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[The Return of]

I found an account on youtube with some good tutorials, but even the first lesson is for more advanced producers so I can't keep up. Is there a video in particular you could suggest to me that helped you personally?

Oh I use Reason, but here try these videos I've found. The First two should help you out

 

[DominoKid]

that Future/TNGHT thing was dope. it's weird to see HudMo getting shine because he's been at it for a while, especially for this wack shit. he can do much better than that.

 

[HiResDes]

First leak off Gensu Dean and Planet Asia’s upcoming collaborative album, Abrasions, which is due out February 26th via Mello Music Group

Gensu Dean & Planet Asia - Faces on the Dollar

K. Roosevelt – RoseGold (FreEP)


Ryan Hemsworth – ‘Colour & Movement’ (Video)

Brooke Candy – ‘Everybody Does’ (Video)

ST 2 Lettaz – ‘Trill 2 Da Bone’ (Video)

Erk Tha Jerk & D. Bledsoe – ‘Dreams’ Video

Roach Gigz – ‘Sick American’ (Video)

Raekwon’s Lost Jewelry EP Listening Session (Video)

King Wizard 3.4 million views on Vevo, Just What I Am has 4.3 million and my shit is not on regular rotation on radio. Hmmm. Trinidad James got 4.1 million views on his hit (rightfully so), and I hear that jam EVERYWHERE. Wheres my fuckin spins??? Im talkin numbers. Im talkin stats. To my label, I swear to all that is fuckin holy in this world, if things dont change soon, theres gonna be some problems. I worked too hard on all this shit. Producing, writing, directing AND executing the shit proper. I did my part, I put in work. Wtf. Yall kno I cuts no slack. Not w my music. Every song is my life. A piece of my fuckin tormented soul. It matters to me. I give a fuck. Done goin off and snappin my head side to side.

...Also Maino made a wack ass song dedicated to Molly over Scarface's Mary Jane beat.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Check your pms Des.

 

[Blackace]

"piece of my tormented soul."

-Kid Cudi


Wish he posted here so I could tag him

 

[DominoKid]

RE: today's cudi rant

dude just needs to shut the fuck up. the videos suck and the songs have no hit potential. make better shit.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

RE: today's cudi rant

dude just needs to shut the fuck up. the videos suck and the songs have no hit potential. make better shit.

Someone at his label needs to say exactly what this post says.

 

[DominoKid]

Someone at his label needs to say exactly what this post says.

he'd probably cry his eyes out or go on a coke binge.

i mean, i'm a cudi fan but shit, he can look back at his own old music to see why he had hits then and none now.

lol i'd love to see him leave the label and see how many hits he has then.

 

[WanderingWind]

Check your pms Des.

Little concerned that this came right after Des went back to talking about tonguing booty holes

EDIT: Yeah, Cudi, the problem is the label and not your spoken word bullshit. Nobody cares about your tormented soul, Sally.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Im still not a Cudi believer. What does he think that rant is really going to do tho? All hes gonna do is piss the label off and take longer to get what he wants.

 

[HiResDes]

He might be going for that Death Grips appeal to the indie crowd.

 

[DominoKid]

unless that rant magically makes more people like his songs, he's spitting in the wind.

also your avatar is free!

 

[WanderingWind]

Im still not a Cudi believer. What does he think that rant is really going to do tho? All hes gonna do is piss the label off and take longer to get what he wants.

If they don't just drop his ass. You think there aren't a million people who wouldn't want his access to beats and marketing budgets? Anybody could recite shitty poems over some of those beats and move his numbers - clearly. He needs to just shut up, stop Budden-ing himself and go ask Kanye for another track or two.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

About fucking time lol! Drakes face gonna haunt me tho...

Feels good looking at my name and not seeing mention of Drake or my anus.

Maccas a bad man.

 

[PBY]

New track, keeping experimenting with a few different styles. Might throw some wub wub on it eventually.
https://soundcloud.com/flightmuzik/pretty-city

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

New track, keeping experimenting with a few different styles. Might throw some wub wub on it eventually.
https://soundcloud.com/flightmuzik/pretty-city

This is dope. GAF-Hop needs to make a mixtape or an EP. Some talent in here. Hosted by Ace of course.

 

[Esch]

lmao the infamous gaf hop.mixtape

 

[mooooose]

What was the sample? French Montana would destroy this.

