timetokill
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True, I'm not disagreeing that it would give her some more options, but if she doesn't want to get into that I just figured it'd be worth offering up an alternative.
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GAF Indie Game Development Thread 2: High Res Work for Low Res Pay
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True, I'm not disagreeing that it would give her some more options, but if she doesn't want to get into that I just figured it'd be worth offering up an alternative.
Teaser trailer for my game. I've just put it on Steam Greenlight: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=538339111
Another less drastic option is to play around with the horizontal stretching of the torso, basically making her thinner in the middle of the animation to make it look like she is rotating a little. Depending on the animating suit, this may require messing around with stretching inheritance a little.
Sort of Gif heavy post... Working on my Left side animation (which will also hopefully work for the right.)
My 3 attempts:
2 more versions of the third gif, just changing how long some sprite frames last:
http://i.picpar.com/x9Lb.gif
http://i.picpar.com/y9Lb.gif
My 3 attempts:
2 more versions of the third gif, just changing how long some sprite frames last:
http://i.picpar.com/x9Lb.gif
http://i.picpar.com/y9Lb.gif
HidingMyThunder
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An early build of my minimalistic tile-matching puzzle game is available to anyone interested!
https://slightsuperpowers.itch.io/elaine
How long can you last?!
https://slightsuperpowers.itch.io/elaine
How long can you last?!
This looks really good. The tutorial was well done - my only complaint is the lack of controller support. Playing with the keyboard felt very clunky and unnatural.
liliththepale
Banned
Y'all are making me blush by quoting me so much!
Spine, yes. I think I should probably bite the bullet on a few more torso illustrations and maybe another one or two for the face looking in a different direction. There's no real reason I've been avoiding that, except I guess that it's easier in the short run. Your observations are really good! Thank you so much. ♥
There will definitely be enemies and characters designed around the limitations of the animation suite but this can't be one of them. Firstly because the far hand is the shield hand, and secondly because there are going to be both swinging swords and thrusting swords in the game (as well as spears, axes, daggers and hammers), so they need to look different visually.
I think you're right. I've mostly been getting by with the stiff torso in the run animation because running with a sword you wouldn't expect a lot of gyration. You can see where I'm trying to get a lot of mileage just by translating the shoulder roots, but probably some texture swaps would help.
Spine, yes. I think I should probably bite the bullet on a few more torso illustrations and maybe another one or two for the face looking in a different direction. There's no real reason I've been avoiding that, except I guess that it's easier in the short run. Your observations are really good! Thank you so much. ♥
There will definitely be enemies and characters designed around the limitations of the animation suite but this can't be one of them. Firstly because the far hand is the shield hand, and secondly because there are going to be both swinging swords and thrusting swords in the game (as well as spears, axes, daggers and hammers), so they need to look different visually.
I think you're right. I've mostly been getting by with the stiff torso in the run animation because running with a sword you wouldn't expect a lot of gyration. You can see where I'm trying to get a lot of mileage just by translating the shoulder roots, but probably some texture swaps would help.
HidingMyThunder
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Thanks! And I'll look into controller support!
P.S. You should be able to remap the key bindings within the options menu. Hopefully, this may improve the keyboard experience slightly.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Okay, SteamworksGAF, I need to know some stuff.
Visibility Rounds. What has worked best for you?
She's seeing green, folks!
Visibility Rounds. What has worked best for you?
She's seeing green, folks!
tamaster92
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Want to navigate the menu with the dpad whilst still able to move the character ingame with the analog since it doesn't pause
Jacksinthe
Banned
Animations look dope.Y'all are making me blush by quoting me so much!
Spine, yes. I think I should probably bite the bullet on a few more torso illustrations and maybe another one or two for the face looking in a different direction. There's no real reason I've been avoiding that, except I guess that it's easier in the short run. Your observations are really good! Thank you so much. ♥
There will definitely be enemies and characters designed around the limitations of the animation suite but this can't be one of them. Firstly because the far hand is the shield hand, and secondly because there are going to be both swinging swords and thrusting swords in the game (as well as spears, axes, daggers and hammers), so they need to look different visually.
I think you're right. I've mostly been getting by with the stiff torso in the run animation because running with a sword you wouldn't expect a lot of gyration. You can see where I'm trying to get a lot of mileage just by translating the shoulder roots, but probably some texture swaps would help.
Those walk and run animations are p good, tho the run one could look more energetic with a turned torso.
Remember that it is not necessary that the extra art be of the torso completely turned and showing her back; just showing it from the side will suffice.
