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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol

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BDK is great but him wasting his prime to play the goofy dark chocolate lover role is one of the worst style shift decisions of a HoF rapper ever. Even PhoenixDark probably can't run through those albums without cringing.

And the supposed comeback albums after that wack shit weren't really that good either.

But Daddy's Home had Show and Prove though
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Rakim will never forgive Nas for that autobiography song. Also I've heard Nas was somewhat recently kinda cool with Eric B which is a no no for Rakim.

Rumor is that Eric B got caught touching one of Rakim's kids. I've heard that shit so many times by different people I kinda believe it. It's also why Eric B fell off the face of the earth after the breakup. Granted he was never the producer (Large Professor and Rakim produced most of the songs) but at one point he was a semi popular DJ.
 

overcast

Member
Saying Iverson is better than Jordan is probably the most factually incorrect thing that's been said in this thread. Absolutely haram.
 

overcast

Member
I actually laughed at that Troy Ave cover.

I wonder if he is counting that money before splitting one of those singles in half for a bum.
 

RP912

Banned
When we are talking about KRS>>>

Are we focusing on his BDP days or including his batshit "hip hop is religion" days too.
 

Esch

Banned
That's a better list than mine, but I actually like Slick Rick's soft shit more than I probably should.

Nah I just don't think his discog is that good overall. One classic album, one good album, then...

When we are talking about KRS>>>

Are we focusing on his BDP days or including his batshit "hip hop is religion" days too.

Criminal Minded
Return of the Boom Bap
Edutainment
Sex and Violence
By All Means Necessary

Tbh whole discography is flames up until the s/t.
 

Koozek

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Personally I think out of the old school cats I'd have to go:

Kool G. Rap > KRS-One > Rakim > Slick Rick >Big Daddy Kane

See, I couldn't even tell Kool G. Crap, KRS-None, Nahkim and Big Daddy Lame apart
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I've always liked Slick Rick, though, because of Street Talkin feat. OutKast and Da Art Of Storytellin', one of my all-time favorite songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZJGMzAZkxI

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjax2h_slick-rick-feat-outkast-street-talkin-d4b1_music
 
Esch is right as usual. Just about every 80s rapper fell off in the 90s but Kane took it a step farther by embarrassing himself and the fans. It's one thing to wake up one day and not be good/great anymore; time passes us all by. It's like watching Jordan in a Wizards jersey. You could still see flashes of skill but overall you saw an old, slow man getting crossed over by dudes who probably work at McDonalds now. It was hard to watch but ultimately you realized he was about to retire again so no hard feelings. From a musical perspective this could apply to guys like...KRS. He's not good today but I understand his time has passed and thus don't feel some type of way about it.

But Kane's fall from grace was more Jackson than Jordan. Imagine realizing that your childhood hero would probably try to give you a glass of Manischewitz and suck your dick. The threat of wack wine and imminent sexual assault has to make you think differently about the king of pop. Kane wasn't banging kids but I definitely felt assaulted when I saw a chocolate brother embarrassing us on a national stage. Imagine the smoothest, coolest rapper of the 80s (note: I know some would pick Slick Rick but I'll go with Kane) turning into your corny ass uncle, macking on single moms at CVS.

Seriously brehs, imagine being a young dark prince in a world with few true heroes. Yea ya boy had Wesley Snipes, sometimes Theo from The Cosby Show was repping for us aite. But Kane was the king. And then you see this. Yea Denzel came through and crushed the building soon afterwards, and Wesley was still doing his thing. But to this day I can't put lotion on my legs without triggering memories of this video.
 

Esch

Banned
But Kane's fall from grace was more Jackson than Jordan. Imagine realizing that your childhood hero would probably try to give you a glass of Manischewitz and suck your dick. The threat of wack wine and imminent sexual assault has to make you think differently about the king of pop. Kane wasn't banging kids but I definitely felt assaulted when I saw a chocolate brother embarrassing us on a national stage. Imagine the smoothest, coolest rapper of the 80s (note: I know some would pick Slick Rick but I'll go with Kane) turning into your corny ass uncle, macking on single moms at CVS.

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The worst thing about it is that it by all accounts appears to have been a completely voluntary decision. Like he was really into that chocolate lover shyt b. Imagine if Drake/Kendrick/Cole was to put down his mic, throw away any dignity he might have had (for the love of god dont click this if you're at work), and then drop an album that sounds like a bizarre combination of current RnB trends, church karaoke, and some shit that Ike Turner probably sings in a bathroom to himself. You'd lose your shit right?



Just completely unprovoked. Even stuff like No Limit Top Dogg is kinda understandable cause he was trying to hitch his wagon to a star and we all understand trying to make money, but Kane's "sellout" didn't earn him any fans. I've never seen a single person who likes that shit. It's a testament to how good and loved Big Daddy Kane was that he's still regarded as a legend after pulling that shit. Just look at Jay-Z right here on the left.. You can see the respect for a legend in his eyes but there's a low key
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in there, watching one of his favorite rappers turn into an early 90's flabby version of Cameo.
 
