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JJBro One

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Tguy said:
Off this list

1. Big Krit
2. Kendrick Lamar
3. J. Cole
4. Yelawolf
5. Drake
6. Kid Cudi
7. Wiz Khalifa
8. Childish Gambino
Does Blu count for this new generation? Also I would add Chuwwee on that list.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
mooooose said:
Drake is a modern Nate Dogg. Dude is killing it. Some of his producer's drums are repetitive. My only complaint.
mooooose said:
Drake is the king of hooks.


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DominoKid

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mooooose said:
Drake is the king of hooks.

Currently? Yeah he's the undisputed champion. He's got a real gift for that.
I've always thought that the hardest part of writing a song is the hook (verses are fucking easy) so rappers with good hooks really impress me.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
DominoKid said:
Currently? Yeah he's the undisputed champion. He's got a real gift for that.
I've always thought that the hardest part of writing a song is the hook (verses are fucking easy) so rappers with good hooks really impress me.

his hooks are catchy.. but Nate Dogg good? T-Pain good? Akon? naw...
 

TheOddOne

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Blackace said:
his hooks are catchy.. but Nate Dogg good? T-Pain good? Akon? naw...
Nobody could touch Nate Dogg when he was alive, now he's dead nobody will ever get or deserve his crown. Trully the G.O.A.T. of hooks of all time.
 

Tokubetsu

Member
The mix on Fear of God II, at least on some of the songs, is fucking awful. Complete garbage. There are 128k mixtapes from your local rapper thats better mixed than "Amen."
 

IrishNinja

Member
wait, a page back, @ OF & paper tigers...since when does backing up lyrics matter in hip-hop? i know the gangsta stuff fronts here & there, but cmon, RZA & crew did some shit but nothing like the Gravediggaz tracks. i thought we've done dark fantasy type shit here for years.

RIP Nate, king of hooks. but t-pain's hooks are mostly weak for me, id go for Drake over his. akon's had a few i dug though - hearing "never gonna get it" or whatever over fight night years back was cool.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Macca007 said:
I was being serious. If we're talking slower paced songs, I think she's really good.

Benchmark is pushing it a bit... Pleasure P, Ne-Yo, Dream to name a few do it better IMO...
 

Macca

Member
Blackace said:
Benchmark is pushing it a bit... Pleasure P, Ne-Yo, Dream to name a few do it better IMO...
Haha yea, I totally realized that when I posted it. A little hyperbolic to be sure.

I suppose it depends if we branch out to artists who primarily reside in other genres. People like Rihanna and John Legend come to mind as singers who provide damn good hip hop hooks.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Am I the only one who's not really fond of The Dream here? I think he writes good hooks, but often I don't like his singing.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
enzo_gt said:
Am I the only one who's not really fond of The Dream here? I think he writes good hooks, but often I don't like his singing.

I like the dream as a producer and featuring artist. Really don't like his solo work... But if you look at ALL the hits he worked on as a ghostwriter and producer you can help but to respect him
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Beyoncé - "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Cassie
"Nobody But You"
"I'm a Lover" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Ciara
Fantasy Ride (2009)
"High Price" featuring Ludacris (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Like a Surgeon" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Lover's Thing" featuring The-Dream (Co-produced)
"Keep Dancin' On Me" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Basic Instinct (2010)
"Basic Instinct (U Got Me)" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Ride" featuring Ludacris (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Girls Get Your Money" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Speechless" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"You Can Get it" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Wants For Dinner" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"I Run it" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Diddy - "Change"
Donnie Klang - "Hurt That Body"
Flo Rida - "Respirator" (produced with Los Da Mystro)
Electrik Red - "So Good" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Jamie Foxx
(featuring T.I.) "Just Like Me" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
(featuring Kanye West & The-Dream) "Digital Girl" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Janet Jackson - "The Greatest X" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Justin Bieber - "Baby" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Keyshia Cole - "Finally"
Lionel Richie - "Forever and a Day" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Mariah Carey
"Touch My Body" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Obsessed" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"H.A.T.E.U." (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"They Don't Know Me" (Unreleased) (produced with Tricky Stewart
Mary J. Blige
Stronger with Each Tear"
"Kitchen (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Mario - "Starlight"
Nivea
"Intro: Rain"
"Complicated"
"Fulton County Correctional Call (Interlude)"
"Breathe (Let It Go)" (Co-Producer)
"Indian Dance"
"Okay (Red-Cup Version)"
"It's All Good"
Rihanna -
"Umbrella" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Whipping My Hair" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Hard" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
"Rockstar 101" (produced with Tricky Stewart)
Beyoncé -
"TBA"
Kim Kardashian -
"Jam (Turn it Up)"
[edit]Writing credits