The fade out trick should not be abused; it should only be applied for one or two frames top. Remember that the spine suite lets you animate at a precision of 30 fps, but the runtimes can go at any framerate, even higher ones, so those two frames will interpolate to 4 frames at 60fps. That's a lot. Of course maybe it will look fine to you without it and not use it, it's a design choice.
Remember that it is not necessary that the extra art be of the torso completely turned and showing her back; just showing it from the side will suffice.
The fade out trick should not be abused; it should only be applied for one or two frames top. Remember that the spine suite lets you animate at a precision of 30 fps, but the runtimes can go at any framerate, even higher ones, so those two frames will interpolate to 4 frames at 60fps. That's a lot. Of course maybe it will look fine to you without it and not use it, it's a design choice.
tamaster92
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Gotta love when you make a basic UI but you suck at art
Gotta love when you make a basic UI but you suck at art
It's very rare to excel at both programming and art so don't sweat it
.Regarding using both the left stick and d-pad simultaneously: that sounds very hardcore. I remember doing it while playing ff14 on my ps4 and it was very uncomfortable, but I like that you give players the option.
tamaster92
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Did it!
so proud
so proud
tamaster92
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Haha, awesome
In the end I had to completely cheat it - so instead of the actual UMG taking input my inputs on the player are cast to the UMG and trigger custom events. Super hacky XD
Risk Breaker
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After lots of hours making sure everything works with both 4.10 and 4.11, I've finally submitted my dialogue system for UE4 (Localizable Voices & Subtitles System for long ). Hopefully Epic checks it and releases it soon, I'll have at least one buyer!
If anyone is interested, this is the support thread: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?103503-(Multilingual)-Localizable-Voice-amp-Subtitles-System-%E2%80%93-L-V-S-S
You would be surprised at how often things like that are done It's completely fine as long as it works! And don't hesitate to ask things here in the thread (or via PM even) if you get stuck
). Hopefully Epic checks it and releases it soon, I'll have at least one buyer!If anyone is interested, this is the support thread: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?103503-(Multilingual)-Localizable-Voice-amp-Subtitles-System-%E2%80%93-L-V-S-S
You would be surprised at how often things like that are done
It's completely fine as long as it works! And don't hesitate to ask things here in the thread (or via PM even) if you get stuck 
tamaster92
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After lots of hours making sure everything works with both 4.10 and 4.11, I've finally submitted my dialogue system for UE4 (Localizable Voices & Subtitles System for long
If anyone is interested, this is the support thread: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?103503-(Multilingual)-Localizable-Voice-amp-Subtitles-System-%E2%80%93-L-V-S-S
You would be surprised at how often things like that are done
I was actually looking at that system a few days ago, it seems very cool! Glad to see someone on gaf made it
Third one is better no contest.
I also prefer the image speed in the gif you presented here, the 2 other ones feels like the character is skating.
Some more shots of my game Vivid, fighting the police was probably a bad idea.
Whoah! A mix between Swat Kats and Kite. Love it.
Alright, I removed the extra frames.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee.
I fixed the right side movement. I made the sword shorter since it looked odd being the same length despite being further back.
Risk Breaker
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Ohhh, thanks! To be honest I was feeling a bit down because it seemed to generate close to 0 interest, and I would really like other people to find it useful.
I know I suffered a lot when I first investigated how to have a viable subtitle/dialogue system in my game that:
1. Didn't need C++
2. Was compatible with localization
3. Would work with datatables
4. Didn't need any C++
The native subtitle system in UE4 is really awful imo.
The submission process is a bit confusing but I hope it'll go smoothly. I wonder if I could set up my own website-store to sell it directly to people for a cheaper price though... Not like I hate Epic or anything, but it could be nice to lower the barrier of entry for some people. It'll only be 29.99 USD, but still, indie and specially amateur budgets can be very tight
superNESjoe
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I don't suppose there's anyone in this group that uses Game Maker and develops for/has released a game on Xbox One? If so, can you shoot me a PM?
tamaster92
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Ohhh, thanks! To be honest I was feeling a bit down because it seemed to generate close to 0 interest, and I would really like other people to find it useful.
I know I suffered a lot when I first investigated how to have a viable subtitle/dialogue system in my game that:
1. Didn't need C++
2. Was compatible with localization
3. Would work with datatables
4. Didn't need any C++
The native subtitle system in UE4 is really awful imo.
