Support NeoGAF

[DizzyCaffeine]

You should be able to bring up the menus and disable the overclock even without an input to the monitor.
I'd also try another DisplayPort output on the GPU and see if that works.
I suspect that the issue here is that the cable can't handle the extra bandwidth, as my understanding was that the "overclock" here was simply that NVIDIA GPUs and G-Sync displays were built to go beyond the DisplayPort 1.2 spec, not that anything is actually being "overclocked" here.

When you have it connected to DP, even if it doesn't get a signal, can you access the monitor's settings and disable the overclock?

edit: beat

Thank you! I was not able to access the monitor's setting without the signal, but I connected it via HDMI, went into settings, and did a factory reset. It was my only option, as the Overclock settings were greyed out over HDMI. It seems to be working now. What a scare...I didn't realize how accustomed I had become to G-SYNC.

 

[Arcteryx]

Viewsonic XG2703-GS is coming today.

My eyes haven't routinely seen a screen > 60Hz for probably ~10 years.

Not sure I'm ready.

 

[Lashley]

Viewsonic XG2703-GS is coming today.

My eyes haven't routinely seen a screen > 60Hz for probably ~10 years.

Not sure I'm ready.

My 144hz monitor blew me away

Still 1080p, but G-Synz AND 144hz? I'm more than happy

 

[TSM]

Viewsonic XG2703-GS is coming today.

My eyes haven't routinely seen a screen > 60Hz for probably ~10 years.

Not sure I'm ready.

You'll be most blown away by desktop usage. High refresh rate is one of the biggest quality of life improvements for day to day computer use.

 

[Ivan]

You'll be most blown away by desktop usage. High refresh rate is one of the biggest quality of life improvements for day to day computer use.

I'd like to hear more on this, please elaborate...

 

[Lashley]

I'd like to hear more on this, please elaborate...

First thing I noticed was smoother scrolling in file explorer and my internet browser

Used to it now, but I'd definitely notice the difference if I went back to 60fps

 

[inner-G]

I'd like to hear more on this, please elaborate...

Just mousing around feels like butter @ 144hz. It's weird to explain, but you don't "hesitate" as much when moving your mouse to click on a button or something like you do at 60hz.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

So what's the deal with ~144hz 3440x1440's this fall? Anything to look forward to?

 

[Arcteryx]

So what's the deal with ~144hz 3440x1440's this fall? Anything to look forward to?

Last I saw, the majority are delayed til next year.

 

[JWiLL]

Bit of a repost from the New PC Thread, but I have this beast arriving tonight from Amazon.

I'm using an ASUS 1080p/144hz right now which is obviously great for Overwatch/CS/etc, but I'm really looking forward to seeing the 1440 + IPS difference for single player games.

In some newer titles (Tomb Raider, Mass Effect, etc) I don't expect to hit 144 fps, so I'm excited to see the G Sync difference. Already read up on some of the tricks (cap at 141, etc)

I'm fairly certain a gtx 1080 is good enough to hit 144hz @ 1440p in quite a few games though.

This afternoon at work is going by VERY slowly.

 

[TheAssist]

I always wonder how much DPI should a mouse have for 4K? I have a 10 year old Razer Copperhead with 2k DPI on a 1080p screen. People always get crazy when they use my mouse because of the sensitivity settings. But I would guess with 4K you would need a much higher DPI count to get the same sensitivity with similar precision. Not that this an issue with mice these days which probably have 438479830420974 DPI for marketing purposes. But what do you really need?

 

[ZOONAMI]

I always wonder how much DPI should a mouse have for 4K? I have a 10 year old Razer Copperhead with 2k DPI on a 1080p screen. People always get crazy when they use my mouse because of the sensitivity settings. But I would guess with 4K you would need a much higher DPI count to get the same sensitivity with similar precision. Not that this an issue with mice these days which probably have 438479830420974 DPI for marketing purposes. But what do you really need?

