Telephoto999
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I don't want a jackpot man.. I just want a job that I enjoy waking up to and have fun doing. I don't want the rest of my life to be as miserable as I've been the past 7 years. I just don't know what to do.
FYI, A misdemeanor in the state of Georgia is a life sentence. My story.
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I don't want a jackpot man.. I just want a job that I enjoy waking up to and have fun doing. I don't want the rest of my life to be as miserable as I've been the past 7 years. I just don't know what to do.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'm saying for the sake of some normalcy you could have bootstrapped it and had however many years under your belt at a job that, though may mot be your dream, could have given you even more credibility in the present day. Do these prospective employers ever ask about the resume gap?
Chinpoko_Master
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The use of the word "scarier"(in italics, no less) make this post almost comical. The fact that you aren't joking makes it all the more embarrassing.
Telephoto999
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I'm sure it's an issue, but I consider myself a very good interviewer and I've always had positive experiences during the interview process. Even lately on the phone interviews and a skype interview I had I feel like I made a very good impression. I feel like people like me, and want to hire me...until they find out my past. I have so much more to offer to a company than just my education and job history.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I dunno man, I think your past just gives them the easy out. I don't doubt you're capable, just that everything probably does add up. It might have been the record primarily a few years back due to it being recent, but as the years go by it's probably that hole that keeps getting bigger and then the history just breaks the camel's back.
Telephoto999
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As bad as it is, her way of thinking is the norm and not the exception. Not that it's right or wrong, but it's definitely discriminatory and biased.
It's OK. I think you're post is pretty ridiculous too. You don't seem to understand that employers are going to choose people that: (1) they want to work with; and (2) are less of a liability.
This is honest advice, OP. You can't just let them find out about your past. You need to put it out there immediately and explain the circumstances. Otherwise, it will seem as if you are hiding it and suggest you haven't grown from the experience. This thread is getting pretty long and I can't remember all of your posts. Have you tried doing that before? Explaining it during the interview?
Brolic Gaoler
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What was the nature of the battery? Chances are his is less about a misdemeanor keeping you from getting a job and more about what you actually did.
Telephoto999
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I'm not sure if you read the original post, but I have done that on multiple occasions. The response from the HR lady was directly after I told her that something would show up on the background check. And if you read further you'll see my email communication with a recruiter recently where he also disappeared of the face of the earth when I told him I'd have a misdemeanor (didn't even get to what it was) show up on the background check. I've tried hiding it, I've tried being forthcoming with it. It's impossible to predict how someone will react when you tell them. I've had some say "oh that shouldn't be an issue" and then you never hear from them again. I've had some straight up say they won't hire anyone with even an arrest on their record.
Telephoto999
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standard? Georgia has multiple classifications for battery, there's simple battery (spitting on someone is considered simple battery etc) , battery (physical contact whether striking, shoving, slapping, etc), and battery of a high and aggravated nature (felony, severe bodily harm) and mine was just battery.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
No, meaning what did you actually do.
So it was domestic battery? Yeah, that's probably why.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
No, meaning what did you actually do.
So it was domestic battery? Yeah, that's probably why.
Telephoto999
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I am aware of the second part but we can keep going in circles I guess.
Apparently 7 years is not enough time to be forgiven for such a thing.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
For a domestic? Damn right.
Felons are in the same boat.
Yeah domestic battery makes him ineligible to own/operate a firearm.
They won't let you kill someone in armed combat because you hit somebody. LOL. Fuck this country.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Look above. When you're convicted of a domestic battery you can't own or operate a firearm.
Something Wicked
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I think now here in Massachusetts, after 5 years, most misdemeanors can be "sealed" from background checks.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
FBI checks uncover everything.
Ah, I read the OP earlier this morning and didn't remember. Here's the thing OP: If you're immediately shut down, it means the company has a policy against hiring anyone with your type of conviction. There's nothing you can do there, except get the conviction expunged. For this reason, as others have suggested, it may be better to target smaller companies.
Also, your best bet is to disclose it during an in-person interview. Disclosing it over email, doesn't give them a chance to see your demeanor or read your tone, when you talk about it. People are going to want to see and hear that you've moved beyond what happened. They can't get that through email. Hiding it is absolutely the worst idea, because it's straight to the bin once its found.
Chinpoko_Master
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No, I completely understand that. It's just that your use of the word "scary" is a little overblown. It's not your fault if working with someone with a violent conviction makes you uncomfortable to some extent, but "scary"? lol
Telephoto999
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So you think I should have it haunt me the rest of my life because it was "domestic" in nature? Despite the fact it's a misdemeanor and not a felony, and it was a first time offense and I completed my state issued sentence 100%, and have no repeated nor had any issues since I should continue to be punished and completely held down by the private sector?
It's so stupid though, there are plenty of positions in the military that don't involve ever touching a weapon.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
IMO the nature of the offense means more than the type of charge you received. Your story is the same sob story I hearat work every day (federal prison) you made the choice now you live with the consequences. You beat your girlfriend enough for the authorities to arrest and charge you and send you to anger management. If I were an employer I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole. You're too much of a liability. That's just how it works.
You're gonna have to find a way to make it work and live with the consequences.
Every one of them involves touching a weapon. You couldn't be more off base.
Telephoto999
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I shouldn't have to talk about it with anyone. It was not related to a job function or relationship with any coworker.
I'm going to be frank here, but honestly.. It's none of their business.
It's fucking embarrassing, shameful and absolutely nerve wrecking when it's brought up. Due to the pain it's caused me it's not easy to talk about it in the slightest. Today has been the first day I've really been able to open up to anyone about it.
Telephoto999
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There are no words man. No words for what you just wrote.
