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GAF-Hop |OT9/9/99| African Substitute Teachers Run NY

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siddx

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lol the idea of Bronson being mainstream is fucking hilarious. Dude will never be anything but an underground darling. You have to be the absolute worst judge of star potential to put any money on Bronson ever doing more than maaaaaaybe getting some attention for a good verse on a more popular rappers song, or getting that 5 minute buzz from the media thanks to his unique look and style.
 

PBY

Banned
Listened to every Ye album from start to finish yesterday and today.

I forgot how awesome this dude was/is. Even LR.

Goat.

It's also weird to see that while he's changed a lot lyrically in some senses, the overall themes actually are pretty consistent.
 

DominoKid

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Listened to every Ye album from start to finish yesterday and today.

I forgot how awesome this dude was/is. Even LR.

Goat.

It's also weird to see that while he's changed a lot lyrically in some senses, the overall themes actually are pretty consistent.

Ye has always stayed on message.
 

Gorillaz

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It always got me when people said Ye has gotten cocky and that he was humble during the CD and LR days. Like as if he was never like this before
 

PBY

Banned
It always got me when people said Ye has gotten cocky and that he was humble during the CD and LR days. Like as if he was never like this before
Yep.

Still very race conscious, a lot of fashion/materialism talk along the lines of new slaves.
 
Sitting at the Raptors game in box seats. Have a beautiful lady serving me some vodka and sprite
apple juice
and I'm going in on these chicken fingers.

Life's good brehs
 

thabiz

Member
Sitting at the Raptors game in box seats. Have a beautiful lady serving me some vodka and sprite
apple juice
and I'm going in on these chicken fingers.

Life's good brehs

love raptor games. they always keep you entertained. way better atmosphere than leaf games.
 

overcast

Member
Wait, Peter, what do you mean "even LR"? You aren't a huge fan of that album?

Count, you know you're about to be called out on eating those Tyson Chicken Finger's, right?
 

Esch

Banned
Wait, Peter, what do you mean "even LR"? You aren't a huge fan of that album?
ptrboi gon ptrboi

Count, you know you're about to be called out on eating those Tyson Chicken Finger's, right?
I aint mad at him. As long as theyre good. Tysons aint shit, but cane's?

raising-canes-chicken-fingers-box-01.JPG
 
Honestly last time I had Cane's which was a few months ago. I wasn't really feeling it, but that day a lot of shit was pissing me off so I don't thinK I was even tasting anything
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
lol the idea of Bronson being mainstream is fucking hilarious. Dude will never be anything but an underground darling. You have to be the absolute worst judge of star potential to put any money on Bronson ever doing more than maaaaaaybe getting some attention for a good verse on a more popular rappers song, or getting that 5 minute buzz from the media thanks to his unique look and style.

Idk for 2 reasons. First right now the underground has a lot of artist that I see as having potential to go mainstream, but for various reasons they don't have the right label/machine behind them. Action is a prime example of one of those dudes in my eyes. He is a character, he can actually rap, and he's made good music with a chick singing the hook. I've seen a whole Lotta artist pushed down the mainstreams throat with less going for them.

Also I feel Bronson is just tied to the new York sound. If/when that sound becomes more popular again (because shit can and does repeat itself) he will get more burn. Dude should be a NY media darling but NY media doesn't go out of its way to support local acts nor does it have as Much sway in NYC like it use to since most listeners just want to discuss gossip.

Shit this thread is a better hip hop media source than the NYC radio
 

PlayDat

Member
Gotta admit I do fucks with the Count's taste in food. I eat chicken fingers damn near daily. I've also totally been the dude eating chicken at Red Lobster. While everyone else was going in on turkey during Thanksgiving I was eating fish.

I do really need to widen my palette though. Only thing I really need to stay away from is dairy.
 

PBY

Banned
Gotta admit I do fucks with the Count's taste in food. I eat chicken fingers damn near daily. I've also totally been the dude eating chicken at Red Lobster. While everyone else was going in on turkey during Thanksgiving I was eating fish.

I do really need to widen my palette though. Only thing I really need to stay away from is dairy.

What the fuck man.

Yall make me feel old
 

PlayDat

Member
What the fuck man.

Life long picky eater. I don't fuck with condiments neither. I'm real boring when it comes to food. I like predictability.


I gotta agree with you on LR though. I'll definitely revisit it whenever I get around to finally listening to 808s and Graduation, but LR has to be my least favorite solo album out of what I've heard from Ye. It's very good but suffers from being so thematically similar to CD. Since CD did a lot of that stuff first I have to give it more credit.
 

