G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.

Burgess_101 said:
You mean with no Gysnc or Freesync?

You could always just buy the freesync one and not use it.
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Yes, I want to know if there's an option with no G-Sync nor FreeSync.

I mean, neither of those would make the display cheaper, no?

EDIT: I'm looking for those kind of displays, but I see a huge gap between 200€ 60hz and 500€ 144hz :(
 
EatChildren said:
Any panel or build quality differences between the Acer XB270HU and XB271HU?

Guys?

Sorry, just might go pick one of the two up and not sure if the 1HU is really worth the extra dollars.
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The 1HU has a different build (with a more gamerish stand, altough really thin bezels), has an HDMI-input, and can reach up to 165hz, compared to 144hz of the 0HU. But that's about all the difference there is, so the choice is up to you if you find those differences worth the extra dollars.

I also heard that the 1HU has almost no QC issues, but I guess Acer also fixed the issues now that the 0HU in it's first couple of months.
 
MekaDragon said:
Yes, I want to know if there's an option with no G-Sync nor FreeSync.

I mean, neither of those would make the display cheaper, no?

EDIT: I'm looking for those kind of displays, but I see a huge gap between 200€ 60hz and 500€ 144hz :(
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Ah I see your point. I was lucky enough to pick mine up when Amazon Warehouse were doing an extra 20% off or whatever on tonnes of items so I managed to get it for £370 (it was even cheaper after that like £320). I don't know which country you are in but I would just keep an eye on Amazon Warehouse Deals you can get a bargain. Might be cheaper importing from the UK via Amazon.

I lived in Germany for two years and somethings were stupidly expensive and was cheaper to get them sent over from England. Managed to get a 2TB WD External HDD for really cheap though on Amazon DE so swings and roundabouts.
 
Dahaka said:
HDMI + overclocking on the X271HU. Most likely 0 panel differences.
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Rolfgang said:
The 1HU has a different build (with a more gamerish stand, altough really thin bezels), has an HDMI-input, and can reach up to 165hz, compared to 144hz of the 0HU. But that's about all the difference there is, so the choice is up to you if you find those differences worth the extra dollars.

I also heard that the 1HU has almost no QC issues, but I guess Acer also fixed the issues now that the 0HU in it's first couple of months.
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Thanks guys :)

I suppose there's no way to tell if your 0HU is an early or recent model.
 
Rolfgang said:
The 1HU has a different build (with a more gamerish stand, altough really thin bezels), has an HDMI-input, and can reach up to 165hz, compared to 144hz of the 0HU. But that's about all the difference there is, so the choice is up to you if you find those differences worth the extra dollars.

I also heard that the 1HU has almost no QC issues, but I guess Acer also fixed the issues now that the 0HU in it's first couple of months.
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This is why I got it. HDMi doesn't mean anything until G-sync over HDMi comes out and that won't be until late this year.
 
Rolfgang said:
The 1HU has a different build (with a more gamerish stand, altough really thin bezels), has an HDMI-input, and can reach up to 165hz, compared to 144hz of the 0HU. But that's about all the difference there is, so the choice is up to you if you find those differences worth the extra dollars.

I also heard that the 1HU has almost no QC issues, but I guess Acer also fixed the issues now that the 0HU in it's first couple of months.
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HDMI is the big draw here, it'd be a nice monitor to plug a console into. It may be worth $100 to some people.

I don't know about the extra refresh rate, I mean you would have to be pretty hardcore to be able to tell the difference between 144hz and 165z.

EatChildren said:
Thanks guys :)

I suppose there's no way to tell if your 0HU is an early or recent model.
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Every Acer XB270HU has the manufacture date on it. If you get yours now, its definitely a recent model and I think most of the issues would be gone. It is a big chunk of money to risk not getting something perfect, but it was worth it to me at the time because it was the only 1440p/144hz/IPS/G-sync monitor at the time.

I got mine at launch, I was kind of annoyed cause I got a January 2015 model (but it turned out to be perfect).
 
