit they finally came up with thanks to mental fatigue and an absolute lack of perspective.
Also, if I want to fixate on anthropomorphic animal art boobs, you can be sure that those boobs will be awesome.
How About No
Member
Why.
Why are shark girls so cool now.
What the fuck did you do thread!
Why are shark girls so cool now.
What the fuck did you do thread!
Acerac
Banned
some people will argue that mickey mouse is the most important
but Tezuka was the first to make them cute and not just silly looking
The Frankman
Banned
Acerac
Banned
Wasn't Tezuka directly influenced by Donald/Scrooge McDuck?
most animators/comics were influenced by disney in some way
Acerac
Banned
I'm talking directly influenced.
*Googles*
Ah, here we are:
I'll grant you that Disney has had quite a wide range of influence, but not every illustrator has sent Christmas cards to those who gave them inspiration.
of course disney never sent them a card when they straight ripped Leo the Lion into the Lion King
Acerac
Banned
I never said that Disney animators should send a card back, I'm just saying that when the father of anime sends you a yearly Christmas card there is some significance there.
Black dog guy wakes up in blonde dog guy's bed, realizes he just slept with blond dog guy while drunk and that his boyfriend, red dog guy (unpictured), is going to be furious if/when he finds out.
He cries into his hands as the regret overwhelms him.
::cue rain::
He cries into his hands as the regret overwhelms him.
::cue rain::
Acerac
Banned
I'd assume it's because the pics he'd post where the subjects are happy aren't appropriate for GAF.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It seems like Japan isn't too fond of otters.