3LW - "You Ain't Ready"
Ashanti - "Medicine"
B2K - "Everything"
Bayje
- "Still in Love"
- "Missin' You"
Beyoncé
- "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)"
- "Smash Into You"
- "1 + 1"
- "Love on Top"
- "Countdown"
- "End of Time"
- "Run the World (Girls)"

Boss - "Butterfly Effect"
Billy Crawford - "Bright Lights Big City"
Brit and Alex
- "Beautiful"
- "Heart Breaker"
- "Preachin' to the Choir"
- "Thats My Baby"
Britney Spears - "Me Against the Music" (feat. Madonna)
Brooke Valentine - "Ghetto Superstarz"
Celine Dion - "Skies of L.A."
Chris Brown - "You"
Ciara
- "Ciara To The Stage"
- "High Price"
- "Like A Surgeon"
- "Keep Dancing" (feat. The-Dream)
- "Lover's Thing" (feat. The-Dream)
Dear Jayne
- "Talkin' 'Bout Himself"
- "I Loose Everything"
Diddy - "Change"
J. Holiday
- "Bed"
- "Laa Laa"
- "Suffocate"
Jamie Foxx
- "Just Like Me (feat. T.I.)"
- "Slow"
- "Rainman"
- "Why"
- "Digital Girl (feat. Kanye West)"
Janet Jackson - "Greatest X"
Jennifer Lopez - "Louboutins"
Jesse McCartney -"Leavin"
Jon McLaughlin - "Smack Into You"
Justin Bieber
- "One Time"
- "Baby" (feat. Ludacris)
Karina Pasian - "16 @ War"
Lindsay Lohan
- "Washing My Hands"
- "Problem Solver (Call Me)"
Lloyd
- "I Need Love"
Lucy Walsh
- "Forever Since"
- "So Uncool"
Mario - "Crazy Kind of Love"
Mariah Carey
- "Touch My Body"
- "Touch My Body (remix)" (feat. The-Dream)
- "Betcha Gon' Know (The Prologue)"
- "Obsessed"
- "H.A.T.E. U"
- "Candy Bling"
- "Ribbon"
- "Standing O"
- "Inseparable"
- "Up Out My Face"
- "More Than Just Friends"
- "The Impossible"
- "They Don't Know Me (Unreleased)"
- "I Need Things"

Mary J. Blige
- "Grown Woman" (feat. Ludacris)
- "Just Fine"
- "Feel Like a Woman"
- "Shake Down" (feat. Usher)
- "Roses"
- "Come to Me (Peace)"
- "Nowhere Fast"
- "Mirror" (feat. Eve)
- "Kitchen"
Mýa - "Like Crazy"
Nicole Scherzinger - "Powers Out" (feat. Sting)
Nivea
- "Complicated"
- "I Can't Mess with You"
- "Indian Dance"
- "Let It Go"
- "Okay" (feat. Lil Jon & YoungBloodZ)
- "Red Cup" (feat. The-Dream)
- "Watch It"
Raheem DeVaughn - "Customer"
Rihanna
- "Breakin' Dishes"
- "Lemme Get That"
- "Sell Me Candy"
- "Umbrella"
- "Hatin' On The Club"
- "Hard" (feat. Young Jeezy)
- "Rockstar 101" (feat. Slash)

Shawn Desman
- "No More"
- "Man in Me"
- "Ooh"
Steph Jones - "La La Means Love"
Sterling Simms - "All I Need"
Sugababes - "Gotta Be You"
Usher
- "Moving Mountains"
- "This Ain't Sex"
- "Trading Places"
Yung Joc - "Coffee Shop" (feat. Gorilla Zoe)



Just damn
 

Macca

Member
Blackace said:
Just damn
That's mighty impressive. Was just looking through Ye's production discography. Funny to see that the RED album is the only Game album without a Yeezy song.

Ace, what are your thoughts on Teriyaki Boyz? The production they get is damn impressive, as well as the features. How big are they in Japan?
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Macca007 said:
That's mighty impressive. Was just looking through Ye's production discography. Funny to see that the RED album is the only Game album without a Yeezy song.

Ace, what are your thoughts on Teriyaki Boyz? The production they get is damn impressive, as well as the features. How big are they in Japan?

I like them... But have been a huge fan of Verbal for years... Funny that you say that because just became friends with one of his producers he did Blackout on his solo album..

But to answer your question they peaked when they came out with their super album serious Japanese and then just kinda fell off..