Talib Kweli & 9th Wonder Featuring Rapsody - Every Ghetto

This shit aint hittin at all


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1. Which Side Are You On (Feat. Tef Poe and Kendra Ross) (Produced By Nottz)
2. Every Ghetto (Feat. Rapsody) (Produced By Hi-Tek)
3. Pay Ya Dues (Feat. Problem and Bad Lucc) (Produced By Eric G)
4. Lo-Fi (Feat. NIKO IS) (Produced By Khrysis)
5. Prego (Feat. Pharoahe Monch and Slug From Atmosphere) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
6. Life Ahead Of Me (Feat. Rapsody) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
7. Great Day In The Mourning (Feat. Add 2) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
8. Don’t Be Afraid (Feat. Rapsody, Problem and Bad Lucc) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
9. These Waters (Feat. K’Valentine, NIKO IS, Chris Rob and Jessica Care Moore) (Produced By Nottz)
10. King S*** (Feat. NIKO IS and GQ) (Produced By E. Jones)
11. Bangers (Feat. MK Asante and Halo) (Produced By Nottz)
12. Technicolor Easels (Feat. NIKO IS) (Produced By Khrysis)
13. Understand (Feat. Brother Ali and Planet Asia) (Produced By Khrysis)

Put your name on the billing of a project and only produce 4 tracks on it brehs
 

Dereck

Member
Talib Kweli & 9th Wonder Featuring Rapsody - Every Ghetto

This shit aint hittin at all


Edit-
1. Which Side Are You On (Feat. Tef Poe and Kendra Ross) (Produced By Nottz)
2. Every Ghetto (Feat. Rapsody) (Produced By Hi-Tek)
3. Pay Ya Dues (Feat. Problem and Bad Lucc) (Produced By Eric G)
4. Lo-Fi (Feat. NIKO IS) (Produced By Khrysis)
5. Prego (Feat. Pharoahe Monch and Slug From Atmosphere) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
6. Life Ahead Of Me (Feat. Rapsody) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
7. Great Day In The Mourning (Feat. Add 2) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
8. Don’t Be Afraid (Feat. Rapsody, Problem and Bad Lucc) (Produced By 9th Wonder)
9. These Waters (Feat. K’Valentine, NIKO IS, Chris Rob and Jessica Care Moore) (Produced By Nottz)
10. King S*** (Feat. NIKO IS and GQ) (Produced By E. Jones)
11. Bangers (Feat. MK Asante and Halo) (Produced By Nottz)
12. Technicolor Easels (Feat. NIKO IS) (Produced By Khrysis)
13. Understand (Feat. Brother Ali and Planet Asia) (Produced By Khrysis)

Put your name on the billing of a project and only produce 4 tracks on it brehs
Hahahaha, c'mon 9th Weaker
 

IrishNinja

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My personal favourite top ten albums:

Boy Meets World - Fashawn
Bayani - Blue Scholars
Dusty Foot Philosopher - K'naan

might check some of this later today


Rakim will never forgive Nas for that autobiography song. Also I've heard Nas was somewhat recently kinda cool with Eric B which is a no no for Rakim.

...was it really just that, though? i was reading how he kinda flipped his opinion on that track, or that he didn't like how nas (factually) pointed out that the aftermath thing fell apart. gotta wonder if ra just had a lingering opinion from whenever people were calling him saying this young dude is using your style, and then watching him surpass dude too.

i mean, look at that list. 2 groups and several struggles - he went way outta his way to leave son off

Rumor is that Eric B got caught touching one of Rakim's kids. I've heard that shit so many times by different people I kinda believe it. It's also why Eric B fell off the face of the earth after the breakup. Granted he was never the producer (Large Professor and Rakim produced most of the songs) but at one point he was a semi popular DJ.

...jesus christ, for real? id heard some details on pete & CL, but always wondered what happened here...totally fucked if true

(response to siddx)

another great post here, had to come to terms with a few of those (like scarface etc)

Big Daddy Kane>>>Rakim

ive heard this for a while & even skipping over the flab, i just can't see it if we're talking prime vs prime. you can totally see where both earned their legendary status but Kane's heights didn't have that impact, for me.

I mean, I kinda get why, but I just can't with the 80's sound.

18th letter isn't that, but for the older shit - this isn't Kool Moe Dee. if you can't appreciate some timeless shit off say Paid in Full then i don't know what to say

Juice (Know The Ledge) is one of the best hip-hop singles ever. Rakim going in, classic line after classic line, great great great beat, grimy video. A+++

I always loved that this song's title foreshadows the climax of the film

+1 so hard, that single got me to cop the OST, which i still think was my first legit hip hop purpose - found the cassette the other day too, haha. goddamn that song bangs
loved Follow the Leader in Who's the Man too

Ain't No Half Stepping is a GOAT single goddamn

no doubt

Personally I think out of the old school cats I'd have to go:

Kool G. Rap > KRS-One > Rakim > Slick Rick >Big Daddy Kane

KRS >>>> Rakim = G Rap > LL Cool J = Big Daddy Kane >>>>>>>> Slick Rick

feel like Rick is too low here, saw your later post but you gotta figure there's some Tyson shit here - he spent some of that prime locked up, can't help but feel we missed out on some quality
of course that prison time gave dude some unique perspective on life

