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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol
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I'm trying to imagine a track with Kendrick, Thugga, and Quavo
kendrick would get washed.
irish w/ that high quality fan-fiction.
because it's good for business. filling up arenas/stadiums. bigger tours. single sales and airplay. rolling with TPAB caused them to leave a lot of money on the table.
IrishNinja
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yeah school administration's not great at cleaning the toilets either i bet
I mean we'd either get Kendrick on lean rapping like the next trap messiah
or we would get him rapping like "u" while Thug and Quavo carry him because the actavis hit too strong
PhoenixDark
Banned
kind of
I know TDE doesn't do what everyone does. But they've had "bangers" for awhile, simply on their own terms. All I'm saying is that Kendrick made his big experimental album, it's time to give fans what they want now. It's not just about the masses. You can't tell me a lot of Kendrick fans weren't disappointed with TPAB. They may not be vocal but still, there are a lot of them. When you're so far out of the lane of what "the sound" is you run the risk of becoming irrelevant. Hip hop has always been like that. I'm not saying Kendrick needs an album of trap bangers. GKMC isn't an album of trap bangers either.
Nor am I saying he needs GKMC 2, just that he can't sit by and watch fans flock elsewhere while he fucks around with Thundercat and Terrace Martin. If I had my way I'd love to see some type of experimentation with funk and trap. How could you take trap from sounding so fake/manufactured and liven it up with actual basslines instead of just 808s for instance. Or what if you did trap with harder drums. There are a lot of different ways to do it.
manipulate
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Basically my position on the matter.
Shit, i would love if Kendrick made more fun and lighthearted music again.
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
Pretty much; this is the difference between good and great artists IMO.
Yeah, that's a dope track. Still enjoy Section.80.Shit, i would love if Kendrick made more fun and lighthearted music again.
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
KillerMike
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Danny Brown - XXX or Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
richardhawk
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Good kid mad city.
IrishNinja
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i dunno PDs - there's lots of dudes who are known for being great MC's but don't end up being in the biggie/pac/nas/jay discussion because they didn't really want it like that...meth, mos, ghost, com etc did what they wanted (for better or worse) and can be argued didn't go as far as they could've.
look at kdot staying somewhat loyal to his shithouse team. he's certainly not limiting himself production-wise like some of the aforementioned greats, but as you keep pointing out? he's not really touring. he's not staggering releases with his teammates, ya'll often point out the lack of hype/general management...
common's got classics. he got badu'd, did electric circus on his own shit, and came back (with ye's help). he now basically does music he likes that resonates with the base he has that'll fuck with most anything he puts out, a la the roots...maybe that's a bit closer to how this story plays out.
look at kdot staying somewhat loyal to his shithouse team. he's certainly not limiting himself production-wise like some of the aforementioned greats, but as you keep pointing out? he's not really touring. he's not staggering releases with his teammates, ya'll often point out the lack of hype/general management...
common's got classics. he got badu'd, did electric circus on his own shit, and came back (with ye's help). he now basically does music he likes that resonates with the base he has that'll fuck with most anything he puts out, a la the roots...maybe that's a bit closer to how this story plays out.
PhoenixDark
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It's not about chasing the mainstream, it's about giving your fans what they want. Not saying he shouldn't experiment. Not saying he should do a song with Adele. I'm just saying when you do an arena show and 80% of the songs you play are from your old album because your new album doesn't really work in that setting*...you can't really continue in that direction.
*obviously I'm on record saying a lot of TPAB works live and in arenas, but that crowd was there for bangers and Kendrick might have two on TPAB.
*obviously I'm on record saying a lot of TPAB works live and in arenas, but that crowd was there for bangers and Kendrick might have two on TPAB.
Rastafarian42
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Shit, i would love if Kendrick made more fun and lighthearted music again.
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
This song made me a fan more than anything he released at the time the jazzy instrumentals never get old man.
PhoenixDark
Banned
glad you made it out of Mississippi alive, Esch. Shit is no joke down there, trust me.
Shit, i would love if Kendrick made more fun and lighthearted music again.
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
for real. it aint like people asking him to hop on that southside x metro x tm88 x zaytoven shit.
folk just want some shit you can do more than sit around to. some shit that's fun to listen to in the whip or in the company of other people.
IrishNinja
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Shit, i would love if Kendrick made more fun and lighthearted music again.
used to drive down the mississippi summer 2011 with this going
simultaneously agree with all these - and i totally expect a few tracks like that 80 one there on the next as well
fam, i meant the river
Anyway, songs like Hol' Up are why i love Section 80: there's a song on it for everything. some downtempo joints, some hype stuff, but it all fits together in a nice overarching style.