I use a razer da chroma with adjustable dpi. For desktop use I keep it at 4k dpi usually but can toggle 6k and 1k. So yeah 2x the dpi for 2x the resolution as what you are using for dpi on your 1080p.

 

[Vipu]

I always wonder how much DPI should a mouse have for 4K? I have a 10 year old Razer Copperhead with 2k DPI on a 1080p screen. People always get crazy when they use my mouse because of the sensitivity settings. But I would guess with 4K you would need a much higher DPI count to get the same sensitivity with similar precision. Not that this an issue with mice these days which probably have 438479830420974 DPI for marketing purposes. But what do you really need?

1080p x 4 = 4k
800dpi x 4 = 3200dpi

Thats just my guess.

 

[Unai]

I always wonder how much DPI should a mouse have for 4K? I have a 10 year old Razer Copperhead with 2k DPI on a 1080p screen. People always get crazy when they use my mouse because of the sensitivity settings. But I would guess with 4K you would need a much higher DPI count to get the same sensitivity with similar precision. Not that this an issue with mice these days which probably have 438479830420974 DPI for marketing purposes. But what do you really need?

I don't know, but you can test it yourself by changing the resolution of your desktop. You'll notice instantly that the pointer will get very slower even when you are just downsampling.

 

[Paragon]

I always wonder how much DPI should a mouse have for 4K? I have a 10 year old Razer Copperhead with 2k DPI on a 1080p screen. People always get crazy when they use my mouse because of the sensitivity settings. But I would guess with 4K you would need a much higher DPI count to get the same sensitivity with similar precision. Not that this an issue with mice these days which probably have 438479830420974 DPI for marketing purposes. But what do you really need?

Unless you don't have the space, I generally wouldn't touch mouse resolution.
I find 800 CPI to be a good balance between sensitivity and precision at most resolutions. Even at 3840x2160, that would still only be 4.8" to cover the entire display.
In games though, I prefer to use the highest CPI setting the mouse has without more than a couple of frames of smoothing. (while also reducing in-game sensitivity as low as it can go)

I use a razer da chroma with adjustable dpi. For desktop use I keep it at 4k dpi usually but can toggle 6k and 1k. So yeah 2x the dpi for 2x the resolution as what you are using for dpi on your 1080p.

FYI, the Razer DeathAdder 2013/Chroma has severe smoothing (latency) above 1550 CPI. 1800 CPI for the DeathAdder Elite.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Last I saw, the majority are delayed til next year.

Unlucky. I guess more money in my pocket for the holiday season for gifts this year.

 

[Calibrated Chaos]

How would a 1070 handle two gsync monitors? I have an x34 but looking to possible get a 27 inch to pair it with for when I'm not playing in ultrawide

 

[Hesh]

LightBoost/ULMB have strict requirements for the framerate matching the refresh rate similar to VR's requirement of never dropping below 90 FPS - but VR can fall back on reprojection while LB/ULMB cannot. If it does not, you get very bad stutter and double images.
Fast Sync causes "microstutter" and requires that the framerate is at least 2x the refresh rate for a meaningful reduction in latency. It has to be much higher than that to match G-Sync.
The best option for reducing latency is to limit the framerate to 3 FPS below your refresh rate - but without G-Sync this will cause a noticeable stutter every second.
If you care about smoothness, the best you can do is use V-Sync and set the maximum pre-rendered frames option to 1.

Hmm, interesting video. My performance seems to be the opposite of his, though. V-Sync limits my frame rate, but with Fast Sync I don't get the stuttering or tearing he does in his video (and the lightboost eliminates ghosting that I saw otherwise with it off). As long as I use the Nvidia Control Panel to force Fast Sync on, then turn off V-Sync in the individual games I don't see any stuttering in the FPS games I play (Overwatch, Siege, Payday 2, Killing Floor 2, Borderlands, etc.).

 

[Lashley]

How do you guys keep your monitor clean?

