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GAF-HOP: New Official 2010+ Thread of "hiphop ain't dead"
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OttomanScribe
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I'll see what I can doK.Jack said:
A cross section (not necessarily a fan of all of em but try to be representative)
Briggs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQBCJIEnQJM
Urthboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gNHDZn9H30
HorrorShow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPcdtt66tY
Drapht
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6YTXyITaQ
Justice & Kaos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz_RCAfZwpU
Hilltop Hoods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xu8CcamT4
The Herd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQnGqdFO9EY&feature=related
Bliss n Eso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzrCp17a9k
360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqfnN8d8rU
Pez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tczH283SwkA
Def Wish Cast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX4Om51H1o8
1200 Techniques
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbXj8L4U4hQ
Astronomy Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkhYG5hRC1E
Brad Strut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRCq32KsXko
The Last Kinection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSAIiDXHLD0
Chopper Read (yeah.. that Chopper lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9QXkL4Deg
Spit Syndicate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xHBd86Rk6E
Hyjak n Torcha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5prK5aQbwA
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Only Aus rappers I know of is Justice and 360 and that's only because of this pretty funny battle rap they were in.
Tokubetsu said:
i'm generally pret ty okay with popular culture references in rap. that's how it is. my adidas, etc. guess jeans? okay. dudes could afford that shit. british knights? sure. GUCCI? fucking GUCCI? you can't walk into a GUCCI store without some houseboy opening the door for you. and you're not walking out of there without spending a grand. on a bag. or shoes. and you shouldn't either. if there was a glitz rapper called LOUIS VUITTRON, would you love and worship him, too? i hope not. these people deserve RIDICULE, not props and salutations.
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Hell: The Sequel is a damn good 4/5. The only tracks I'm not feeling that much are I'm On Everything, and Lighters.
Loud Noises is crazy.
Loud Noises is crazy.
OttomanScribe
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Yeah, 360 is a hilarious battle rapper.Tguy said:
This one is freaking hilarious... not necessarily because it was a good battle, but because in the third round he reads a letter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxFdJoSHgcw
60 does charisma really well, though sometimes he makes up for average rhymes with it.
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This is the battle rap I was talking aboutOttomanScribe said:
I actually see guys wearing gucci stuff here more than girls. They be saving up for that stuff and they get it because rappers wear it and talk about it lol.coldvein said:
ShinobiFist
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Ottoman, amazing post. Can't wait to hear those artist you posted.
OttomanScribe
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Yeah I've seen it, Madness used his 'letter reading' thing in a battle against this female mc recently.Tguy said:
OttomanScribe
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I'm sure I missed quite a few. I like the more intellectual ones, the Herd are the best for that stuff. Hilltop can be good, even though they get dissed for selling out. Suffa MC's rapper tag was EPIC:ShinobiFist said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dICCh0XWCM
Apparently they paid 250k for the sample in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFT2OKcdk0&feature=fvwrel
lol.
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Lol this Keynote guy is a joke, I can't take him seriously at all. That letter reading is hilarious, it's like 360 analyzed the hell out of this guy and told his whole life story. You can tell Keynote was pretty pissed about that.OttomanScribe said:
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illadelph said:
The piano + effects that kick in during Budden's verse are too nice. Joell fuggin spazzed too.
EDIT: Havoc brought the heat with that Welcome To Hell beat. Gotdamn.
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coldvein said:
Swagger jacking????? Welcome to Hip-Hop, we take shit and make it are own. Is been like that since day one. From the fashion and music.
OttomanScribe
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Yeah, their battle was personal, they've been having this weird internet beef for a while.Tguy said:
60 can be kinda gimmicky but it is worth it for the troll value. The media reaction to this song was hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZSeZ5SeHA
Bec Cartright is a 'famous' actor and Leyton Hewitt is a tennis player. They are one of those lame celebrity couples. There were all these morning radio stations attacking him all offended, not getting that he is taking the piss.
Knux-Future
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Bad meets evil is okay.
