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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol

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Syntsui said:
Too much competition right now, I listened to it for a while but there's too much going on. Now it's all about Thugga and Keef.

As Nibel asked, yes, there's way too much trap, but since I'm in the mood for it I feel blessed. 2014 was trash, Cilvia Demo and Mastermind are the only keepers for me.

Edit: I fucked with Piñata and RTJ2 too, but I didn't listen to them that much this year.
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re: bolded - PREACH.

2015 blessing me in ways that feel like a direct course correction to 2014.
 
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Ninja Dom

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Nibel said:
Just a general question: how does everybody feel about the current music output right now compared to how they felt in 2014? Do you enjoy the current released albums or are still hungry for more/something else? Too much trap?
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I'm waiting for my guy French. Him and Harry Fraud gave us an appetiser for the final Mac & Cheese album. That was last December. That shit was so good. But he's not blessed us this year with that. And he drops Fraud for his mainline releases and goes with another producer.

French Montana + Harry Fraud (+ Max B) = Very Best French Montana.

Shame he doesn't seem to realise that.
 
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Esch

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Nibel said:
Just a general question: how does everybody feel about the current music output right now compared to how they felt in 2014? Do you enjoy the current released albums or are still hungry for more/something else? Too much trap?
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I think it's actually been a very solid mix of things overall. Sorta lacking a really outstanding album, but a high volume of 7s-8s for me which isn't a bad thing either.
 
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Fjordson

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Where's the highest quality Slime Season link out right now? Also, Storm hook me up with that 320 Black Dollar breh.

Nibel said:
Just a general question: how does everybody feel about the current music output right now compared to how they felt in 2014? Do you enjoy the current released albums or are still hungry for more/something else? Too much trap?
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2014 was a good year, especially at the top (Pinata, RTJ 2, Cilvia, etc.) but I think this year is ending up better imo. Really a variety of projects in different lanes that have delivered for me.
 
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Esch said:
only MGS we acknowledge is 1-3
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yup

injurai said:
mgs4 > 2
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nope

Cheddahz said:
MGR > MGS 1-5
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man what
rising was great for what it was, but MGS3 stays in the top 10
 
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Courage

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An interesting piece by Vice that mirrors a lot of what has been said in the thread:

DRAKE AND FUTURE'S NEW MIXTAPE IS THE HIGH-WATER MARK OF "SOUND BITE RAP"

There’s merit scattered through the remaining tracks too, but you’d think that 2015’s rap overlords would be able to egg each other into dangerous and exciting new places once they finally linked up in the studio. Instead, and probably thanks to the extensive Metro Boomin production credits, it often just sounds like Drake’s just been tossed a feature on a new Future song. The only respite is “30 for 30 Freestyle” which finds Drake at his Drake-est, probably thanks to the familiar and comfortable embrace of Noah ‘40’ Shebib on beat making. (He really indulges too, there’s one line that goes “I just came back from dinner where I ate some well-seared scallops that were to die for”.) Essentially, WATTBA is cubic zirconia when we were promised real diamonds.
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WATTBA is built upon lines - not verses, not bars, but lines - starting with the title, which I can confidently predict will be the most used Instagram'd caption of 2015. Drake and Future know that for their tape to be successful, for them to remain relevant in the constant nebulous and fickle internet conversation, they just need one line out of 11 tracks to be latched upon by the youth and imbibed with an intent and meaning it never really had in the first place. Here’s the secret behind their megasuccess: these two realise that their songs don’t necessarily need to possess a coherent narrative or even make sense. Their audience has a contemporary approach to language that means their lyrics are going to be broken down and disseminated as they see fit; paired with incongruous images, strange vines, and subtweets. Through mediums like Twitter, new denotations of phrases are born; see “Hotline Bling” which has spawned a thousand tweets, videos and Instagram posts. Many of these are done in semi-ironic fashion but that’s inconsequential; people are engaging with the material, sharing and spreading it. Meme is the dream.
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What A Time To Be Alive offers nothing revolutionary. Yet it’s guaranteed to dominate popular culture for months to come thanks to Drake and Future’s innate perception of how we interact with rap and language in 2015 - short attentions spans equal a need for soundbites we can instantly absorb and repeat ad nauseam across social media, building a vast and flexible understanding of a singular phrase that means something to everyone. Why create cohesive, complete projects when you’ve got an audience who are just going to repurpose your work for their own means anyway? Focus on producing open source, accessible heavyweights that are sure to be latched upon. It’s a winning strategy, and Drake should make good on his promise to take Quentin to Follies - he’s certainly earned it.
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I think Drake focuses on the hashtag/meme aspect of his raps more than Future tbh. IYRTITL also felt like that. Whether or not Views will deliver something more substantial or different is still unclear (I'd argue probably not). But as of now whatever Drake does seems like an attempt to maintain his popularity, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does play into the idea of him turning more into a 'manufactured popstar' than a rapper building a meaningful catalog, to put it bluntly.
 
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Kyzer

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Courage said:
An interesting piece by Vice that mirrors a lot of what has been said in the thread:

DRAKE AND FUTURE'S NEW MIXTAPE IS THE HIGH-WATER MARK OF "SOUND BITE RAP"






I think Drake focuses on the hashtag/meme aspect of his raps more than Future tbh. IYRTITL also felt like that. Whether or not Views will deliver something more substantial or different is still unclear (I'd argue probably not). But as of now whatever Drake does seems like an attempt to maintain his popularity, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does play into the idea of him turning more into a 'manufactured popstar' than a rapper building a meaningful catalog, to put it bluntly.
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Interesting. I see it in Future too though. They both come up with sayings for every song. Future's hooks are always something like that
 
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Courage

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Kyzer said:
Interesting. I see it in Future too though. They both come up with sayings for every song. Future's hooks are always something like that
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It's harder to put Future on the same level, when he's released 3 free mixtapes for his fans in the past few months. I'm sure he strives for mainstream success, or else he wouldn't be on WATTBA, but Drake feels more calculated in that regard, considering his status in the game right now.
 
