CountBlack
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Cadalack Ron on some suicidal shit now? Cry for attention? Both?
please tell me thats the font you use on your twitter
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please tell me thats the font you use on your twitter
not wavy enough
CountBlack
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Just checked it out.. man what the fuck.
You didn't though, recently Kanye has been employing numerous producers to manipulate tracks though they're not always explicitly credited, but on both Yeezus and Dark Fantasy examples of this are rampant.
CountBlack
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Kanye's currently getting married ninjas. Shush
Straight psycho shit. I made the mistake of watching a couple of his other videos and it made me sick. This is why I hate guns sometimes; they give weak mentally/spiritually broke ass punks like this the ability to ruin other peoples lives with their stupid bullshit.
Discotheque
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This video is great
New kanye song is trash level. Dude took about as much time as riff raff to write and record that song I bet. It's not up to snuff with his usual, that better not make the cut for the album
Then support your opinion with examples + evidence that their contributions are significant enough to warrant production credit outright.
From all we know about Yeezus + MBDTF sessions, we don't even know what the contributions of some of the people who actually were credited are.
CountBlack
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I only saw one video of him talking in a car.. can you link me to the others?
They're all in that dude's youtube account (which i assume will be canned by the cops soon).
Serious Patrick Bateman shit.
I think Rick Rubin helped save Yeezus, but if you look at the list of collaborators on both albums it far exceeds the number of producers specifically accredited on each track
beanman25
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V-Moda M100s.
Lets keep it real though. Take a look at songwriting credits/personnel on every Ye album. Theyre not short by any means, even if Yeezus was a pretty extreme example.
Tokubetsu
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haha yo, definitely giving off them serial killer vibes.
That's not really good evidence. Songs don't make the final cut, verses don't make the final cut, sounds/manipulations don't make the final cut, and it's fairly hard to deduce what out of little fragments of stuff we get in interviews (i.e. Mike Will talking about redoing drums on Mercy), but even then everyone is very hush hush. Not deserving of credit. You want Weeknd credited on Yeezus?
Tokubetsu
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Shit look at the MBDTF credits. Pretty sure Kid Cudi and Dream worked on every single song but they're only credited on half or a third on them.
Pickles the Firecat
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I can tell you what a lot of the dudes credited on Yeezus tracks did. You can straight up hear Arca's strings and vocal edits on Hold My Liquor and I'm In It. Listen to Hold My Liquor at 2:20. Then head over and listen to Feminine. That's the easiest example, but there are tons of his sound all over the track. They're dominate elements in both songs.
I can tell you what Gessafelstein did on Send It Up. I can tell you what HudMo did on virtually every track on the album. Yeah, there are a lot of dudes that are credited or uncredited and we have no idea what their role was...but that's definitely not the case for everyone. I'm In It might as well be an Arca/Evian Christ mashup.
Kanye has been throwing producers at tracks like kitchen sinks lately and I'm not really sure how anyone could deny that. It doesn't make his work bad, it doesn't mean his music has any less merit, but you do have to put it in a different context because of it. The biggest effect its had is Yeezus had zero staying power. All of the producers he used went on and made doper shit than him within the same calendar year using the same elements they brought to Yeezus.
Bass distortion on the drums in the new track is fire...rest of the song is whatever. I think if it were thought out a little bit more I'd be okay with it.
So what about MBDTF? Still heralded as a genre classic and has produced memorable songs in Ye's career, and was ultra collaborative as we know the MBDTF sessions were way more intense than the Yeezus ones. 5000 hours for Power, right?
I don't think you can draw a reliable relationship between Kanye's degree of collaboration vs. quality or influence or derivation any other sort of musical qualities either. Especially after this whole TCD anniversary thing and we got a more in depth look at what Ye's process was like then as well w/the Revolt feature and stuff.
CountBlack
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Soulo pls
Tokubetsu
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Only a certain kinda man talk shit like that when they know a girl is involved with someone else...
richardhawk
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YO DAMN.
Syph Medwes
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Syphon Filter
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What did yall think of Phantom And The Ghost?
Super meh
XXL Editors sit down with Ebro and Rosenberg. This is a really good hip-hop conversation.
They talk about the barometer of success being low in hip-hop, implications of hip-hop getting "old" for the first time, and what that means for critics in the genre, obligations for old editors to give credence to what youth think pops, the value of the "spectacle" MCs, etc. It's just a good conversation revolving around how you go about judging who's hot and who has potential and who doesn't.
EDIT: It evolves into a pretty good Chicago/NWA conversation as well.
They talk about the barometer of success being low in hip-hop, implications of hip-hop getting "old" for the first time, and what that means for critics in the genre, obligations for old editors to give credence to what youth think pops, the value of the "spectacle" MCs, etc. It's just a good conversation revolving around how you go about judging who's hot and who has potential and who doesn't.
EDIT: It evolves into a pretty good Chicago/NWA conversation as well.
richardhawk
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Man I've been following that shooting at UCSB all day, They just raided dudes apartment and found 3 more bodies what the fuck.
PhoenixDark
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The Artful Dodger
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This is pretty good. I love frank the XXL editors are about the culture and their coverage. I'm halfway through it.
Breakfast Club Interview with Steve Rifkind. This is also fantastic. Steve Rifkind is basically a five star label exec that is responsible for signing the Wu, Mobb Deep, Big Pun, Akon etc.
This guy's stories are awesome. From Big Pun not having time to pick up a 6 figure cheque to signing Mobb Deep off of them smoking blunts in the bathroom and making the alarms go off alone.
wtf @ this guy landing on so many hip-hop legends and signing them off of instinct
This guy's stories are awesome. From Big Pun not having time to pick up a 6 figure cheque to signing Mobb Deep off of them smoking blunts in the bathroom and making the alarms go off alone.
wtf @ this guy landing on so many hip-hop legends and signing them off of instinct
Do you play Marvel Puzzle Quest BTW? I think I've gotten bodied by someone with your same handle.
The Artful Dodger
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Lol. Naw it wasn't me.
A&R's always got the best stories because they aren't afraid to air them out. Dante Ross on Juan Epstein was also brilliant.
silentcapybara
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Steve Rifkin said he had a chance to sign Jay and he raised hell to try and make it happen but BMG didn't want to, wow. He nearly had Ruff Ryders and Irv in his pocket too. He would have owned residuals for half of NY hip-hop.
This guy is unbelievable. He really is almost a cartoon character or a movie villain, it's unreal.
Tokubetsu
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"When I met him he didn't drink or smoke. By the second album he had done a LOT of acid."
-Talking about Doom from the KMD days. Don't why I found that funny.
"I don't want to talk to any backpack kid that would ever like what I did. They're super corny and got bad breathe and all that."
Complex Shadow
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nope.
cool, rosenberg puts his foot in his mouth early in this video.
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