G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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TheAdmiester
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Is your refresh rate defaulting to 60Hz at that DSR resolution?
When I first got my monitor I forgot that GSync =/= 144Hz, it can be enabled while your monitor is still at 60Hz.
Game-related bug? I'm fairly sure I've encountered this in MGS:GZ (TPP was fine). I've played several games with 4K DSR at 60fps+, so it's certainly not a general issue.
Seems to be set correctly
I've tried in two games (Borderlands 2) and both default to 60 Hz/FPS at that Res.
I'll try more, I think HL1 was fine for example.
Azure Dream
Member
I hope there's further announcements on this at CES. I'd like to get it on a monitor that won't run me $700 or so.
Good monitors are like good T.V.'s, they'll last you years and personally I think are worth the investment for something you spend a lot of time looking at. I cant imagine the price of G-Sync monitors dropping too much as they are still very much a niche product and the technology will only be attached to high-end panels (at least for a while) that include other niche features.
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Has anyone else ever had weird issues with their monitors reporting a lower max refresh rate then they should?
I have an Acer XB270HU and last week I noticed that games felt stuttery, checked the nvidia control panel and saw that the refresh rate was set to 85hz, there were no options to select for it to go higher (the monitor should do 144hz). Investigation online suggested a below-par display port cable could be the issue, but the new one I bought results in the same 85hz.
In the on-board monitor menu, under information, the reported refresh rate is also only 85hz. I know for sure that this wasn't the case when I first bought it (it worked fine up until last week).
I have even tried the monitor on a friends PC with it only reporting 25hz on his pc!
Doctor Ironic
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Is there any change to input lag with GSync? I have a monitor with a 2ms response time that I'm in love with, but I'd like to look into GSync for the future.
vvv Oh, wow. That sounds fantastic.
vvv Oh, wow. That sounds fantastic.
Input lag is greatly reduced with GSync. Honestly, it's the biggest improvement for me, even more so than stutter reduction.
Input lag is the same as classical monitors with vsync off. Except you have no tearing.
The Meanest Dean
Neo Member
Is there a good reason to put off buying a high refresh g-sync type monitor right now? Any major changes coming in the next few months?
Jag
Member
Months? Probably not. I bought recently because I sick of gaming on a shitty monitor.
There is rarely ever a "good" time to buy new tech.
Only reason I see is to let manufacturers nail down their QC issues with a lot of these high-end gaming monitors. Other than that, if you have the money, go ahead and jump in.
QualityPixel
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The response time you are talking about is likely how quickly your pixels can switch black to white. Input lag is how long it takes for the monitor to actually display the image. Gsync and "gaming" monitors are typically less than 10ms input lag. Average computer monitors are around 25ms, and TV's range from low 20-80ms (depending on the TV and if it has a game mode).
What monitor do you have? I'll look and see if it has been measured.
I'd like to see a step towards standardization...
Especially, I'd like to see Adaptative Sync (the standard associated with FreeSync) issues solved (on the paper, it should be able to provide a better result than G-sync), and nVidia supporting it.
I've no doubt they will, they can't avoid adopting the last displayport specification. I don't care if they still use G-Sync as a name, but I'm reluctant to buy a G-Sync monitor because, if the result is great, it's still a non-standard technology tied to nVidia and probably not as much future-proof as I'd like.
Yes, monitors last years, and that's the problem: your GPU probably won't last as long. I'd still buy a G-Sync monitor if I had to buy one right now, but I'd be reluctant to pay close to a grand for it. I'd FAR prefer buying an adaptative-sync monitor knowing nVidia is supporting it.
This, and not being able to buy a 21:9 monitor with a damn white cabinet are the only things holding me back from making a purchase. I do not want to get burned on a monitor purchase. Kept my last one for 9 years.
Finaika
Member
Nvidia dominates the GPU market, so I think G-Sync will be future-proof.
You could use Nvidia inspector and setup a profile for the desired game there and cap it at X fps.