 

[PBY]

lmao the infamous gaf hop.mixtape

What was the sample? French Montana would destroy this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpwfVYlg_c

 

[WanderingWind]

Some of y'all just need some marketing rep to get paid.

 

[The Return of]

Dope beat peter and if there was any kind of Gaf-hop ep or mixtape in the works. I would prefer dropping it out of nowhere.

 

[PBY]

Dope beat peter and if there was any kind of Gaf-hop ep or mixtape in the works. I would prefer dropping it out of nowhere.

I agree that that sounds awesome- but how would that get made lol?

 

[HiResDes]

I do a mean French Montana impression, might have to go on this : )

 

[PBY]

I do a mean French Montana impression, might have to go on this : )

Do your thing man

 

[cacophony]

Some of y'all just need some marketing rep to get paid.

its fucking impossible to get your name out there now with such an over saturation of producers. ive been emailing a&r every day trying to get some placements.

btw any of you know of any nice labels a&r reps on twitter?

 

[WanderingWind]

its fucking impossible to get your name out there now with such an over saturation of producers. ive been emailing a&r every day trying to get some placements.

btw any of you know of any nice labels a&r reps on twitter?

You need to know more than that. You need a crew and proof samples and legit market muscle. The talent is here.

Let's organize and get y'all paid.

For instance, the mixtape? Really, why is this not a thing yet? Everybody has a soundcloud. Not too many people have full projects and the ability to sell that project on a professional level.

Shit is doable.

 

[PBY]

its fucking impossible to get your name out there now with such an over saturation of producers. ive been emailing a&r every day trying to get some placements.

btw any of you know of any nice labels a&r reps on twitter?

agreed. its real tough.

The best way, imho, is to spam D level rappers, im talking sub 20k followers on twitter, with beats and hope they blow up, taking u with them. I've gotten responses on twitter from a few rappers that way. The a&r game is brutal though.

 

[The Return of]

I agree that that sounds awesome- but how would that get made lol?

What do you mean? You mean how would that help the tape from being completed? It wouldn't really but it would stop people from being disappointed from everytime we act like we are going to do one. We would just talk about song ideas and such through emails and PM

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

You need to know more than that. You need a crew and proof samples and legit market muscle. The talent is here.

Let's organize and get y'all paid.

For instance, the mixtape? Really, why is this not a thing yet? Everybody has a soundcloud. Not too many people have full projects and the ability to sell that project on a professional level.

Shit is doable.

Thats what im saying. Mixtape needs to happen.

 

[PBY]

What do you mean? You mean how would that help the tape from being completed? It wouldn't really but it would stop people from being disappointed from everytime we act like we are going to do one. We would just talk about song ideas and such through emails and PM

See what you mean, definitely makes sense.

 

[WanderingWind]

I think I could probably help on that front. Can't do much without proof though.

 

[The Return of]

See what you mean, definitely makes sense.

ah, well that's what Siddx and I did. Worked out pretty great I'd say

 

[PBY]

ah, well that's what Siddx and I did. Worked out pretty great I'd say

aka track 2 of the gaf hop tape?

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

ah, well that's what Siddx and I did. Worked out pretty great I'd say

That track definitely did. Imagine a whole tape of shit like that with all the people in here producing and rapping. Shit be awesome. Ace could even drop those mixtape horns and shout "we the best!!!" every 20 seconds.

 

[WanderingWind]

Aight. I'm GafHOP's A&R now.

 

[The Return of]

aka track 2 of the gaf hop tape?

lol, I believe there will be something close enough to a gaf-hop tape someday

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Maccadonna on the cover art

 

[cacophony]

a Gafhop tape is not going to get any attention lol

 

[WanderingWind]

Maccadonna on the cover art

Ace, Peter and Caco on the production. The talent is all over the place on actual wordplay. Macca on art. I'll bring my marketing experience to bear.

The ingredients are there. We going to cook this meal or just talk about other peoples plates?

a Gafhop tape is not going to get any attention lol

You definitely wouldn't call it that, for starters. And have you seen some of the shit that gets by? You don't think you're a better producer than whoever does the filler beats for generic rap crew 10043?

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

a Gafhop tape is not going to get any attention lol

Make a viral video of you eating the mixtape CD.