Durante said:
Yeah, I saw that, really excited for it. The only question is how soon thereafter we'll see OLED monitors designed for gaming at decent prices.


Actually, current IPS monitors are exactly as shit when it comes to contrast as IPS monitors from 6 years ago. A complete standstill there :/
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My mistake, I just didn't want to completely overstate and scare people off of the current line of monitors. Compared to AMVA panels it's a pretty stark difference. I'm dreading a little coming from a Samsung JS9000 with a PVA panel to these monitors. How jarring is the change in contrast?
 
Burgess_101 said:
Does your GPU have displayport? That is needed for the likes of Gsync/freesync. As far as I can tell if doesn't it will only do 60hz at 1080p, something worth looking into maybe. As for scaling I am not too sure i'm afraid, I think it won't look too bad, obviously not great but fine. As mentioned above my shitty DGM monitor did an alright job scaling PS4 games.
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Yes it does. I'm using Display port for both my monitors currently. My 970 has 3x display port 1.2a and a HDMI 2.0 port.
 
arbok26 said:
Every Acer XB270HU has the manufacture date on it. If you get yours now, its definitely a recent model and I think most of the issues would be gone. It is a big chunk of money to risk not getting something perfect, but it was worth it to me at the time because it was the only 1440p/144hz/IPS/G-sync monitor at the time.

I got mine at launch, I was kind of annoyed cause I got a January 2015 model (but it turned out to be perfect).
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Cool. Might duck out tomorrow morning and get one then.
 
MekaDragon said:
I'm really tempted to get one of those, I like everything about it: IPS, 4ms, WQHD... But I have a GTX 970, and this one has FreeSync...

Argh, seriously, I want FreeSync support on NVIDIA cards and not depend on overly priced G-Sync modules...

The fact is I want to make the jump from 60hz to 144hz. I guess a GTX 970 is nice for that. Is there something like that but without FreeSync not G-Sync? I like those specs.
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Well it doesn't really cost them anything to do Freesync. So other similarly specced monitors will probably cost just as much. Given this uses the same panel as the Acer XB270HU which has been a Gsync monitor favorite I chose this.

I have a 970 as well. I figure the monitor at that price is good enough that it's worth getting regardless. Later if I don't use the freesync and decide to go Gsync I can always sell it.
 
EatChildren said:
Thanks guys :)

I suppose there's no way to tell if your 0HU is an early or recent model.
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The latest batch of 0HU are 165Hz enabled (OSD version 2.5+).
You can check the OSD version and date by accessing the factory menu.
To activate the factory menu press 5,5,4,4,2,3,5. 1 is the first button starting from the left, 6 is the power button.
 
Aztechnology said:
For higher framerate. I play a lot of graphically intensive games. Star Citizen for instance.
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Sorry its 9 and I am still waking up.

If you used Gysnc it would alleviate that.

I have a 390 that I use with mine and I can pretty much max games out at 1440p and not have to deal with stuttering.

As long as its above 35fps its smooth.
 
Burgess_101 said:
Sorry its 9 and I am still waking up.

If you used Gysnc it would alleviate that.

I have a 390 that I use with mine and I can pretty much max games out at 1440p and not have to deal with stuttering.

As long as its above 35fps its smooth.
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Foolish as it is, I'm taking a moral stance. I don't want to buy a G-sync monitor that locks me into having to purchase a Nvidia GPU. I want to support AMD and I think this may be the year for me.
 
Aztechnology said:
I'm taking a moral stance stupidly. I don't want to buy a G-sync monitor that locks me into having a Nvidia GPU. I want to support AMD and I think this may be the year for me.
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Ah okay. I agree with you on that stance, after the 3.5GB debacle I decided to go back to AMD. It was a rocky start with my 390 but we get along now.

My freesync monitor was probably the most financially sound decision I made for my PC in general. I feel like this GPU will last a lot longer than I had originally imagined because of it. My 390 was supposed to a be a stop gap, as I managed to pick one up for about the same price I sold my 780 for but its really doing the job with my monitor so it may be a while yet before I upgrade.
 