Turn on vsync in the manage 3d settings in your nvidia panel.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/g-sync-gets-even-better
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
This is incorrect. G-Sync does introduce additional input lag but less than standard VSync.
Cool, thanks. Will this introduce some input lag though?
It has 1 frame input lag due the scaler I believe.
Man, give me an OLED 144hz 1440p G-Sync monitor and I'd be one happy camper! Pascal and more powerful GPU's in the future might change my view on 4k but for now, 1440p is the sweet spot for gaming. I've been very happy with my ROG Swift and G-Sync has been truly incredible. I can't go back to anything less.
Hamster Plugin
Member
HDMI Freesync is not going to magically make it work with non-Freesync monitors or TVs. You will still need a Freesync monitor, and it will cost you (seems like it costs less than G-sync though).
tearsintherain
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Dell's recent 30" 4k OLED monitor is like $5k... so probably a few years off on that being affordable.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9923/dell-demonstrates-30inch-4k-oled-display
So the Acer Predator 27" went from 1080p to 1440p, anyone have thoughts which model is better?
Thinking about buying one, but not sure which I should go for. I currently have a Korean 27" 1440p thats not gSync but runs at 120hz, was thinking about using a gSync for primary (gaming) and the Korean as browser screen. So 1080p or 1440p doesn't make much difference to me, and I figure 1080p might be nicer so it aligns with Rift/Vive in rez for games.
I'm still deciding on whether to keep my Oculus Rift pre-order or buy myself a really nice 1440p/144hz G-Sync monitor and buy a VR device next year. I'll have £400 to spend at least either way so money isn't an issue.
The only issue is I've "only" got an i5 4690k and a 970, and a monitor of that caliber won't be properly used unless/until I upgrade with a top-tier Pascal card (whenever they come out). Whereas with the recommended specs I know that I'll at least be able to run most things made for the OR at the frame-rates it needs.
Any advice, GAF? I'm still trying to decide whether the hype of an Oculus is worth sticking around with my mediocre 1080p 60hz TN panel for a WHILE longer.
The only issue is I've "only" got an i5 4690k and a 970, and a monitor of that caliber won't be properly used unless/until I upgrade with a top-tier Pascal card (whenever they come out). Whereas with the recommended specs I know that I'll at least be able to run most things made for the OR at the frame-rates it needs.
Any advice, GAF? I'm still trying to decide whether the hype of an Oculus is worth sticking around with my mediocre 1080p 60hz TN panel for a WHILE longer.
I saw that earlier this week and it looks amazing! I'm glad someone is pushing for smaller but not phone small form factors in OLED. We are slowly getting closer to OLED as a main stay which will be fantastic in a few years. It bodes extremely well for high end PC gaming in the future even with VR having a massive impact on the industry.
mullet2000
Member
Picked up the Acer XB270HU today. I mostly got it for the 144p + 144hz combo but, G-sync, Hooooo-ley shit. This is incredible.
Experiencing 1440p, an IPS monitor, and G-sync for the first time all at once is quite something.
Experiencing 1440p, an IPS monitor, and G-sync for the first time all at once is quite something.
165Hz overclock in Gsync mode, HDMI input (and thus Gsync v2 module) and slimmer bezel (want ;_
. But yeah, that should be pretty much it.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
I have had a plasma for over half a decade, and let me tell you, any chance of burn in and image retention sucks. deep blacks are really nice, but man.. its such a hassle when your gaming, browsing (or anything else) and the image has the ghost effect
165Hz overclock in Gsync mode, HDMI input (and thus Gsync v2 module) and slimmer bezel (want ;_
Thanks. WTB imo
Aztechnology
Member
Sorry... but why exactly do people care if a monitor is 165hz vs 144hz?
Finaika
Member
165hz is smoother.
Aztechnology
Member
But I mean a big enough difference to warrant switching from 144hz to 165hz? I understand continuously increasing the refresh rate on these monitors. But is the 21hz at that high of a refresh rate really noticeably better?
"Whats the point of progress? Everything is good enough as it is!"
It's not only for people going from 144 -> 165. People will be upgrading from a 60z monitor too.