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GAF Indie Game Development Thread 2: High Res Work for Low Res Pay
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Theanine3D
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You really sold yourself short in your original post with regard to your art skills. For an early sketch, this is great. I really like her design, can't wait to see it colored!
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Deleted member 10571
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point'n'click adventure a'la lucas arts, is what it should be
there's some color draft, again probably up to change a million times
she's wearing a matchbox backpack. I still don't have a name.
So dev on Hollow Knight is still going slowly but well - the end is coming into sight now at least. We thought it was time to release a new trailer too, so we spent some time over the weekend setting one up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
It's call the 'Hollow Knight Beneath & Beyond' trailer and this time it's a more atmospheric one, focuses on some locations and characters. It's not going to get the same traction as the previous trailer I think but it was fun to make and should let people know we're still alive (even though we've blown wayyy past all of our projected release dates hahaha)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
It's call the 'Hollow Knight Beneath & Beyond' trailer and this time it's a more atmospheric one, focuses on some locations and characters. It's not going to get the same traction as the previous trailer I think but it was fun to make and should let people know we're still alive (even though we've blown wayyy past all of our projected release dates hahaha)
Jacksinthe
Banned
Hollow Knight is BEYOND gorgeous :O
New trailer looks great!
New trailer looks great!
liliththepale
Banned
Yeah, Hollow Knight looks better and better every time, which is ridiculous because it looked phenomenal when it was first revealed. I can't wait for you guys to finish so I can play more of it 
AusRoachman
Member
Made Some hires shots of the various units in my game
New trailer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeNjcea5pME
Also, the game just went into alpha testing
If you want a test build, just PM me or sign up on the site here: http://lightspeedfrontier.com
This alpha build contains a bunch of new stuff, including a quest system, inventory system, rewards for killing baddies and completing missions, and of course just tweaking and enhancing of the who warp system. You can pull up a "map" which is really a 3D map where you point towards which wormhole you want to enter, and your ship flies through it. Complete with relativistic compression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeNjcea5pME
Also, the game just went into alpha testing
If you want a test build, just PM me or sign up on the site here: http://lightspeedfrontier.com
This alpha build contains a bunch of new stuff, including a quest system, inventory system, rewards for killing baddies and completing missions, and of course just tweaking and enhancing of the who warp system. You can pull up a "map" which is really a 3D map where you point towards which wormhole you want to enter, and your ship flies through it. Complete with relativistic compression
LordRaptor
Member
Crosspost from another thread regarding that new Unity tech demo:
...because those volumetric fog lighting effects are just lovely, and there was some discussion about this earlier in the thread
...because those volumetric fog lighting effects are just lovely, and there was some discussion about this earlier in the thread
SeanNoonan
Member
This happened. Small victories.
Funny. Volumetric fog/shadows is what I'm currently working on for my
experimental 3d low-res engine (custom implementation). Yeah, these effects
are nice and so I wanna experiment with them a bit more because they can give
some of the best visual depth cues which can enhance low-res 3d graphics
considerably. I think with proper volumetric fog/shadows one can go pretty low
in resolution with the scene still holding up tight. That's what I wanna find
out at least, i.e. how low can I go until the 3d graphics breaks down due to
lack of pixels. Stated otherwise; how good does the implementation needs to be
for a given low resolution to make the low-res 3d graphics sill stood out.
Hopefully I can show some first images soon!
So dev on Hollow Knight is still going slowly but well - the end is coming into sight now at least. We thought it was time to release a new trailer too, so we spent some time over the weekend setting one up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
It's call the 'Hollow Knight Beneath & Beyond' trailer and this time it's a more atmospheric one, focuses on some locations and characters. It's not going to get the same traction as the previous trailer I think but it was fun to make and should let people know we're still alive (even though we've blown wayyy past all of our projected release dates hahaha)
It's so beautiful! Really excited to see this finished.