Em really needs to stop yelling...seriously.
Em really needs to stop yelling...seriously.
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When have you started listening to hiphop/rap? Because this has been going on for at least 15 years now.....I'm sure much longer than thatcoldvein said:
Notorious BIG - "Living better now, Coogi Sweater Now"
Damn Grzi lol
Knux-Future
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coldvein said:
It's getting annoying as fuck and it hurts the ears after awhile.
I think Royce got him on most of the songs on this due to this yelling.
ShinobiFist
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coldvein said:
You have to be joking...Dude, is been like that since day uno, wtf. Motherfuckers talking about their Kango hats and Fila's and shit in the 80's and shit. And what's the deal with this "English" Language remark?
OttomanScribe
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Biggie isn't hip hop! He talks about Gucci!Tguy said:
Tguy said:
since i was old enough to get tapes for my birthday. so.. err.. 22 years ago?
i dig the lyric. i dig biggie. but that dude is dead. and i'm quite certain that in his heart all he wanted was good times for his friends and family. gucci sweaters or not. to me, hiphop has always been a people's movement. it's blue collar. it's (at its best times) about raising your community up. helping your neighbor. alot of people apparently disagree with that.. but that's my story and i'm gonna stick with it.
if you walk down my poor ass block with a gucci hat on i'm gonna pull it off your head, take a shit in it and then put it right back.
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Hmm..coldvein said:
ShinobiFist
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And Gucci sweaters....And helping your neighbor.....WTF, you think Hip-Hop is State Farm insurance? Hip-Hop Is about one thing only, having a good time. Ask Puffy.coldvein said:
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I'm not sure what does Biggie being dead has to do with anything, but I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying fashion has been part of hiphop/rap, whatever you call it, as long as that other stuff. Wearing big chains and shit, showing off, and bragging.coldvein said:
You can stick with that story and believe hiphop isn't about fashion just as much as being broke, going from rags to riches, or helping your community out, but you'll be wrong if you do.
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I'm not wearing a Gucci hat. Never had in fact. However I shall in future check my turban... just in case your anger spills into the real world.coldvein said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hWeIDg9oE&feature=related
Tguy said:
so we disagree. that's fair. to me the big chains and bullshit have always been and should always be just a bonus of the fact that creative cats can get themselves out of rags and come to riches (through their music). yeah, i suppose alot of the time what rappers are concerned with talking about is how bad they are, how good they are..i dig that, that's part of the culture..competition makes people rugged. that's respectable. saying "i have a more itialian shirt on than you" doesn't. or "i have more expensive shoes on than you" doesn't. that's piss in the wind. and that's alot of what rap is today. i'm just saying i don't like it.
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I think that hip hop isn't just one thing. It means lots of different things to lots of different people. I mean some parts will appeal more than others, depending on who listens. I mean I like people like Kweli and the Narcysist because they talk about things that interest me. Some people like that swagger stuff, or the big noting, 'bullsh*** ice-rap' or whatever.
Doesn't mean it isn't hip hop, just means it is a different part of a broad thing. While I think that it is easy to idealise the roots of it all as being a movement with principles and meaning and stuff like that, since the beginning not everyone has seen it that way. Not that I was there at the beginning, but thats how it seems to me.
Doesn't mean it isn't hip hop, just means it is a different part of a broad thing. While I think that it is easy to idealise the roots of it all as being a movement with principles and meaning and stuff like that, since the beginning not everyone has seen it that way. Not that I was there at the beginning, but thats how it seems to me.
I think Vein just wants to hold the culture to what he feels is a higher standard. No doubt, materialism has been intrinsic to hip hop since the beginning, but that doesn't mean it can't be seen as a blemish on the culture. I see the unsolicited corporate pandering in a lower-class movement as askew, also. It's really just about lower-class people expressing excitement about their capacity to move up the class-ladder, which, depending on your perspective, can be seen as reasonable, pathetic or reasonably pathetic.