I'm scared of breaking my PG248Q monitor

 

[Smokey]

I've made some moves recently and have downgraded to a 1060 and 1080p monitor. Was waiting on the Asus/Acer HDR monitors, but with the news that they were delayed, I decided to just stick to the above setup.

I'm curious, what's the best gsync monitor in the 23-25'' range? Preferably IPS?

 

[23qwerty]

How do you guys keep your monitor clean?

I'm scared of breaking my PG248Q monitor

What? Just wipe it down with whatever or use some fancy monitor cleaning liquid if you're scared

 

[TSM]

I don't get why not going below 30 is a problem anyway since it can just do arbitrary multiples of any frame rate. If the gpu is pulling 25, it can do 50hz and be just as good as native 25hz.

I don't know if it does work like that, but conceptually it seems feasible

It works just like that. Not only can it flawlessly display 25hz, but it can flawlessly display any arbitrary refresh rate like 24.976 hz for content in that format. MAME is amazing with gsync because you can play all the games at exactly their crazy refresh rates.

How do you guys keep your monitor clean?

I'm scared of breaking my PG248Q monitor

I've always just used a damp paper towel followed by a dry paper towel to clean my screens. I've never had an issue with any of my expensive TVs or monitors doing this over the years

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

What? Just wipe it down with whatever or use some fancy monitor cleaning liquid if you're scared

Yeah, a clean microfiber cloth and some lens solution that says it's good for LCDs and you're good to go. They're not going to scratch unless you wipe with something... scratchy.

 

[Ravelle]

How do you guys keep your monitor clean?

I'm scared of breaking my PG248Q monitor

I just don't touch it and only wipe dust off with a glasses cleaner cloth.

 

[Cannon Goose]

I've used some glasses cleaner spray and a microfibre cloth before and it worked very well.

 

[Lashley]

Ok, I've been using a proper dusting cloth, was just worried it was either ineffectual or damaging the screen

 

[TSM]

Ok, I've been using a proper dusting cloth, was just worried it was either ineffectual or damaging the screen

Never rub anything dry on your screen. There might be particles on the screen and rubbing them around with a dry cloth of any sort might cause them to scratch the coating.

 

[jim2point0]

I've made some moves recently and have downgraded to a 1060

Are you ok?

Blink twice if you're typing this against your will.

 

[Paragon]

I've always just used a damp paper towel followed by a dry paper towel to clean my screens. I've never had an issue with any of my expensive TVs or monitors doing this over the years

Paper towels are abrasive, you should never use one for that! It can completely ruin the coating on the display. (or glasses, camera lenses etc.)
Stick to a damp microfiber cloth. (I recommend e-cloth glass/polishing cloths) Don't use any pressure.
It shouldn't be necessary to use special cleaning solutions, water is fine. In fact, those cleaning solutions can often leave a residue, and some may damage the coatings on the display.

 

[Hallowed]

I was so, so close to buying an ASUS monitor to experience that 144hz G-Sync sweetness, but I just don't know if I can justify spending so much on a monitor. I know as soon as I click purchase, I may feel like shit.

 

[Lashley]

I was so, so close to buying an ASUS monitor to experience that 144hz G-Sync sweetness, but I just don't know if I can justify spending so much on a monitor. I know as soon as I click purchase, I may feel like shit.

Oh, but you won't 😏

Can you afford it? G-SYNC is so good, I only wish mine was 4k HDR and not 1080p

 

[Enclose]

I was so, so close to buying an ASUS monitor to experience that 144hz G-Sync sweetness, but I just don't know if I can justify spending so much on a monitor. I know as soon as I click purchase, I may feel like shit.

Had the same decision some days ago. It felt so good after i saw the monitor in action

 

[Hallowed]

Oh, but you won't 😏

Can you afford it? G-SYNC is so good, I only wish mine was 4k HDR and not 1080p

I can afford it, but the thought that pops into my head is "With this money, I could buy this monitor, or I could get so many games instead".

I'm slipping though. It's only a matter of time before I cave in. I want to experience g-sync.