Criminal Minded
Return of the Boom Bap
Edutainment
Sex and Violence
By All Means Necessary

Tbh whole discography is flames up until the s/t.

agreed, i'd add Keep Right myself but these are largely unfuckwithable

You know, I've never been too big a fan od Cool J even in his prime.

i tend to agree with the take that LL's a perfect candidate to cut his discog at a certain point and you'd have a solid top 10 candidate
Radio, Bigger & Deffer, Walking with a Panther etc...All World is one of my favorite Greatest Hits out there,even vol 2 is mostly solid

Seriously brehs, imagine being a young dark prince in a world with few true heroes. Yea ya boy had Wesley Snipes, sometimes Theo from The Cosby Show was repping for us aite. But Kane was the king. And then you see this. Yea Denzel came through and crushed the building soon afterwards, and Wesley was still doing his thing. But to this day I can't put lotion on my legs without triggering memories of this video.

...jesus
that intro alone

Talib Kweli & 9th Wonder Featuring Rapsody - Every Ghetto

This shit aint hittin at all

Put your name on the billing of a project and only produce 4 tracks on it brehs

haha, classic - got some Pharoe, some Tek, Slug (if youre into that kinda thing)...it takes a lot to get me interested in a kweli project these days, and this ain't it
 
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The worst thing about it is that it by all accounts appears to have been a completely voluntary decision. Like he was really into that chocolate lover shyt b. Imagine if Drake/Kendrick/Cole was to put down his mic, throw away any dignity he might have had (for the love of god dont click this if you're at work), and then drop an album that sounds like a bizarre combination of current RnB trends, church karaoke, and some shit that Ike Turner probably sings in a bathroom to himself. You'd lose your shit right?



Just completely unprovoked. Even stuff like No Limit Top Dogg is kinda understandable cause he was trying to hitch his wagon to a star and we all understand trying to make money, but Kane's "sellout" didn't earn him any fans. I've never seen a single person who likes that shit. It's a testament to how good and loved Big Daddy Kane was that he's still regarded as a legend after pulling that shit. Just look at Jay-Z right here on the left.. You can see the respect for a legend in his eyes but there's a low key
scusthov.gif
in there, watching one of his favorite rappers turn into an early 90's flabby version of Cameo.

Yoooo you know who defends Kane...one of my brothers. His two favorite rappers are Common and Kane, and few rap discussions go by without him defending Electric Circus (which tbh isn't bad) or Kane's later albums. His argument is that every Kane album had ladies tracks but the regular rap tracks made up for them. Even on Taste Of Chocolate since it has at least 1 or 2 dope tracks. Shit is hilarious. He'll also argue Veterenz Day is dope.

Veterenz Day definitely has some dope tracks and is a "return to form" in a sense but overall...eh whatever. And I can't help but automatically remember this shit more than any individual song on that album...scust.
 

RP912

Banned
Mystikal- Unpredictable
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We finally close out 1997 with the second album from Mystikal entitled “Unpredictable”. The album title suits well, because album was better than I thought it was going to be when it was released. I remember getting the album from Columbia House (Spotify of the 90s). On first listen, it was hit and missed because I didn’t appreciate what Mystikal was doing on the album. It was too all over the place and loud as hell, which was something that I wasn’t used to in hip hop around the time. However, going back to Unpredictable…I was shocked at how much I slept on this album. It reminds me of a scene on the movie Mr. Hollands Opus, where Richard Dreyfuss made a comparison of John Coltrane’s A Love Supreme towards his unborn son. He hated it at first, but appreciate the fact that he was going to be a father=/=he soon loved the album for what it was worth.

This example is what I experienced with Unpredictable, minus the unborn son comparison. It’s over the top, lyrical and original. I’m dead serious, I didn’t know this album was that good. I am a sucker for originally and appreciate Mystikal’s loud and unorthodox style. Plus, Beats by the Pound went nuts on this album. I swear Mystikal and BBTP have this unique chemistry that reminds me of Nas and DJ Premier. It’s a match made in heaven to hear Mystikal’s brass rhymes over southern flavored beats by DJ KLC, Craig B, Odell, and Mo B Dick. Tracks like the opening “Born 2 Be a Soldier” sets the mood off right of this album. Other tracks like “Murder 2”, “13 Years”, the single “Ain’t No Limit”, and “The Man Right Chea” gives the listener a walkthrough of the mind of Mystikal from his grievance of his sister’s death, to the struggle of becoming a well-known MC. The No Limit army makes an appearance on the album, but Mystikal still holds his own throughout the album. Also, well known artists are featured on Unpredictable such as E-40, B-legit, and the newest addition to the No Limit army…Snoop Dogg. Yes the Snoop Dogg. Doggystyle, Doggfather, Snoop Doggy Dogg Death Row Dogg. More on that subject when I get to that album soon ;).

Bottom line, this is a must listen for any hip hop fan. Trust me, once you get over the weird style that Mystikal demonstrates, you will understand why this album will get a….

Overall Score: 10
 
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