The submission process is a bit confusing but I hope it'll go smoothly. I wonder if I could set up my own website-store to sell it directly to people for a cheaper price though... Not like I hate Epic or anything, but it could be nice to lower the barrier of entry for some people. It'll only be 29.99 USD, but still, indie and specially amateur budgets can be very tight
I've found a lot of people use gumroad or sellfy
Works quite well from a consumer side
I've used Tiled and it's probably the best editor I've come across for making maps, especially very large ones. I haven't used it for Unity though, but I wouldn't doubt it's probably the best solution for that.
ThePhotoshop
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Something I'm actually taking more notice of here are the eyes. In the old one, because the head rolls a little, the eyes stay stationary within the head and look like she's not actually focusing on what she's attacking. Because that happens less in the new one, it looks like she's keeping her vision focused on what she's attacking, which is great. I think it could go a little further though - keeping her iris and pupils perfectly aligned on the target, but I'm not sure if that's possible with the way you're animating.Trying to get rid of the paper doll look a little bit and improve my animation. Unfortunately there's a trade-off between smoothness, ability to go off model, and artwork investment. I have two animations below for reference. The old one (below) is using a single texture for the sword and just scaling the bone to get a little faux foreshortening going on. In the new one I have four different textures (flat, sideways, pointing nearer to the camera and pointing further away).
I think it's already an improvement over the former, but at the same time it looks kind of choppy. The only way to fix that is to illustrate more interstitial angles, but then that becomes a HUGE workload with all the weapons I have planned. (screenshot: 43 of the ~100 weapons planned here)
I suppose it's worth noting that the animation will be sped up 25% on average and even more for quicker weapons, so probably the choppiness won't be as apparent in play.
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timetokill
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Tiled is excellent. Haven't used Tiled2Unity but honestly Tiled's file format is pretty straightforward so you could probably roll your own importer if necessary.
RelentlessRolento
Member
Got a huge chunk of code out of the way today which freed me up to get started on prelim art, which is my favorite part... still tons to do, but I'm happy with how far i've gotten in two days of work.
Any tips for breaking up a body for skeletal animation? I'm using Flash for it but just trying to segment my characters accordingly
Any tips for breaking up a body for skeletal animation? I'm using Flash for it but just trying to segment my characters accordingly
Alright, I removed the extra frames.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee.
I fixed the right side movement. I made the sword shorter since it looked odd being the same length despite being further back.
Now the other directions haha
liliththepale
Banned
I'm on mobile right now so I'll check this out when I get back. The face is just a static texture with a swap for whenever she blinks, which is not shown here. I can probably do a mesh warp similar t what's used on the skirt to point her face a little bit differently than it is right now. I'll have to explore a little bit. I drew a bunch of other torso and face perspectives earlier today so I'm excited to get those implemented!
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this is the walk and run redone. There are four different angles for her face now and six for her torso, though only two and four of those are on display here.
Now the other directions haha
You mean fix or do you mean have specific sprites for going diagonal?
tamaster92
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#screenshotsaturday
Some new stuff i've done - jumping from sprinting, prayer stones (like a bonfire) and rolling. Got lots more done too but dont wanna make the gif ridiculous xD
Apologies for the framerate btw, the software didnt record very well
Some new stuff i've done - jumping from sprinting, prayer stones (like a bonfire) and rolling. Got lots more done too but dont wanna make the gif ridiculous xD
Apologies for the framerate btw, the software didnt record very well
I'm on mobile right now so I'll check this out when I get back. The face is just a static texture with a swap for whenever she blinks, which is not shown here. I can probably do a mesh warp similar t what's used on the skirt to point her face a little bit differently than it is right now. I'll have to explore a little bit. I drew a bunch of other torso and face perspectives earlier today so I'm excited to get those implemented!
edit:
this is the walk and run redone. There are four different angles for her face now and six for her torso, though only two and four of those are on display here.
To be honest I kind of like her non elf ear design a little better but that's just my opinion. The only thing I would fix with her animation is her left hand which always seems to be pointing downwards making it look kind of limp.
Tiled is awesome! Using it with a custom importer in the UE4. Importing the JSON map file is really straightforward.
Added the option to spin your destroyed ship back at enemies.
You can somewhat control it with move, then blow it early with the A button. If you detonate on top of a living player it's pretty much an instakill.
It's only active between respawns, but in last stand you stay that way once you're destroyed. We've found that remaining player start begging, bargaining and threatening to not be a target.
You can somewhat control it with move, then blow it early with the A button. If you detonate on top of a living player it's pretty much an instakill.
