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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol

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What's wrong, it was amazing I think.

I'm surprised by this, I didn't really think there'd be many people with strong feelings about that album. It wasn't bad or anything, I mean I listened to it about 4 times I think, but it just seemed bland.

Edit: Also should say I was pretty excited to listen to it the first time because I'd "discovered" Jay ROck through his verse on Money Trees, which was outrageous. But my predominant reaction was disappointment. There was nothing approaching that level on the album, although it didn't do anything strikingly bad.
 

Fjordson

Member
Wtf @ the 90059 track past the first minute or so...

Jay Rock is a boring ass artist that sounds amazing on features and great production where he doesn't have to come up with a concept himself or be forced to try and make the song himself ie structure the song or come up with an enticing hook. I always hoped this wasn't the case, but he's about as interesting and charismatic as Troy Ave. He'll never be the west coast version of Gibbs that everyone wants. Enzo wasn't even too off base about Follow Me Home, it's such a boring ass album and this new one doesn't seem to much more exciting judging by just how straightforward and vanilla all of the concepts are. Give Rashad the push he deserves and bench this old ass Charles Oakley equivalent.
Lmao @ Charles Oakley.

I like Rock a little more, but I agree about Rashad getting some spotlight.
 

Tokubetsu

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Nibel

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*Listens to the first few minutes of 90059*

'Damn, GAF-Hop exaggerating as always; this is dooope'

*Hears the hook and the real 90059 track*

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TDE needs a QA department
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
*Listens to the first few minutes of 90059*

'Damn, GAF-Hop exaggerating as always; this is dooope'

*Hears the hook and the real 90059 track*

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TDE needs a QA department

lol I think everybody had that same reaction. And ODB is my favorite member of the Wu. Without the hook and tempo change up so often, the song would be pretty decent. That "hook" experiment needed more time in the lab. That beat is my shit though.
 

Ray Wonder

Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I told yall Mac was dope, yall ain't wanna listen.

I feel the power of a thousand Stans flowing through me.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
Just got around to listening to that scarface song by jaden.

Hes clearly ahead of his time but im worried the haters will prevail.
 

HiResDes

Member
Dealing in hype seems pretty worthless to me these days. It doesn't make the release any more special by trying to bring it into your library as some Savior album. Just let the music trickle and focus on what's out.

I feel you Des, when I do find something I like it's hard to even want to talk about it on gaf anymore. In terms of finding music I've ended up going to the source for a lot of things now too.

Will probably take a lengthy ban soon, there's just too much drama to wade through these days. Need some better way to keep up with y'all without talking the L of the day.
Don't leave again man just cut down on time if you want.
 

RP912

Banned
The thing with Jay's new song is the fact that it's not bad, but that chorus don't match at all. It's like if Kendrick Lamar started rapping like 2 Short...nevermind that would be dope, but still....dude should have known better than to be sounding like ODB and failing hard at it.
 
Part of me can't help but be kinda excited for Jay Rock. Maybe I'm missin' California too much, maybe I just have shitty taste...*shrug* I do kinda agree with Des despite myself. Rock is more fun as a feature killer. I think he could put out something good, but man you trying to get people hyped and you drop that turd?

Like I said, I hope it's like Kendrick's i where the single version sounds like shit and the real version is much better.
But probably not.
I did enjoy the other singles though
 
I'm just saying you can't pretend to be upset when somebody doesn't give whatever Soundcloud substar 14 album listens before moving on to the next one if you're shitting on an album in advance. That ain't having an open mind. The rules don't change because people have actually heard of Jay Rock. Maybe the record will suck, maybe it won't. But if you're already going into it with "this is going to be shit" in your mind, then of course you'll come back with half a dozen recycle bin .gifs.

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AJLma

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Jay Rock comes off as the guy going way out of his way to project himself as the 1 dimensional "gangster" of the group when really that shit isn't even marketable these days. I'm gonna assume that's why his projects always sound like such a creative struggle compared to the rest of TDE.
 
There's a shred of truth in Des' point. Like Game, Jay Rock is one of those west coast rappers who doesn't have the melody or knack for songwriting like more versatile artists like Quik/Del/Snoop/Kendrick/etc. Still I feel like he has such great access to dope song shit - great beats, good in-house features, etc - that he should be able to make a dope project. Follow Me Home has a variety of flaws IMO but it showed more than enough promise to get me excited about him as a rapper.

Rock is going to have access to the best production he's ever had. He has SZA, Kendrick, and Q for hooks. He's had years to find himself as an artist. I'm going to assume he can do something dope with all that shit.
 

RP912

Banned
Fuck it I'm hyped for Rock's album. Despite the shitty chorus, all the tracks that came out even the snippet were certified bangers. Fresh change over Follow Me Home which I actually liked....

I guess I'm a TDE stan and proud to admit it.
 

enzo_gt

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There's a shred of truth in Des' point. Like Game, Jay Rock is one of those west coast rappers who doesn't have the melody or knack for songwriting like more versatile artists like Quik/Del/Snoop/Kendrick/etc. Still I feel like he has such great access to dope song shit - great beats, good in-house features, etc - that he should be able to make a dope project. Follow Me Home has a variety of flaws IMO but it showed more than enough promise to get me excited about him as a rapper.