Makareu said:
The latest batch of 0HU are 165Hz enabled (OSD version 2.5+).
You can check the OSD version and date by accessing the factory menu.
To activate the factory menu press 5,5,4,4,2,3,5. 1 is the first button starting from the left, 6 is the power button.
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I thought only the X271HUs could OC to 165?
 
Damn, these 34" inch monitor I saw are really a new exciting way to play (saw the X34 in action) but 3K is still quite demanding for a GPU.
 
Vuze said:
Much like with 120Hz ULMB, Acer snuck 165Hz OC into recent revisions of the 0HU without mentioning it.
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Interesting. A part of me is a bit worried as I always assume being in Australia we're more likely to have older models floating about. But fingers crossed.
 
MekaDragon said:
Yes, I want to know if there's an option with no G-Sync nor FreeSync.

I mean, neither of those would make the display cheaper, no?

EDIT: I'm looking for those kind of displays, but I see a huge gap between 200€ 60hz and 500€ 144hz :(
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Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, buy I don't think Freesync is really an added cost. It's done through Display Port so the cost of a Freesync monitor should be roughly equivalent to one without.
 
Was anything really tempting announced at CES or are the curved widescreen IPS Acer and really high frequency IPS Asus still the best now and for the near future?
 
Sky Chief said:
Was anything really tempting announced at CES or are the curved widescreen IPS Acer and really high frequency IPS Asus still the best now and for the near future?
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Just this
Vuze said:
Somewhat relevant. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/35.htm#panels_jan

If that doesn't sound like they are made for the next gen of Gsync monitors... 30"/35" Ultra-wide curved 3440x1440 VA with 144Hz, DP1.3 :OO
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Sounds like a continuation of that Acer line with VA panels and DP 1.3 Which is great, but I imagine will cost a small fortune. My guess, $1499+
 
Well, that's that.

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Manufacture date is September 2015. OSD version isn't most recent, but there's nothing I'm playing at 165hz so I definitely don't need it.

Pros: I haven't noticed any dead/hot/stuck pixels yet. Tested with pure white and black backgrounds. This would be a first for me. In like...forever. Also, gsync seems to work just fine. No dithering like the first TN gsync I purchased.

Cons: Image quality isn't as a nice as my 1440p 60hz IPS, but that's okay. Biggest issue is gradient/contrast uniformity across the display. The right side definitely has a slightly darker tinge. But I'm not going to kick up a fuss about it because I cant be arsed, and it's not a problem when playing games.

Otherwise so far so good.

Just to query and rejog my memory; as long as gsync is on via my control panel, I don't need to turn on vsync or anything yeah?
 
epmode said:
It's usually best to disable vsync in the in-game menus.
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Cool, cheers.

I suppose the second question is just what calibration other XB270HU owners are using.
 
I still wuv my XB270HA so very much and I stand by my decision to go with the 1080p model. Frames before beauty.
 
what would be the best value 24" 1080p gsync monitor? that recent thread has got me very interested
Gonna be using a 970 so probably not much point bothering with 1440p when they seem to cost quite a bit more than the 1080p monitors
 
23qwerty said:
what would be the best value 24" 1080p gsync monitor? that recent thread has got me very interested
Gonna be using a 970 so probably not much point bothering with 1440p when they seem to cost quite a bit more than the 1080p monitors
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Dunno about pricing but enjoying the BenQ XL2420G with my 970. 24", 1080p, and has HDMI if you want to plug in something else.
 
For anyone else who bought a Dell 2716DG, the stock settings don't really do it justice. After some tweaking these are the settings I found work best for me, YMMV of course

nvidia control panel -> display -> adjust desktop color settings
Use Nvidia settings

brightness: 40%
contrast: 35-40%
gamma: .80-.82
vibrance: 62%
hue: 0

monitor button settings:
brightness 35%
contrast 60%
color: standard

before those changes neogaf (default theme) was showing up as a pale baby blue instead of white on the bottom half of the screen, its all balanced now. Not nearly as blindingly white and washed out either.