It's only active between respawns, but in last stand you stay that way once you're destroyed. We've found that remaining player start begging, bargaining and threatening to not be a target.
After lots of hours making sure everything works with both 4.10 and 4.11, I've finally submitted my dialogue system for UE4 (Localizable Voices & Subtitles System for long
Bookmarked, looks neat!
tamaster92
Member
I love when you get bugs like this
edit: It was funny until i found out i can't figure out how to fix it
edit: It was funny until i found out i can't figure out how to fix it
From bug to feature.
Cute Dragon Here
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I'm personally using it to make my game's maps. I still need to figure out how to get the current map's size in number of tiles, if that's even possible. Wouldn't be good to hard-code stuff. This would allow me to automatically bound the camera to the map's edge, preventing it from going "out of bounds". Do map prefabs generated with Tiled2Unity provide map size data?
Really, the hard work when using Tiled and Tiled2Unity is probably figuring out exactly how you want the layers to be set up, and automapping (if you need to use it). Outside of actually drawing the tilesets, that is.
When you walk left you got the right speed and a nice wobbling like the character actually put his feet on the ground. This is very nice. When you walk right it doesnt have the same speed since it doesn't that wobbling so it feels like you're sort of sliding on the ground. Same for walking up and walking. Basically, you should update walking right, up and down to the same same style as walking left.
tamaster92
Member
Sadly not, needs fixing but i'm utterly stuck.
Who would of thought having ragdolled dead bodies would be such an issue
I've barely begun to read through all of the material that covers it so I'm not exactly sure what it offers precisely, but OpenToonz (2D animation software, supposedly used by the likes of Studio Ghibli) is finally available:
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/index.html
Should be interesting to take a look at, if nothing else!
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/index.html
Should be interesting to take a look at, if nothing else!
Oh I see what you mean. Huh, I didn't even intend for that to happen with the left side and didn't notice it myself for some reason but I get what you mean. Hm... I'll edit my post with that.
Edit:
Hope this is what you meant.
neko.works
Member
Some more shots of my game Vivid, fighting the police was probably a bad idea.
Looks pretty cool! Do you have a website with more infos about the game?
I've been working on improving the environments for the upcoming Light Fairytale playable demo. Here's a GIF from one location I've been working on recently:
I've also implemented a new camera system where you could use the right analog stick to rotate the camera + the right analog trigger to zoom in, similarly to ICO on the PS2.
I'll probably remove the zoom in option as it breaks the camera most of the time, but the camera rotation works pretty well, and help reminds the players that the backgrounds are actually in real-time
Now that's a powerful kick
. I like the fact that it curves.Do you need the ragdoll effect for the dead body too? Otherwise you could just disable it once it's lying still, that's the approach I'm taking.
Looks pretty cool! Do you have a website with more infos about the game?
I've been working on improving the environments for the upcoming Light Fairytale playable demo. Here's a GIF from one location I've been working on recently:
I've also implemented a new camera system where you could use the right analog stick to rotate the camera + the right analog trigger to zoom in, similarly to ICO on the PS2.
I'll probably remove the zoom in option as it breaks the camera most of the time, but the camera rotation works pretty well, and help reminds the players that the backgrounds are actually in real-time
That game looks better everytime I see it. Have you mentioned what platforms you will relase for?
Looks pretty cool! Do you have a website with more infos about the game?
I've been working on improving the environments for the upcoming Light Fairytale playable demo. Here's a GIF from one location I've been working on recently:
I've also implemented a new camera system where you could use the right analog stick to rotate the camera + the right analog trigger to zoom in, similarly to ICO on the PS2.
I'll probably remove the zoom in option as it breaks the camera most of the time, but the camera rotation works pretty well, and help reminds the players that the backgrounds are actually in real-time
Thanks, and I really like look of your game too!
Sadly I don't have a website or any other info source at the moment, this is believe it or not, the first game I'm seriously trying to develop. All my previous stuff was just Mario fan games and failed concepts.
tamaster92
Member
Now that's a powerful kick
Do you need the ragdoll effect for the dead body too? Otherwise you could just disable it once it's lying still, that's the approach I'm taking.
That game looks better everytime I see it. Have you mentioned what platforms you will relase for?
Ideally I want to be able to kick the bodies around ala dark souls
If that isnt possible though i'll end up just doing a static animation.
Finally started on AI today and oh my god its hard. It's all so new...
I got my enemy following checkpoints then chasing the player but his animations for walking dont trigger and he doesnt attack or block or anything yet.
LOOOONG road ahead
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