PBY

Banned
Life long picky eater. I don't fuck with condiments neither. I'm real boring when it comes to food. I like predictability.


I gotta agree with you on LR though. I'll definitely revisit it whenever I get around to finally listening to 808s and Graduation, but LR has to be my least favorite solo album out of what I've heard from Ye. It's very good but suffers from being so thematically similar to CD. Since CD did a lot of that stuff first I have to give it more credit.

^Right there w/ you with my overall view on LR.

Also, predictable is cool, but you never worry about like health issues?
 

CRS

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Count doesn't have a taste in food. His palette is binary in that he tastes "freezer burn" and "no freezer burn".
 

PlayDat

Member
^Right there w/ you with my overall view on LR.

Also, predictable is cool, but you never worry about like health issues?

Despite eating garbage I'm actually the healthiest I've ever been in my life right now. In the past year I was diagnosed + started receiving treatment for Crohn's. That plus making a commitment to visiting the gym 3 times a week have had me feeling good lately. I know this diet probably won't sustain me for too long though.

Eating better probably would be much better for me health-wise in the long run also I'd be way more comfortable at social settings where food is involved.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Sex appeal is the only thing getting in the way of Bronson mainstream. Otherwise, dude's music, business acumen and appeal otherwise have him set up pretty damn good.
 

Esch

Banned
Sex appeal is the only thing getting in the way of Bronson mainstream. Otherwise, dude's music, business acumen and appeal otherwise have him set up pretty damn good.
You gotta be joking. He's gonna say some shit about rape/hookers/transgenders/gays and lose all his endorsements if he gets big. Hes already assaulted people on stage before. I like Bronson but some people just aren't meant to be in the public eye.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
You gotta be joking. He's gonna say some shit about rape/hookers/transgenders/gays and lose all his endorsements if he gets big. Hes already assaulted people on stage before. I like Bronson but some people just aren't meant to be in the public eye.
Worked for Em. When your entire schtick is portraying clearly unrealistic fantasies with no substance behind it, people will look past it. Not like he's *not* going to get flak for it, but as a roadblock for making it in the mainstream? Nah. With Bronson especially you can look past it because it's all more ridiculous than the dumb shit people like Wayne say.

Assaulting people shit just builds character, just like chef background. It's what makes Action Bronson the character appealing in the first place.

EDIT: Even compared to Em, Bronson's raps are more fantastic.
 

Recon

Banned
Worked for Em. When your entire schtick is portraying clearly unrealistic fantasies with no substance behind it, people will look past it. Not like he's *not* going to get flak for it, but as a roadblock for making it in the mainstream? Nah. With Bronson especially you can look past it because it's all more ridiculous than the dumb shit people like Wayne say.

Assaulting people shit just builds character, just like chef background. It's what makes Action Bronson the character appealing in the first place.

A fat ginger is not gonna make it like that.
 

PBY

Banned
Despite eating garbage I'm actually the healthiest I've ever been in my life right now. In the past year I was diagnosed + started receiving treatment for Crohn's. That plus making a commitment to visiting the gym 3 times a week have had me feeling good lately. I know this diet probably won't sustain me for too long though.

Eating better probably would be much better for me health-wise in the long run also I'd be way more comfortable at social settings where food is involved.

Oh word, nice. Gyming fixes a lot, get on dat bulk diet.
 
You guys are looking too hard into the Bronson thing. He's simply not gonna be mainstream as long as he still wants to rap over super grimy Alchemist type beats. Before even getting into his look, content, or general appeal, anyone with that mindset is not looking for mainstream attention.
 

overcast

Member
Action seems very content with being marginally successful and cooking. Hopefully he opens his own restaurant.

I can't seem him trying hard enough to make a hit. He's a fantastic character though.
 

mooooose

Member
bronson has sex appeal he can cook and look at his fuckin hair

i dont believe he and danny get signed to paul rosenberg and he doesnt want them to go mainstream
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
You guys are looking too hard into the Bronson thing. He's simply not gonna be mainstream as long as he still wants to rap over super grimy Alchemist type beats. Before even getting into his look, content, or general appeal, anyone with that mindset is not looking for mainstream attention.
I think he's outright said he doesn't care and will quit rapping as soon as he loses a bit of the creative control he has now. He seems to me like the dude who wouldn't just be saying that either, and he's definitely had more than one label deal thrown his way too.