Chinpoko_Master
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I was actually convicted of domestic assault too. The difference is that in my case, it was a fight with my brother and not a girlfriend/wife/partner and no blows were actually exchanged. That probably makes it easier for me to talk around, but it's not going to stop people from jumping to conclusions when they see "5th Degree Misdemeanor Domestic Assault".
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's absolutely their business you're a violent offender. Just because you haven't been caught again doesn't mean you haven't done it again. Domestic abuse goes largely unreported (using employers perspective, not saying you have). If you hit a "loved one" there's no telling what you would do at work.
The truth hurts. You're a violent offender like it or not.
Clearly as a corrections officer you don't give a fuck about your inmates or their rehabilitation.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Clearly you don't know shit about me or what I do at work.
If you can't realize why an employer wouldn't want t hire him I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty obvious.
Hah, oh. Well, I'm a short and small person. "Scary" was the first word that popped into my head.
If you want them to hire you, despite this conviction, then yes you need to talk about it. If they're considering you for employment (and doing background checks), they consider it their business.
Trust me when I say this OP. If you really believe I'm the "type" of person whose been rejecting you, then that means I have the most valuable advice to give you: If you want to have a chance, you have to disclose during your interview and show the interviewer that the person your conviction makes you look like, is not who you are. Tell them its embarrassing, it shows that you regret it!
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I've seen this guy troll a different community with photographs of dead cats before, don't engage with him.
Telephoto999
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You are on one serious superiority and power trip dude. Sadly, I fear many in your position feel the same way.
You need to quit your job.
You're right. People who hit woman usually only hit those they're romantically involved with, so it shouldn't affect the workplace.
AdventureRacing
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You sound like a real asshole brolic. He did something wrong and he served the punishment that was handed down to him. Basically making him unemployable for the rest of his life because of this one incident is bullshit.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
How you can derive that from me pointing out the liability if you being a violent offender is pretty telling.
It has nothing to do with me feeling superior. I'm telling you how it is.
You started this thread acting like it was "just a misdemeanor" yet it's not just any misdemeanor. It was domestic battery. Which is very serious (enough to remove your right to own/use a firearm).
That is the reason you're getting blown off. Not because of a "misdemeanor" it's because you beat up your significant other.
I know what all corrections officers do. In fact, I hear the same sob story from all of them about how dangerous a job it is, but we all know you accept bribes from inmates on the inside and from influences on the outside. How you gang up on them and use excessive force.
See how much generalizations about an entire group suck? It works both ways.
Liberty4all
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https://www.empireavenue.com/missions/view?id=41185428&l=2 ... hopefully this will help the OP to go viral. It's a horrible miscarriage of justice and I really feel for you OP. As an Employment Counsellor at a Career Centre I often work with individuals with criminal records. It's disgusting how a record from years ago can actively work to ruin a reformed person's life.
https://www.empireavenue.com/missions/view?id=41185428&l=2 ... hopefully this will help the OP to go viral. It's a horrible miscarriage of justice and I really feel for you OP. As an Employment Counsellor at a Career Centre I often work with individuals with criminal records. It's disgusting how a record from years ago can actively work to ruin a reformed person's life.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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You're giving us a pretty good picture of who you are whether you're conscious of it or not.
dripdripsplash
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Is it allright to hit a women who hit you first ?
To who? In case you haven't noticed, no one in this thread is taking your side.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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Morally? Debatable. Legally? You're more than likely going to be the one who suffers, regardless of who initiated contact.
Well, you must be pretty terrible at your job if you don't see a problem with companies barring ex-convicts from employment. The purpose of prison should be rehabilitation and reintegration into society. You can't do that if ex-convicts have no hope of finding legal employment. What the fuck do you think they are going to do then? Obvious answer is that that situation greatly increases the chances of them being a repeat offender since they have to resort to either living in abject poverty or the partaking in the illegal economy to survive.
There is a reason why the US has a 65% recidivism rate and Norway has a 20% recidivism rate. That reason is that Norway puts a lot more focus on rehabilitation, education, and reintegration into society, and doesnt put idiotic barriers in front of ex-convicts that bar them from actually becoming good, employed tax-paying citizens.
But hey, nothing like a high recidivism rate to keep up that job security
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The problem is that women are generally smaller and physically weaker than men. So if a man hits a woman, the injury to the women will be far in excess of the threat she posed to the man. The disparity would be the same, if we were talking about an 80 year old man and a 20 year old. The better course is to push her away, leave and/or call the police.
Telephoto999
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Knowing a man can cause much greater harm to a female of equal size or smaller size, why would she ever strike that man knowing what could possibly happen? I've seen this happen with friends girlfriends, out in public...women can be very instigating and confrontational to the point of physical. Just the other night on skype I heard my friends girlfriend start attacking him over the microphone while we were playing Dota. I'm not accusing you, but I find it hard to believe you've never confronted a man physically...can you honestly say you haven't?
GoldenEye 007
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People make dumb mistakes. People like you are what is wrong with our prison system. Fuck rehab. Just punish indefinitely. What a shitfuck industry.
Just how long should he pay for his crime? And people are shocked others reoffend.
ConradCervantes
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What if you push her and she falls and fractures her skull? When the cops interrogate me and the judge sentences me for manslaughter, I'll be like "But hey, I didn't hit her!" They'll be like "Oh, shit, you a'ight," and give me time served.
RoninChaos
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Something like this happened to a guy I know. He had his gun in his back seat in a bag and was searched. He went to court, got a mistermenor like you and has basically had the same problem. He gets turned away because his offense is labeled as a "violent offense" even though the gun wasn't discharged and was legally owned.
Georgia just fucking sucks sometimes. Maybe if you write out punk ass senators you can claim this is obama's fault and they'll try to help you. Otherwise they couldn't give a fuck about the young people in this state.
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