So dev on Hollow Knight is still going slowly but well - the end is coming into sight now at least. We thought it was time to release a new trailer too, so we spent some time over the weekend setting one up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
Looks better every time :O.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So dev on Hollow Knight is still going slowly but well - the end is coming into sight now at least. We thought it was time to release a new trailer too, so we spent some time over the weekend setting one up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
It's call the 'Hollow Knight Beneath & Beyond' trailer and this time it's a more atmospheric one, focuses on some locations and characters. It's not going to get the same traction as the previous trailer I think but it was fun to make and should let people know we're still alive (even though we've blown wayyy past all of our projected release dates hahaha)
Your game looks too good. I need to get back to the beta.
New artwork mock:
What say you, Midnight Society?
Yeah... same here! Amazing trailer!
Jacksinthe
Banned
This happened. Small victories.
Grats, duder!
Will still check the 32-bit issue, Pehesse! Had a pile of sh!t to deal with.
Edit:
Btw; How is the game being played, actually?Made Some hires shots of the various units in my game
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Oh, thanks
Take your time! I hope it's not too problematic stuff you have to deal with. Either way, everything you did already gave me plenty to think about, and I'll rework some things in the coming weeks! Not sure it'll help with the 32bit issue, but it should help with the loading, at least :-Dliliththepale
Banned
Did the coloring for the enemy sprite. All enemies will have similar style. We'll find the best way to do that glowing effect in unity (it's photoshop here).
Now i'll have to animate it but it'll be more easy
By the way the sprite here are 1:1 scale at 1080p
Generally speaking, that kind of effect is achieved mathematically on a 3D model by calculating a given polygon's tangent to the camera angle. Thus polys at almost a right angle to the camera glow more, illuminating the edges.
To do the same thing in 2D, I think you might as well just draw it.
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Deleted member 10571
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I created a scene in which i can crudely move around my equally crude character by clicking woo
it's horrible but things are moving forward!
it's horrible but things are moving forward!
What i'd like is the screen blending. it's easy to make it directly part of the sprite of on a layer behind it, but without the blending effect, it's going to have a different effect, with less contrast and colors. I saw some tutorials for screen blending effect on internet. We're looking at it.
It's a mess if unity doesn't have that cause construct2 has direct blending option, just like photoshop for every layer for exemple..
liliththepale
Banned
Oh, I understand now. Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. Unity can do the screen blend just fine. I don't know if there's a default option, but you can write the shader for it pretty easily (or borrow someone else').
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
All you people talking about math and angles could be speaking Greek to me.
Yeah we've done the same thing. Cheap and easy and effective!
Chaos
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It's "Unity Week" for the PACKT free e-book of the day.
https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
huh which reminds me that I still have a Unity course somewhere I never really used for more than 2 episodes. Maybe I can find it still.
What software do you guys use for creating animations? I'm a bit stumped here. (For now, free or cheap would be preferrred >_>)
edit: trying to figure out animation joints and creating body parts so i can "just" try to overlay them easily to produce some kind of movement. No idea if it will work.
Prophet Steve
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DragonBones (Free)
Spriter (Pro) Free and $59
Spine $69 or $299
Spriter for me, but I don't do a whole lot of art or animation.
Got my first NPC sort of working. Although it's sort of smoke and mirrors right now. It's basic, but it shows how the dialogue with delievered. The biggest changes I hope to make is have the text be drawn by each character instead of instant. I also will have simple but more detailed animated faces in the "face" slot. Not to mention the actual text window will be made a lot nicer looking.
Also, I got controller support working! Yay... Though I'm still running into an issue with the player objects direction being reset to 0 degree's every time I stop moving, making the character standing still and looking left impossible at the moment.
ThePhotoshop
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So dev on Hollow Knight is still going slowly but well - the end is coming into sight now at least. We thought it was time to release a new trailer too, so we spent some time over the weekend setting one up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lbFP8i730
It's call the 'Hollow Knight Beneath & Beyond' trailer and this time it's a more atmospheric one, focuses on some locations and characters. It's not going to get the same traction as the previous trailer I think but it was fun to make and should let people know we're still alive (even though we've blown wayyy past all of our projected release dates hahaha)
How on earth did you guys get on Wii U??
Need some help with emissive materials. I think I might be fundamentally misunderstanding something.
I have a cube with an emissive material in a scene that is only using pre-computed real time GI:
When I try to change the color value while in play mode from editor, the following happens:
Of course, as soon as I exit play mode, the GI adjusts to the color value I set on the material earlier:
Here are the lighting settings for the scene:
And the material:
Anyone know what I'm missing?