 

[HiResDes]

a Gafhop tape is not going to get any attention lol

Of course you wouldn't call it that...Maybe like Booth Invasion, Hosted by DJ ACE. The cover would feature a DJ booth with a guy scratching a record shaped like a girl's ass and an MPC with jewels for buttons

 

[DominoKid]

agreed. its real tough.

The best way, imho, is to spam D level rappers, im talking sub 20k followers on twitter, with beats and hope they blow up, taking u with them. I've gotten responses on twitter from a few rappers that way. The a&r game is brutal though.

this sounds like a plan.

either that or get on w/ some local cats (idk where you live) and build your own movement from the ground up.

shit, mike will started out giving his beats away for free because you have to establish that track record. if a record blows up enough you'll get paid on the back end (see Plain Jane).

if nothing else you can try Lil B lol. he always needs new beats and a few of the newer cats (Clams, Beautiful Lou) have raised their profile from him.

 

[cacophony]

agreed. its real tough.

The best way, imho, is to spam D level rappers, im talking sub 20k followers on twitter, with beats and hope they blow up, taking u with them. I've gotten responses on twitter from a few rappers that way. The a&r game is brutal though.

lol bruh i sent beats (2 i made in 10 mins) to

Spoiler

kitty pryde

a while back.. no response. tough shit

lil b replied to my email but never used my beats lol

 

[enzo_gt]

The CuDi rant a few days ago where he was RTing people about how shit WZRD was was some pussy shit. Y'all know I'm a CuDi stan but he was straight up being immature about people not liking something SO DIFFERENT and SO TERRIBLE compared to what you built your fanbase on.

 

[PBY]

lol bruh i sent beats (2 i made in 10 mins) to

Spoiler

kitty pryde

a while back.. no response. tough shit

lil b replied to my email but never used my beats lol

It blows. Remember a dude who had like 5 seconds of miiiiiiinor minor internet blog shine a few years ago, called Marky? Sent him a ton of stuff, he might have used em later bc we went back and forth for a minute, but prob not because his flame burnt out super fast. Same thing has happened a few other dudes.

Honestly though, you're beats make way better of a first impression than mine (just bein honest), so who knows.

 

[Blackace]

Ace, Peter and Caco on the production. The talent is all over the place on actual wordplay. Macca on art. I'll bring my marketing experience to bear.

The ingredients are there. We going to cook this meal or just talk about other peoples plates?



You definitely wouldn't call it that, for starters. And have you seen some of the shit that gets by? You don't think you're a better producer than whoever does the filler beats for generic rap crew 10043?

Of course you wouldn't call it that...Maybe like Booth Invasion, Hosted by DJ ACE. The cover would feature a DJ booth with a guy scratching a record shaped like a girl's ass and an MPC with jewels for buttons

I am with all of this

One thing that could be super dope if some MCs are down is I could do a 15 to 20 min mix of some made instrumentals like my mix tapes and we spit verses on them

 

[The Return of]

this sounds like a plan.

either that or get on w/ some local cats (idk where you live) and build your own movement from the ground up.

shit, mike will started out giving his beats away for free because you have to establish that track record. if a record blows up enough you'll get paid on the back end (see Plain Jane).

if nothing else you can try Lil B lol. he always needs new beats and a few of the newer cats (Clams, Beautiful Lou) have raised their profile from him.

Man Peter lives in NY lol

 

[Blackace]

Also want to do something for datpiff again later this month

Should I do IS3?

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Also want to do something for datpiff again later this month

Should I do IS3?

Maybe mix it up with something different. Then hit em with IS3

 

[WanderingWind]

The game is about positioning and consistency in how you present yourself as an artist. Sending off beats to artists' Twitter's and all is great. It sometimes gets you noticed. But they don't hold the real power. The people who put the records together, they make a ton of those calls. And they don't listen to any fool who approaches them on the street.

If you have an actual professional product, you'll be ahead of most of the idiots hitting them up all the time.

1) Tape. Can't do shit without a proof source.
2) Web presence. Same as above, at least from the marketing aspect of it.
3) Time. Nothing will happen overnight, or the first, second or 12th time you try something. And yeah, you will often get one shot with anybody. Nobody has time for anybody who doesn't have their shit together.

Anyway, it's late and I've been working since 5am. I'm barely cogent at the moment.