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Said it better than me.Kimosabae said:
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Shut up you lol, I accidentally said gucci, because that's mainly how this discussion started lol and that Gucci Gucci song was stuck in my head.Grzi said:
OttomanScribe said:
ottamanscribe: totally on point and agreed. hiphop to me is what it is to me. it's an artform that expresses itself in many ways. some of them i'm down with, some of them i'm not. it is and will be interpreted by a bunch of different people in a bunch of different ways. that's the nature of art - and dare i say it in this context - the nature of POETRY.
kimosabe: thanks for giving me a little bit of back, here.
i come from a certain place and a certain lifestyle. there are things about "rap" that i despise, and i think i've made them mostly known here..don't want to fuck with yall and your enjoyment of the music TOO much. maybe just a lil bit.
fact is that i'm personal friends with a bunch of kids who have quit their dayjobs (bagging groceries, washing dishes, flipping burgers) to spend all of their time writing rhymes and touring america with em, and making enough money with it to do JUST THAT THING. and if you were to look any of these motherfuckers in the eye and talk about gucci or shirts or fashion whatsoever they would laugh in your face.
just where i'm comin from. peace and love.
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keep your strippers out of my American football
coldvein said:
That's nice. I have friends who are buying new cars every 3 months, touring the world by rapping about what they have and what you don't. Doesn't make my opinion any less or more valid than yours.
Rap and hip-hop is made up of a shitload of flavors. One day fans of those flavors are going to stop hating on each other and realize it's music. This thread is sooooo much better when people are shitting on each other's opinions. It is one thing to say, "I like this, don't like this" but when you go on a campaign against a style, then it becomes lame as hell. Calling a style of rap "Anti-Hip Hop" is a fucking joke too.
I guess you were hating on Run DMC when they did 'My Adidas' too, huh?
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I'm confused really. How do we disagree? I just said I'm not disagreeing with you and even if we were, you just agreed with me by saying it's part of the culture lol.coldvein said:
I don't really care what hip hop is to you honestly, I'm just letting you know that fashion has been a big part of the culture for a very long time. Whether or not you accept that is up to you really.
Knux-Future
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enzo_gt said:
It's not even a bad song (soft as fuck though) but man it's out of place on an CD called Hell the sequel.
Em should saved it for His or Royce's solo album. That shit has hit written all over it.
lol.
(not specific to Lighters butReconYoda said:
Hearing Royce rhyme about introspective or emotional stuff is just weird, it doesn't suit him very well at all. Same with Em sometimes, because the really emotional lyrics are delivered with an angry tone. And it just sounds weird. This is different from when he delivers frustrated emotions with an angry though, just to be clear.Usually it's a joke, but there is validity to something sounding way soft for your tastes, like if Too $hort started rhyming on some Drake wine-and-dine shit. That shit would be negatively soft.
Knux-Future
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Joey fucking spazzed on Loud Noises...
jesus christ.
also Yoda, I was joking about the soft remark...it's almost a meme in here.
jesus christ.
also Yoda, I was joking about the soft remark...it's almost a meme in here.
enzo_gt said:(not specific to Lighters but
Usually it's a joke, but there is validity to something sounding way soft for your tastes, like if Too $hort started rhyming on some Drake wine-and-dine shit. That shit would be negatively soft.
Oh i know, but em isnt a stranger to introspective rhymes. Its just Royce gets so much shit about talking about his dick or gun, and when he doesnt, someone calls him out on it. I just hate calling out someone as soft, when i think its such a bullshit label for music. Saying he was out of his range makes more sense to me.
Knux-Future said:
I know, im pretty much a regular in Gaf-Hop, i just dislike it because its such a easy insult and doesnt make sense half the time(except for Wiz).
I would say that Lighters is way out of place on this album though. The tone throughout this album just doesnt gel with Lighters.
Edit: Lmao @Royce joking about always talking about his Big Dick, its like he reads gaf. " Did i almost go four bars without talking about my big dick"...lol.
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