M-Flo is still rocking
 
Blackace said:
M-Flo is still rocking
I was worried that they would break up, but I read up about them a few days ago. Fortunately they're just wrapped up in different projects and apparently Verbal released a solo album.

I can't wait for them to work together again. I almost have all of their stuff, including when Lisa was a part of the group.
 

Double D

Member
Finally got around to getting some music on my iPhone after not having a computer to sync it to for a while. I gotta say, I was pretty lukewarm on ASAP Rocky before, but I'm really enjoying LiveLoveASAP. Not gonna say he's the greatest rapper by any stretch, but goddam my ears like what is coming out of the speakers. Clams Casino did some fine work here. Also, if Weezy doesn't go in on that Kissin Pink beat at some point I'll eat my hat.
 

joelseph

Member
On “Brand New Guy”— one of the hardest, chest thumping, shit talking songs on Live.Love.A$AP — A$AP Rocky says “fuck fly, I am fashion.” For the last week I’ve been trying to figure out what the fuck that means. Don’t get me wrong, the line sounds unbelievably cool. But the shit doesn’t really make sense if you think about it too long. At the same time though, rap was invented so dudes could say wild shit like that to an audience bigger than the 10 assholes they hang out with on a regular basis. If this was ’03, there’d be about ten thousand questionably attired dudes on MySpace using that quote as their headline. None of them would know what the fuck it meant either, but, you wouldn’t be able to tell those dudes shit. And that’s kind of what the record is all about. Live.Love.A$AP takes the feeling of being so fly that a motherfucker can’t tell you shit and stretches it out for about an hour. The record slows down time and lets you bask in your own reflection, daring anyone to challenge your swag.

One of the things that make Live.Love.A$AP work is that it sounds like nothing else out today, yet, it sounds like everything going on today. It’s a weird paradox. The Schrodinger’s Cat of rap if you want to get unnecessarily philosophical. The production pulls overt references from a ton of different places and times and synthesizes them into a style that unique to A$AP Rocky. There’s some Bone Thug flow, a bunch of nods to Houston and Memphis production, some post Kanye designer shoutouts, Clams Casino cloud rap production and a ton of Cam’ron’s dapper dandy narcissism. All mixed up in service of aggrandizing A$AP Rocky — and by the transitive powers of rap, the listener.

After hearing the single “Peso” — which sounds like a dude trying to kick game to a chick from inside a scene of a cartoon having a hallucination—you won’t be surprised to realize the entire album sounds like it was crafted by Darth Vader, DJ Screw and the ghost of Zack Morris from that one episode where dude almost smoked a joint. It wavers between sinister, screwed up tracks that sound like bad trips where machine elves tell you about their secret plans to invade our dimension and wavy compositions that sound like spending an afternoon doing the Dougie with those elephants from Dumbo. When the album gets full on hallucinatory, it’s a thing of swagged out beauty. “Wassup” produced by Clams Casino, sounds like heaven and Rocky just floats all over the track, knowing exactly when to dart in between the spaced out claps and when to sing song into the background ghost sounds. At the same time, the track speaks to the reoccurring theme of being fly as fuck and having everyone know it. Rocky spends the song talking about getting recognition in the hood and gangsters celebrating him for being “that pretty motherfucker.” Heads that fucked with The Wire can think of it as a song that expounds on Marlo’s motivating desire to have his name ring out. It’s about the desire for recognition and respect over all else. Heads that didn’t fuck with The Wire can think of it as a requiem for the girl who campaigned really hard to be prom queen and just ended up being a title less face in smeared eyeliner getting finger banged at a bonfire. “Trilla” sounds like a song written while A$AP Rocky was riding a horse in those Jeremy Scott winged Adidas kicks. That’s to say it’s got an ill country twang but it’s still over the top shit talk. “Leaf” featuring Main Attrakionz is classic Clams Casino cloud rap that makes you wonder if dude has an amazing connect to deadstock New Age records.

Live.Love.A$AP ultimately feels like fashion rap. Not because of the obvious shoutouts to Jeremy Scott and Rick Owens, but, because it feels like a suit you can put on and stunt in. It’s not so much about the lyrics individually or the production or delivery. Instead it’s the cumulative feeling from listening to the record, a feeling that you too can be a “pretty motherfucker”
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Macca007 said:
I posted a video that turned out to be something it wasn't. Should've read the youtube comments sooner. Haha. Some random dude claiming to be Dre's son.

EDIT: Oh fuck. Maybe it is his son. God I'm confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mprFPE5OO4

That was the video. Sure seems like dre.

Yeah, he's Dre's son. I know the guy handling a lot of the sound production (look for Ghostman in the liner notes).