PhoenixDark
Banned
fam, i meant the river
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Just when I started feeling good about having a nice lil steak of not taking Ls recently. lmao
Great taste
Kendrick's catalog already has enough anthems and features for him to bum off of, and he's doing large venues already. Of course more bangers help, but he doesn't need them from his solos specifically, and he doesn't have a gap in his audience he needs to fill.
Doesn't make sense from the label perspective, and certainly makes less sense from Kendrick's perspective. The reason why he's popular and has exploded is because he's been contrasted to his contemporaries in this regard. Yeah, he can still go all Em and make the same song in different ways for the better part of a decade plus, and that would really suck because that means we'd pretty much know Kendrick's threshold for stopping giving a fuck, but I don't think he's there yet. He'll hit Lupe status before he hits that TBH.
Doesn't make sense from the label perspective, and certainly makes less sense from Kendrick's perspective. The reason why he's popular and has exploded is because he's been contrasted to his contemporaries in this regard. Yeah, he can still go all Em and make the same song in different ways for the better part of a decade plus, and that would really suck because that means we'd pretty much know Kendrick's threshold for stopping giving a fuck, but I don't think he's there yet. He'll hit Lupe status before he hits that TBH.
IrishNinja
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these are all good calls
im assuming jazz-hop stuff like nujabes doesnt count?
Hol' Up is one of the best songs Kendrick ever made. Fuck Your Ethnicity is a dope cut from that album, too. Lyrically and compositionally, Kendrick has always been consistent and versatile. He's no fluke.
I just can't see him switching up his style for lanes that are frankly already well represented.
I just can't see him switching up his style for lanes that are frankly already well represented.
silentcapybara
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You know what would be a good business move? If Kendrick and Cole released their collab album.
Both of them had a stellar year, their albums were praised by the critics (metacritic is my reference here),both of them moved a good number of units, Kendrick is doing that mini tour and releasing his videos sporadically / Cole just had the biggest tour of his life.
They probably don't have plans for anything big for the next couple of months, so why not capitalize on their momentum and release an album that is already finished? All the songs we listened so far are good and it would definitely make some good numbers.
Both of them had a stellar year, their albums were praised by the critics (metacritic is my reference here),both of them moved a good number of units, Kendrick is doing that mini tour and releasing his videos sporadically / Cole just had the biggest tour of his life.
They probably don't have plans for anything big for the next couple of months, so why not capitalize on their momentum and release an album that is already finished? All the songs we listened so far are good and it would definitely make some good numbers.
Yeah, I'd rather Kendrick do this for the mainstream and do whatever he wants for his solo stuff, even if it means more TPAB-esque music.
IrishNinja
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Rastafarian42
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Yeah now would be the time they've been talking about this since 2011 it's to make it a reality shit if Drake and Future can do one in a week why can't they do the same. If I remember correctly J.Cole's Dreamville label in jointed with Interscope.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Next album will be Kendrick's sgt.pepper.
So it's gonna take TPAB's experimentation to the nonsensical extreme resulting in unlistenable trash?
If I can fuck her in front of all of these passengers
They'll probably think I'm a terrorist, eat my asparagus
the woat kdot couplet
no lies detected
wild wild rice
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Here's a French dude beatboxing the history of hip hop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_2vmkTmf0
Best album of the decade's gotta be either Pinata or GKMC for me. Also, never listened to XXX, but apparently I should.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_2vmkTmf0
Best album of the decade's gotta be either Pinata or GKMC for me. Also, never listened to XXX, but apparently I should.
silentcapybara
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hol up
KillerMike
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I would count it, but I assumed we were going for 2010s rather than past 10 years, if not then Modal Soul would be a contender even if it's not quite as good as Metaphorical Music.
that line alone was at least 50% responsible for why GKMC was such a surprise.
Kendrick is in a weird position though. He had so much momentum behind him and when the control verse dropped it sounded like he was going for something that would be both critically acclaimed AND mainstream.
So while Kendrick did release two of the greatest albums of the decade, in terms of popularity he's getting stomped by guys he didn't even mention in his verse. (ex. Future)
So while Kendrick did release two of the greatest albums of the decade, in terms of popularity he's getting stomped by guys he didn't even mention in his verse. (ex. Future)
He's never been washed on a trap track so definitely not.
kendrick's also never been on a track w/ thug or quavo (or future w/ a verse instead of a hook).
ViewtifulJC
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Discotheque
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would like kendrick to make a song like this again with Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQZrMOt-1E
just something really stupid that bumps.
edit: backseat freestyle is probably his most bumpable song though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQZrMOt-1E
just something really stupid that bumps.
edit: backseat freestyle is probably his most bumpable song though.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
That Michael Jordan song is so bad. The vocals, production, ugh.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Kendrick is gonna take over the Detox reigns and release an album 100% produced by Dre, trusmedaddy
ViewtifulJC
Banned
RIP in peace PhoenixDark dat perma
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