Rock is going to have access to the best production he's ever had. He has SZA, Kendrick, and Q for hooks. He's had years to find himself as an artist. I'm going to assume he can do something dope with all that shit.
Everything about this post is wrong, goddamn it really is an intangible, blind faith for Rock, huh? Dude is so completely unremarkable in every sense of the word that it really is baffling to me.

He does not occupy a unique lane so effectively nothing is missing when he's gone (and Game does everything he does monumentally better, even at his worst as mentioned prior), the coast is the strongest it's been in a minute so it's not like we need him as a portion of that, the notion that he's a feature killer is super laughable as it implies dude does that on a consistent basis (let us pray one time for the GKMC babies), has a mediocre to bad track record to boot.

Des is right, y'all might as well be giving Troy Ave this shot with the benefit of the doubt given to Rock, at least Troy Ave has some character even if it's being a cornball. Y'all better be coddling Skeme, Nipsey, and all of those other ultra generic generic West Coast dudes who can semi-rap but lack pretty much every other part of the package (most importantly output) because nothing sets dude apart from those West Coast weirdos. Either that or nobody tells me a cosign doesn't mean shit again.
 

RP912

Banned
I don't see the Game=/=Jay Rock comparison and I damn sure don't see him as the west coast Troy Ave.

Rock is one of those rappers that would have been the shit in late 90s/early 2000s because folks really could go for some gangsta shit. Nowadays, he's considered average at best when in reality dude is really a dope rapper. He kills his features on every song and even the highlight of TDE posse cuts. I know his new album will bang and will probably be a solid 7, if not a 8.
 

Courage

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Des is right, y'all might as well be giving Troy Ave this shot with the benefit of the doubt given to Rock, at least Troy Ave has some character even if it's being a cornball.

why the fuck would I wanna give a cornball the benefit of the doubt exactly, when he's shit musically? Because he has ''''character''''? You make zero sense.

You're also underestimating Jay Rock tremendously. I don't think he's that great really, I don't even like Follow Me Home, but with all of these under his belt, he's a god in front of the wastemen you're referring to.
 
why the fuck would I wanna give a cornball the benefit of the doubt exactly, when he's shit musically? Because he has ''''character''''? You make zero sense.

You're also underestimating Jay Rock tremendously. I don't think he's that great really, I don't even like Follow Me Home, but with all of these under his belt, he's a god in front of the wastemen you're referring to.

Stop talking sense. You know it's Classic or bust round here.
 

Esch

Banned
A hypothetical version of The Game where I don't have to be subjected to the bizarre combination of meta-rapping. dick riding, and general you're-knocking-on-40-years-old-still-acting-like-a-gangster seems like a net positive.
 

Fevaweva

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Just finished Compton. Late to the party I know...Its alright. I find it over-produced...with the beat being filled with stuff going on and about 3 people doing almost every chorus - some with autotune, some without . I just don't enjoy it.

Plus,. Dr. Dre is almost unrecognisable. Which is disappointing as I think he has a great voice for rap music.
 
Just finished Compton. Late to the party I know...Its alright. I find it over-produced...with the beat being filled with stuff going on and about 3 people doing almost every chorus - some with autotune, some without . I just don't enjoy it.

Plus,. Dr. Dre is almost unrecognisable. Which is disappointing as I think he has a great voice for rap music.
Yeah I think I need someone to tell me who Dre is on those tracks. It is a very difficult process and the critical reception towards the album is bewildering.
 

RP912

Banned
No lie Dre needs to stop messing around with this vocal arrangements. Dude going to fuck around and sound like Jigsaw on the next feature.
 

Fjordson

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Man, y'all should PM me albums if you don't like posting them anymore. I genuinely listen to almost everything people link / recommend in here, found countless good albums that way.
 

T Dollarz

Member
So seeing Straight Outta Compton yesterday got me feeling pretty nostalgic for hip hop. Just impulse bought a $100 Audio Technica turntable off Amazon and I bought XXX with it.

I'm officially in the game, brehs.
 

HiResDes

Member
Yo if the prelude to Key's album is that fire the album gonna be crazy, I mean sleeper album of the year possibly. I love Sir Michael, but I might be even more excited for this new Key!
 
Jay Rock comes off as the guy going way out of his way to project himself as the 1 dimensional "gangster" of the group when really that shit isn't even marketable these days. I'm gonna assume that's why his projects always sound like such a creative struggle compared to the rest of TDE.

His albums are still varied, not all of it is gangster tracks. The appeal to me is that he isn't going for what the current market is. That means he makes music that he wants and not forced just to make money.
 
Speaking of Game, Documentary 2 drops next week.

Over/under on the number of stolen flows and name drops on the CD?

50 50 Cent name drops
all subliminal

Plus,. Dr. Dre is almost unrecognisable. Which is disappointing as I think he has a great voice for rap music.

it's because a lot of his stuff is written by other people so he's having to adapt to their flows

Man, y'all should PM me albums if you don't like posting them anymore. I genuinely listen to almost everything people link / recommend in here, found countless good albums that way.

same
need those HRD quarterly rap-ups to never end
 
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