I might end up being the guys photographer, too. S
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Macca007 said:
I posted a video that turned out to be something it wasn't. Should've read the youtube comments sooner. Haha. Some random dude claiming to be Dre's son.

EDIT: Oh fuck. Maybe it is his son. God I'm confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mprFPE5OO4

That was the video. Sure seems like dre.
At the age of 12, Curtis Young went through an emotional rollercoaster when he was told the truth of who his biological father was. Young had a stepfather by the name of Andre. But once an argument over a pair of sneakers came about, Young discovered this Andre was not his biological father; at this point, his mother told him Andre Romell Young (“Dr. Dre”) was his real father.

“Well people got to know who I am, that is what ‘Product of My DNA’ is going to intel,” said emerging rapper, Curtis Young. The Paramount, California native has been very productive as he is following the footsteps of his father, West Coast hip hop pioneer, Dr. Dre.

“It was life changing and real for me, said Young. “Before I found out at 12, I felt something was missing in my life and once I found out it felt like the right person made everything complete pretty much,’ he added.

Meeting his father for the first time at the age of 21, Young realized his father’s legacy. He wanted to continue the legacy but not known as Dr. Dre’s son, but as Curtis Young by bringing a new era to the West Coast.

His career started in the 2000’s when he was known as “Hood Surgeon.” Opening up an independent label, Hood Records, Young immediately acquired several talented newcomers. But Young left the Hood Surgeon behind for a more mature personality and artist with Young Entertainment Inc., and be known to the industry and world as “Curtis Young.”

His dedication and determination in the music industry is truly turning into much success for Young as he has generated a heavy buzz through mixtapes, which have many anticipating the release of his album. Young has recently released his first singles, “The Delivery” and “Natural High.” “The Delivery” has taken college radio stations by storm, jumping the charts to #1 in all categories. Currently, his newly release single, “Natural High,” has hit Billboards Top 100 Charts and debuted at #88 this June.

“Felt real good,” said Young. “It felt like all the hard work is paying off and I want people to understand the whole Curtis Young story,” he added.

Young wants the world the understand his story but that he is bringing a new era and style to the west coast and that the hip hop game now is different from the pinnacle his father started 20 years ago. “The realness in hip hop, the story vibes like the Nas, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie is different on the line of storytelling,” said Young.
 

Esch

Banned
IrishNinja said:
wait, a page back, @ OF & paper tigers...since when does backing up lyrics matter in hip-hop? i know the gangsta stuff fronts here & there, but cmon, RZA & crew did some shit but nothing like the Gravediggaz tracks. i thought we've done dark fantasy type shit here for years.
Yeaaa but i can see members of the diggaz at least having killed a man or something namsayin. I can see them dudes hurlin bodies into woodchippers... I just can't take OF seriously in the same way, these dudes think they're some sort of antiestablishment movement cause they skip school and shit.
 
Thank you Tokubetsu for mentioning that Doppelgangaz album a few pages back. So good. I got 2012: A New Beginning, and it's just as good. I love their production.
 

DominoKid

Member
enzo_gt said:
Am I the only one who's not really fond of The Dream here? I think he writes good hooks, but often I don't like his singing.

The-Dream is the idiot savant of R&B in that he can't sing, but he's a modern day genius at songwriting & production. He gets it in whether it's his own shit or somebody elses.
 

mooooose

Member
joelseph said:
On “Brand New Guy”— one of the hardest, chest thumping, shit talking songs on Live.Love.A$AP — A$AP Rocky says “fuck fly, I am fashion.” For the last week I’ve been trying to figure out what the fuck that means. Don’t get me wrong, the line sounds unbelievably cool. But the shit doesn’t really make sense if you think about it too long. At the same time though, rap was invented so dudes could say wild shit like that to an audience bigger than the 10 assholes they hang out with on a regular basis. If this was ’03, there’d be about ten thousand questionably attired dudes on MySpace using that quote as their headline. None of them would know what the fuck it meant either, but, you wouldn’t be able to tell those dudes shit. And that’s kind of what the record is all about. Live.Love.A$AP takes the feeling of being so fly that a motherfucker can’t tell you shit and stretches it out for about an hour. The record slows down time and lets you bask in your own reflection, daring anyone to challenge your swag.

One of the things that make Live.Love.A$AP work is that it sounds like nothing else out today, yet, it sounds like everything going on today. It’s a weird paradox. The Schrodinger’s Cat of rap if you want to get unnecessarily philosophical. The production pulls overt references from a ton of different places and times and synthesizes them into a style that unique to A$AP Rocky. There’s some Bone Thug flow, a bunch of nods to Houston and Memphis production, some post Kanye designer shoutouts, Clams Casino cloud rap production and a ton of Cam’ron’s dapper dandy narcissism. All mixed up in service of aggrandizing A$AP Rocky — and by the transitive powers of rap, the listener.