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I've never heard the phrase meme-rap outside of 4chan and even that was used towards young lean / hopsin. Weird shot to take at Drake / Future even if I know exactly what they mean. WATTBA might be a throw away record in the sense that people won't be bumping it after 6 months but I wasn't expecting more.

Essentially, WATTBA is cubic zirconia when we were promised real diamonds
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This doesn't even make sense. If you were expecting something other than bangers and hooks off this project you clearly don't follow either of the music these two dudes make.
 
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richardhawk said:
I've never heard the phrase meme-rap outside of 4chan and even that was used towards young lean / hopsin. Weird shot to take at Drake / Future even if I know exactly what they mean. WATTBA might be a throw away record in the sense that people won't be bumping it after 6 months but I wasn't expecting more.



This doesn't even make sense. If you were expecting something other than bangers and hooks off this project you clearly don't follow either of the music these two dudes make.
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I don't agree with that part either. I got what I fully expected, but it still makes me think about where Drake goes next.
 
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I'll be honest. I like how different and playful Drake's flow got since NWTS and consequently IYRTITL (which was on heavy rotation), but after WATTBA I wouldn't want another album/tape like that. On the other hand I'm also tired of the typical Drake song about his ex-girlfriends or family becoming estranged on low-passed 40 beats. I'm kinda getting tired, so I really don't know what to expect of Views.
 
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Courage said:
An interesting piece by Vice that mirrors a lot of what has been said in the thread:
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hard to argue this with all the diamond emojis thrown around last night, yeah

But as of now whatever Drake does seems like an attempt to maintain his popularity, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does play into the idea of him turning more into a 'manufactured popstar' than a rapper building a meaningful catalog, to put it bluntly.
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yeah, i was thinking about this recently too - like, Drake's albums very from good to great for the most part, but Take Care is about the closest thing to a classic he's put out and while great, it's still not that. but it doesnt feel (especially lately) like he's after that as much - he knows he's not gonna be regarded like others in kdot's lane, and there's tons of me-too's waiting to hop on his spot (almost like Ma$e years back), so milking his lane - calculated is indeed a better word here - seems to make sense
 
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Courage said:
An interesting piece by Vice that mirrors a lot of what has been said in the thread:

DRAKE AND FUTURE'S NEW MIXTAPE IS THE HIGH-WATER MARK OF "SOUND BITE RAP"






I think Drake focuses on the hashtag/meme aspect of his raps more than Future tbh. IYRTITL also felt like that. Whether or not Views will deliver something more substantial or different is still unclear (I'd argue probably not). But as of now whatever Drake does seems like an attempt to maintain his popularity, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does play into the idea of him turning more into a 'manufactured popstar' than a rapper building a meaningful catalog, to put it bluntly.
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Social media is a powerful element, and Drake's meteoric success is due to "one-liner" aspect of his raps.

Buuuut, you can have all that, and still build a compelling narrative around the sound bite. Or even a narrative, period. That kind of stuff subsists longer in the consciousness and won't be vacated the very exact second the next hashtag phrase comes along.
 
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Take Care is a classic tho

Courage said:
I don't agree with that part either. I got what I fully expected, but it still makes me think about where Drake goes next.
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That's kinda where I'm at. There hasn't been a new Drake album since 2013, so all of the analysis about this tape (or even If You're Reading This) could be completely out of date in a few months (or whenever Views drops).

I loved If You're Reading This, but I'm hoping he goes back towards Nothing Was the Same / Take Care. Not necessarily the same sound, but I'm hoping it's not just a bunch aggressive / bangers like What a Time (outside of 30 for 30) and most of If You're Reading This. Want some variety.
 
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Courage said:
An interesting piece by Vice that mirrors a lot of what has been said in the thread:

DRAKE AND FUTURE'S NEW MIXTAPE IS THE HIGH-WATER MARK OF "SOUND BITE RAP"






I think Drake focuses on the hashtag/meme aspect of his raps more than Future tbh. IYRTITL also felt like that. Whether or not Views will deliver something more substantial or different is still unclear (I'd argue probably not). But as of now whatever Drake does seems like an attempt to maintain his popularity, which isn't a bad thing per se, but it does play into the idea of him turning more into a 'manufactured popstar' than a rapper building a meaningful catalog, to put it bluntly.
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Be mad that something made in a week is more focused on bangers and fun than substance brehs.

That said his 2015 output is easily the best of his career. Same with Future post Honest output.
 
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enzo_gt

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At this point I'm inclined to believe Drake is caught in some label/political fuckery and is biding his time before putting out Views. If it doesn't hit on Friday, then I don't think it's coming anytime soon either.
 
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PBY

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enzo_gt said:
At this point I'm inclined to believe Drake is caught in some label/political fuckery and is biding his time before putting out Views. If it doesn't hit on Friday, then I don't think it's coming anytime soon either.
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You mean the Friday before halloween?
 
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Psychological Intellect

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enzo_gt said:
Sorry, mean Thursday. His website had a blog post simply saying Sept 24th a couple months ago.
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All "indications" point to Halloween.


Plastic Bag/Jumpman/Scholarships/Diamonds Dancing/Change Locations are definitely being saved in my Hype playlist on Spotify.really fun songs.

More than I ask for from a Drake/Future project, not sure what people expected.
 
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Courage

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I think he mentioned Halloween because they're 'Octobers Very Own'.

I suspect Views is a spring/summer 16 release at this point.
 
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