Also thought this was interesting, from toms hardware in august they did a blind test with a few fans and g-sync seemed to come out on top here (article is super long, results are close to bottom if you wanna skip ahead)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-freesync-versus-nvidia-g-sync-reader-event,4246.html

freesync-or-gsync.png
 
tearsintherain said:
Also thought this was interesting, from toms hardware in august they did a blind test with a few fans and g-sync seemed to come out on top here (article is super long, results are close to bottom if you wanna skip ahead)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-freesync-versus-nvidia-g-sync-reader-event,4246.html

freesync-or-gsync.png
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I read it before but it's objectively not a very successful study due to the lack of controlled variables. They aknowledge it's a flawed study in the post mortem. I'd be interest to read their next attempt though.
 
EatChildren said:
Well, that's that.

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Manufacture date is September 2015. OSD version isn't most recent, but there's nothing I'm playing at 165hz so I definitely don't need it.

Pros: I haven't noticed any dead/hot/stuck pixels yet. Tested with pure white and black backgrounds. This would be a first for me. In like...forever. Also, gsync seems to work just fine. No dithering like the first TN gsync I purchased.

Cons: Image quality isn't as a nice as my 1440p 60hz IPS, but that's okay. Biggest issue is gradient/contrast uniformity across the display. The right side definitely has a slightly darker tinge. But I'm not going to kick up a fuss about it because I cant be arsed, and it's not a problem when playing games.

Otherwise so far so good.

Just to query and rejog my memory; as long as gsync is on via my control panel, I don't need to turn on vsync or anything yeah?
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Try adjusting gamma to 2.5 and see how you like it or if it's better than your old 1440p one. When I first bought the Acer I notice the image was too washed out on 2.2 compare to my previous monitor.
 
EatChildren said:
Cool, cheers.

I suppose the second question is just what calibration other XB270HU owners are using.
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Use the ICC profile from TFTcentral to calibrate your monitor if you want the quick and easy method. Link. A lot of XB270HU users are using that and seem to like it alot.

If you haven't already you can also read the in depth TFTcentral review on the monitor to justify the purchase somewhat. Basically they said at the time it was the best gaming monitor ever. Link

Finally fire up CS:GO and start head shotting dudes.
 
Hadoken said:
Try adjusting gamma to 2.5 and see how you like it or if it's better than your old 1440p one. When I first bought the Acer I notice the image was too washed out on 2.2 compare to my previous monitor.
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I mean, if you don't want to try correcting via icc profile I guess.

And don't use the TFT central profile. At least on my panel, it was way off.

EDIT: Also, forget CS:GO. Play Titanfall where the 144 hz actually matters because of the game speed. :p
 
Thanks everyone :)

And yeah, I've got the TFT ICC profile loaded up and their settings. It looks okay, but I wouldn't mind trying some other tweaks to see how I can get the image to look. I'll try some of the other suggestions, and would be happy to give Bornstellar's ICM and settings.

I'm a little bit bummed that the right side of the screen has a blue tint. It's not noticeable in games, but browsing GAF And image editing it is. It's almost like the bright blue power light has bled all through the right side. Again, something I might try and get fixed later on.

I've also got overdrive set to Normal. Extreme introduces ghosting.
 
Vuze said:
I think it prevents screen tearing at 144Hz+.
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Yep, having both G-sync and v-sync on at the same time makes it so your frame rates won't exceed your refresh rate. In a driver update last year Nvidia made it so you can use G-sync without v-sync, which will lead to G-sync turning off once you go over your refresh rate.

In my experience not all games run well with the default G-sync + v-sync combo, so I'm glad that the option to turn off v-sync while still keeping G-sync exists. I just use MSI Afterburner to cap the frame rate so I'll never see tearing anyway.
 
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