After hearing the single “Peso” — which sounds like a dude trying to kick game to a chick from inside a scene of a cartoon having a hallucination—you won’t be surprised to realize the entire album sounds like it was crafted by Darth Vader, DJ Screw and the ghost of Zack Morris from that one episode where dude almost smoked a joint. It wavers between sinister, screwed up tracks that sound like bad trips where machine elves tell you about their secret plans to invade our dimension and wavy compositions that sound like spending an afternoon doing the Dougie with those elephants from Dumbo. When the album gets full on hallucinatory, it’s a thing of swagged out beauty. “Wassup” produced by Clams Casino, sounds like heaven and Rocky just floats all over the track, knowing exactly when to dart in between the spaced out claps and when to sing song into the background ghost sounds. At the same time, the track speaks to the reoccurring theme of being fly as fuck and having everyone know it. Rocky spends the song talking about getting recognition in the hood and gangsters celebrating him for being “that pretty motherfucker.” Heads that fucked with The Wire can think of it as a song that expounds on Marlo’s motivating desire to have his name ring out. It’s about the desire for recognition and respect over all else. Heads that didn’t fuck with The Wire can think of it as a requiem for the girl who campaigned really hard to be prom queen and just ended up being a title less face in smeared eyeliner getting finger banged at a bonfire. “Trilla” sounds like a song written while A$AP Rocky was riding a horse in those Jeremy Scott winged Adidas kicks. That’s to say it’s got an ill country twang but it’s still over the top shit talk. “Leaf” featuring Main Attrakionz is classic Clams Casino cloud rap that makes you wonder if dude has an amazing connect to deadstock New Age records.

Live.Love.A$AP ultimately feels like fashion rap. Not because of the obvious shoutouts to Jeremy Scott and Rick Owens, but, because it feels like a suit you can put on and stunt in. It’s not so much about the lyrics individually or the production or delivery. Instead it’s the cumulative feeling from listening to the record, a feeling that you too can be a “pretty motherfucker”
I completely agree. I listen to that ASAP tape and feel cool as fuck. It is positive reinforcement of how fucking fly I am.
 
enzo_gt said:
He still bought it though.

Hold that L, Kno.
That comment by Kno is how I wish everyone felt about COD. Its an expensive map pack, but if you enjoy the game why wouldn't you buy it, especially if you get your moneys worth out of the mp. Justt acknowledge that it is The Madden of FPSs, I enjoy a game of Madden every once in a while and if you like so much you pay yearly for whatever upgrades, go ahead enjoy yourself.
 

Recon

Banned
I just find CoD's insanely stupid perk system to completely ruin what was once a fun multiplayer game. CoD2 was so damn fun online...I miss those days.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
MorisUkunRasik said:
That comment by Kno is how I wish everyone felt about COD. Its an expensive map pack, but if you enjoy the game why wouldn't you buy it, especially if you get your moneys worth out of the mp. Justt acknowledge that it is The Madden of FPSs, I enjoy a game of Madden every once in a while and if you like so much you pay yearly for whatever upgrades, go ahead enjoy yourself.
Can't argue with this, though I say that cause I'm not liking what they've done to MW3 specifically and won't be buying it, I've gone cold turkey on FPSs altogether lately. Im mad hype to buy UMvC3 next week though, an upgraded, budgetly-castrated, sent to die because of release date version of the same game I bought 9 months ago. JUSTGIMMEMORE.
 

kodecraft

Member
mooooose said:
Drake is the king of hooks.



DominoKid said:
Currently? Yeah he's the undisputed champion. He's got a real gift for that.
I've always thought that the hardest part of writing a song is the hook (verses are fucking easy) so rappers with good hooks really impress me.


Better hooks than Chamillionaire? 50 Cent?...I think these guys have some of the best hooks in the game.
 
Perks are genius, they're just not for me. Players having an advantage because they play more is just not what I want in a FPS that I pick up and play occassionally.

On the flipside if I had the time and the drive to play often I'd probably like the system. It just keeps me from jumping in cause I know I have better things to do than play a few hours of COD a day.

Imagine if you played NBA 2K and the opposing player gets stat boosts cause he has played more than you? That's whack, even with matchmaking Id prefer a complettely level playing field in my FPSs. As a guy who has less and less time to devote to video games, It sucks that the perk idea is seeping into all MPs now
 
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