This is just theoretical talk.
 
Bronson's look, charisma, and appeal could impress me if I was an A&R. However his inability to wirte a chorus to save his life, and the one note lane he puts himself in, would make me stay away.

Some guys audition for major labels. You can really tell Troy Ave is making his case right now. His album has dope production, some solid choruses and musical variety. Likewise a few years ago any A&R or label head could tell that Drake, Cole, Kendrick, etc were making a case for getting signed; all three had legit mixtape songs that sounded like they could get radio play.

Whereas when I listen to Bronson, Curren$y, Exquire, etc I hear dudes who have very little interest in constructing songs. They get a beat, rap over it, boom that's it. No chorus no nothing. I'm not knocking that, I love Bronson, Roc Marci, Curren$y and others who do this. The point is that they aren't marketable mainstream wise, and haven't demonstrated an ability to make a radio track. Bronson gets radio play on Hot97 but honestly that seems more of the station making a point ("we play NY rap if it fits a certain criteria"). Strictly 4 My Jeeps didn't sound like a radio song to me, the chorus is bad and the beat is a rip off.

Dudes need to realize that people go to shows to have fun. It's easier to have a dope live song if it has a simple chorus people can chant. Roc Marci has really put himself in a box IMO because his music simply wouldn't work live. Spitta, Bronson, etc all have live shows without choruses, I'm just saying they'd be liver with big records. Think CREAM.
 

PBY

Banned
Bronson's look, charisma, and appeal could impress me if I was an A&R. However his inability to wirte a chorus to save his life, and the one note lane he puts himself in, would make me stay away.

Some guys audition for major labels. You can really tell Troy Ave is making his case right now. His album has dope production, some solid choruses and musical variety. Likewise a few years ago any A&R or label head could tell that Drake, Cole, Kendrick, etc were making a case for getting signed; all three had legit mixtape songs that sounded like they could get radio play.

Whereas when I listen to Bronson, Curren$y, Exquire, etc I hear dudes who have very little interest in constructing songs. They get a beat, rap over it, boom that's it. No chorus no nothing. I'm not knocking that, I love Bronson, Roc Marci, Curren$y and others who do this. The point is that they aren't marketable mainstream wise, and haven't demonstrated an ability to make a radio track. Bronson gets radio play on Hot97 but honestly that seems more of the station making a point ("we play NY rap if it fits a certain criteria"). Strictly 4 My Jeeps didn't sound like a radio song to me, the chorus is bad and the beat is a rip off.

Dudes need to realize that people go to shows to have fun. It's easier to have a dope live song if it has a simple chorus people can chant. Roc Marci has really put himself in a box IMO because his music simply wouldn't work live. Spitta, Bronson, etc all have live shows without choruses, I'm just saying they'd be liver with big records. Think CREAM.

You nailed the point re: live shows. I would never go to a Marci show; probably not a Spitta show tbh.
 

CRS

Member
Spitta show is dope as fuck. No pun intended. The small venues/clubs are perfect since they're all fans of his and the energy is multiplied for every person rhyming along with him.
 

overcast

Member
bronson's hook game on saab stories was great
Saab was pretty great. Don't know if I like that or Chips 2 better.
Spitta show is dope as fuck. No pun intended. The small venues/clubs are perfect since they're all fans of his and the energy is multiplied for every person rhyming along with him.
This is what I assume. I figure his live does are on point actually.
What's Danny Brown's problem guys?
He can't make it huge cause of his voice/look. He can make a party hit, but for a select crowd.

None of these dudes (Action, Q, Danny, Spitta) are struggling though. On the contrary, I think all of them are eating real well. They have this in between mainstream and underground appeal that is turning out successfully.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
some 7up and Cherry Codeine make a good drink. I only did half of a finger to a full finger on the bottom, rest 7up.

but i dont fuck with it (much) anymore.
 

PlayDat

Member
What's Danny Brown's problem guys?

DISCLAIMER: I don't know shit about the music industry.

It's probably the usual "he's too ugly'weird" bullshit. My few friends who have heard of him always clown me for liking him so much. They don't view him as a "serious" rapper at all. I don't think getting his dick sucked on stage helped with is image (though it did provide plenty of free publicity). This could just be my circle of friends though.
 

Kwixotik

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I don't know why rap fans think everybody has to get #1 hits. You can carve out a niche and cater to it to make good cash while maintaining creative control. I honestly don't think Action Bronson or Danny Brown or people like that are even aiming at making mainstream hits.
 
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