 

[Flying Toaster]

I can afford it, but the thought that pops into my head is "With this money, I could buy this monitor, or I could get so many games instead".

I'm slipping though. It's only a matter of time before I cave in. I want to experience g-sync.

I usually would always recommend games but GSYNC is worth the purchase.

 

[Smokey]

Are you ok?

Blink twice if you're typing this against your will.

lol

 

[Lashley]

I can afford it, but the thought that pops into my head is "With this money, I could buy this monitor, or I could get so many games instead".

I'm slipping though. It's only a matter of time before I cave in. I want to experience g-sync.

Is there nobody you know who has it? That way you can see the difference before you buy?

 

[Hallowed]

Is there nobody you know who has it? That way you can see the difference before you buy?

Sadly no.

 

[bigzgod]

Sadly no.

Go see if there's any Best Buy near you that has this available for store pickup in less than an hour, which means they have it in stock and potentially with a store model for viewing?

It's a TN panel and not IPS but it's a really nice monitor with 1440p, 144hz, and Gsync. Also happens to be on sale this week, if you like it.

Link

 

[Water]

Finally I'm gonna get some time with a G-Sync display. Found a good deal and ordered an Asus PG279Q for my school classroom. For my personal use I'll hold on until the HDR stuff is out.

 

[Hallowed]

Go see if there's any Best Buy near you that has this available for store pickup in less than an hour, which means they have it in stock and potentially with a store model for viewing?

It's a TN panel and not IPS but it's a really nice monitor with 1440p, 144hz, and Gsync. Also happens to be on sale this week, if you like it.

Link

Sorry, I live in the UK. I don't think we have Best Buy over here.

As far as g-sync monitors go, what do you guys think about the Acer Predator XB271HU 27 inch?

 

[Vipu]

I can afford it, but the thought that pops into my head is "With this money, I could buy this monitor, or I could get so many games instead".

I'm slipping though. It's only a matter of time before I cave in. I want to experience g-sync.

If you think that monitor is the hardware that you look 100% of the time you use your pc dont you think its important part to be good?
Whats the point of having strong pc if you look all the stuff from crappy monitor.

 

[Fox the Sly]

I just got this bad boy the other day from Best Buy. It's the Dell S2716DG.

(Not my picture)

The Best Buy that I went to had this on display connected to an Alienware computer with an HDMI cable. I had to bring my own Display Port cable from home (they didn't have any open box cables I could use at the store) to test it out.

 

[paperspace]

⁣

 

[GavinUK86]

If I'm struggling to maintain 60fps in newer games on a 970, is it worth getting a G-sync monitor or a new GPU? If I'm understanding G-sync correctly, that would be the smart choice right?

 

[theRizzle]

If I'm struggling to maintain 60fps in newer games on a 970, is it worth getting a G-sync monitor or a new GPU? If I'm understanding G-sync correctly, that would be the smart choice right?

Yes, getting a G-sync monitor or new GPU would be the smart choice.

 

[Lashley]

If I'm struggling to maintain 60fps in newer games on a 970, is it worth getting a G-sync monitor or a new GPU? If I'm understanding G-sync correctly, that would be the smart choice right?

G-SYNC

I have a 970, and unless the FPS drop is absolutely massive, I usually never notice it

 

[Enclose]

G-SYNC

I have a 970, and unless the FPS drop is absolutely massive, I usually never notice it

1080p only.

 

[Lashley]

1080p only.

Yes, it's 1080p

 

[DizzyCaffeine]

What do you think someone with a 970 and a 2560x1440 G-SYNC display should upgrade to: a 1070 or a 1080?

 

[mullet2000]

What do you think someone with a 970 and a 2560x1440 G-SYNC display should upgrade to: a 1070 or a 1080?

I have a 980ti (so basically a 1070) with that same set up and the worst I've encountered so far is dropping things from ultra to high to maintain 60+ fps in certain games. I've never had to drop the res in a game yet.

I think the 1070 would serve you just fine.