I have a cube with an emissive material in a scene that is only using pre-computed real time GI:
![zG0SaUD.png](http://i.imgur.com/zG0SaUD.png"]http://i.imgur.com/zG0SaUD.png)
When I try to change the color value while in play mode from editor, the following happens:
Of course, as soon as I exit play mode, the GI adjusts to the color value I set on the material earlier:
Here are the lighting settings for the scene:
And the material:
Anyone know what I'm missing?
GI solution needs to be re-computed.
Perhaps you can force Unity doing so while in-game.
Looks like you have to do it using DynamicGI.SetEmissive. I attached a script component to the cube that includes this line:
But it doesn't actually seem to change the emission color on the mesh itself. Here's what it looks like right now:
Edit:
Adding this line:
Seems to have done the trick. Do I really need two separate lines to make this change? It feels like I'm missing something.
Code:
DynamicGI.SetEmissive(GetComponent<Renderer>(), Color.white);But it doesn't actually seem to change the emission color on the mesh itself. Here's what it looks like right now:
Edit:
Adding this line:
Code:
GetComponent<Renderer>().material.SetColor("_EmissionColor", Color.white);Seems to have done the trick. Do I really need two separate lines to make this change? It feels like I'm missing something.
If you want to use joint animations you have to draw the entire part of the body, not just the visible part(like you did for a leg), also can i suggest to put the front leg behind the leg on the background?
I don't use unity so i don't know if you have some specific needs but for joint animations i suggest spriter that has a good free version.
Jacksinthe
Banned
There's links for all 3 in the OP
Was in midpost when you edited in the soultion
, but you're not missing anything, that's how you do it edit: Aside from maybe caching the material so you don't get the renderer component every time but, depends how often you do it for it to be worthwhile.
Was in midpost when you edited in the soultion
Good to know. Thanks!
Interesting. I'll have to look into this.
GetComponent is just a bit expensive (time and can generate a bit of garbage), so you tend to call it once and store it when Awake/Start is called etc so you don't keep calling it. Or you can just set it as a field in the editor.
One thing to note, when you call material for the first time, Unity will create a new instance from the original meaning that any changes to this material does not affect other materials that share the same original material. Any call to that material from that specific renderer will now be that instanced material, you can see it in the editor as if you inspect that object the material will now be "name (instanced)" or something.
You can change the original material rather than instancing it by using the Renderer.sharedMaterial property, which will automatically propagate the change to all renderers using that material. I think the material changes are kept even after you exit play mode though, so if you use that you're most likely going to need to reset the shared material to its starting values whenever you enter a scene that uses them.
Instancing materials by not using Renderer.sharedMaterial will often prove expensive because doing it for each object will eventually result in N unique materials, lowering performance by a fair bit depending on how large of a value N is.
I'll take the last-post-of-the-50ppp-hit for y'all and post this latest tidbit of progress:
142 more frames to color, and I'll be done with animation for the WHOLE GAME!
(and if you're not browing this thread at 50ppp, you're a braver man than I! Loading that many posts is already enough to bring firefox to its knees!)
142 more frames to color, and I'll be done with animation for the WHOLE GAME!
(and if you're not browing this thread at 50ppp, you're a braver man than I! Loading that many posts is already enough to bring firefox to its knees!)
The thing about sharedMaterial(s) in the way I understand it, is that it is more ideal for editor scripts due to (as you stated) changes to the material in the project itself. Part of this is because when material(s) is called from an editor script, you get a warning about potential memory leaks as the editor is not keeping track of the new instances.
The documentation also says:
If you want to do as you suggested and minimise N, then just have one instanced material and assign it to the other renderers material so they all share the same instaned material. Mind you this is also a little more work and you're also in control of said material so it's also your responsibility to destroy it in some circumstances, but it would also avoid the project changes that could happen after with sharedMaterial(s).
But this also extends from not that clear documentation and Unity just being weird in general.
Yeah, a middleman material manager would probably be the best bet, but then you're transitioning into singletons, which tend to overcomplicate things and lead to hard-to-track bugs unless used with extreme care.
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